Swedish ISP Bahnhof releases free anonymity-service to battle the Data Retention Directive - Polidicks

[img]http://www.sweclockers.com/image/red/2014/11/17/LEX-Integrity-Plan-B-Bahnhof.jpg?t=articleFull&k=fed106bb[/img] [I]"Plan B is here: LEX Integrity Free VPN-service for all of Bahnhof's clients "[/I] [B]After the injunction by the Swedish Post and Telecom Agency, the Swedish ISP Bahnhof will begin storing logs of their clients Internet activities next week. On the same day, all of their clients will also gain access to a free VPN-service, which will "Make the logs useless".[/B] Backstory from [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1433684&highlight="]the last thread[/URL]: [quote] The Swedish ISP Bahnhof will have to begin storing their client's traffic-data by the 24th of November, or they'll receive a five million SEK (689893 USD) fine. Bahnhof themselves have said that they will appeal against the decision. Earlier this spring, the EU-court rejected the Swedish Data Retention Directive, on the grounds that it is not consistent with the human rights provisions. This lead to most Swedish ISP's ceasing their traffic logging operations, despite the fact that traffic data storing is still included in the Swedish legislation. However, most operators resumed the logging after getting pressured by the Swedish Post and Telecom Agency (PTA). The ISP Bahnhof has chosen to ignore PTA's orders, in order to maintain a high profile in privacy related issues, going as far as reporting themselves to the authorities, with the goal of getting the Swedish law proceedings on trial. The laws have now been tested by the Stockholm Administrative Law, who on the 13th of October decided that the Swedish rules remain unchanged. This means that ISP's will continue to be obliged to store logs of their client's traffic for (at least) six months. The logs are meant to be used for law-enforcement purposes. As a result, Bahnhof will have to resume logging traffic by the 24th of November, and if they do not comply, they'll receive a five million SEK fine. "Unfortunately, we are not surprised by this. Of course we'll appeal against their decision, but at the same time we also have a plan B to protect our clients from the mass-surveillance. We'll reveal the details later, but I feel calm about this" - The CEO of Bahnhof, Jon Karlung. [/quote] [quote] Now Bahnhof's chief of communications, Jan Jordås, says that their patience is running thin, due to the fact that the verdict hasn't gotten any attention from the previous government, nor the new one. Thus, after they've been forced to choose between keeping logs of their client's traffic, or receiving penalties, they've now decided to start logging their clients traffic on the 24th of this month. But at the same time, they'll also apply their "Plan B". "The EU court has given a ruling that the previous government chose to ignore, and the current government has remained silent for so long that we've lost our patience. Now Bahnhof has decided to stand above all this, and resolve the situation in a responsible manner. Namely by solving the entire problem completely. We'll begin storing traffic-logs, but at the exact same time, we'll render those logs useless." On the 24th of November, all of Bahnhof's clients will gain access to the VPN-Service "LEX Integrity" for free. This will conceal the IP addresses of their clients, and while all traffic will still be logged, it will be impossible to make out which traffic belongs to which client, practically rendering the logs "useless". [/quote] Source: [url]http://www.sweclockers.com/nyhet/19637-bahnhof-slapper-gratis-anonymiseringstjanst-i-protest-mot-datalagring[/url]

bork

And here in our america most of our ISPs support the government's bullshit. Good on bahnhof

I couldn't think of a bigger 'fuck you' to send to the Swedish government even if I tried.

[QUOTE=Map in a box;46513458]bork[/QUOTE] skwerl [video=youtube;Vt4Dfa4fOEY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt4Dfa4fOEY[/video]

[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;46513456]Can I have some of that too as well. [editline]18th November 2014[/editline] I want a free VPN.[/QUOTE] Pick one: fiber, or free VPN.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;46513500]And here in our america most of our ISPs support the government's bullshit. Good on bahnhof[/QUOTE] well you know, they [I]do[/I] like to shaft the average consumer, so doing something that harms them and makes the ISP money is a win-win for them

[QUOTE=wickedplayer494;46513922]Pick one: fiber, or free VPN.[/QUOTE] VPNs are pretty cheap tho. They can be had for like 30$ a year

[QUOTE=wickedplayer494;46513922]Pick one: fiber, or free VPN.[/QUOTE] Bahnhof has both.

Some how give these people enough money to buy comcast, so they can fix it to not be shit.

PTA continues to be PiTA.

Give it a month before they're back in court. As much as people love the idea of a company using a legal loophole to stick it to the government, the Swedish government is just going to tell them that providing junk logs is non-compliant. Sounds like they're trying to buy time in the hopes that public pressure will force the law to be overturned.

I keep thinking the bad guys here are the parent teacher association.

[QUOTE=catbarf;46515571]Give it a month before they're back in court. As much as people love the idea of a company using a legal loophole to stick it to the government, the Swedish government is just going to tell them that providing junk logs is non-compliant. Sounds like they're trying to buy time in the hopes that public pressure will force the law to be overturned.[/QUOTE] Yeah, they're trying to gain attention from our new government, I'd assume

[QUOTE=catbarf;46515571]Give it a month before they're back in court. As much as people love the idea of a company using a legal loophole to stick it to the government, the Swedish government is just going to tell them that providing junk logs is non-compliant. Sounds like they're trying to buy time in the hopes that public pressure will force the law to be overturned.[/QUOTE] Providing junk logs was their previous effort. Their new one is giving VPN credentials (which is technically a different product and apparently not subject to data retention law) to all customers (though that doesn't mean everyone will use it).

[QUOTE=catbarf;46515571]Give it a month before they're back in court. As much as people love the idea of a company using a legal loophole to stick it to the government, the Swedish government is just going to tell them that providing junk logs is non-compliant. Sounds like they're trying to buy time in the hopes that public pressure will force the law to be overturned.[/QUOTE] Problem with that is is that they have no control over weather or not someone uses the VPN

And here I am, stuck with Telia.

[QUOTE=freaka;46518383]And here I am, stuck with Telia.[/QUOTE] Telia is shit. Every ten minutes my connection slows down to the point where I might aswell send a proper letter to the person I'm currently chatting with. Can't use Bahnhof where I live. :(

[QUOTE=VikCreamCake;46519257]Telia is shit. Every ten minutes my connection slows down to the point where I might aswell send a proper letter to the person I'm currently chatting with. Can't use Bahnhof where I live. :([/QUOTE] I dont have that problem, my shit crashes every 4th hour instead. I'm seriously considering calling Aftonbladet and tell them about this. Maybe that will fix my fucking 2 year constant problem.

[QUOTE=freaka;46519282]I dont have that problem, my shit crashes every 4th hour instead. I'm seriously considering calling Aftonbladet and tell them about this. Maybe that will fix my fucking 2 year constant problem.[/QUOTE] have you tried calling telia first

[QUOTE=DrTaxi;46520615]have you tried calling telia first[/QUOTE] Yeah 3 times already, but they keep sending me this shitty thompson modem that is completely worthless, and is the whole reason I have this problem. Their technical support is equaliant if not WORSE than Steam Support, so Im not wasting my time to call them just to hear the regular answer: " well herp derp mybe it will get fixed if we send new modem?"

[QUOTE=freaka;46520799]Yeah 3 times already, but they keep sending me this shitty thompson modem that is completely worthless, and is the whole reason I have this problem. Their technical support is equaliant if not WORSE than Steam Support, so Im not wasting my time to call them just to hear the regular answer: " well herp derp mybe it will get fixed if we send new modem?"[/QUOTE] Oh my god yes, those fucking Thompson modems. Their connections are generally pretty good, it's the modems that fucks it all up. I've no idea why they keep using them for their ADSL connections. A friend of mine has to restart his modem once every four hours or so, because it just randomly drops it's entire DHCP table

What bothers me most is how the Swedish government decided to pressure ISP's into following their law even after a European Court decided it infringes human rights.

I love you Bahnhof even if I am not one of your customers, keep up fighting for what's right.

[QUOTE=freaka;46520799]Yeah 3 times already, but they keep sending me this shitty thompson modem that is completely worthless, and is the whole reason I have this problem. Their technical support is equaliant if not WORSE than Steam Support, so Im not wasting my time to call them just to hear the regular answer: " well herp derp mybe it will get fixed if we send new modem?"[/QUOTE] Are you forced to use it, or can you input connection/authentication details in a modem of your own and use that instead? I'm only aware of cable providers forcing people to use ISP-provided modems, personally.

[QUOTE=DrTaxi;46523217]Are you forced to use it, or can you input connection/authentication details in a modem of your own and use that instead? I'm only aware of cable providers forcing people to use ISP-provided modems, personally.[/QUOTE] Yeah, you have to use those modems in particular. Any other maker/model, and you won't be able to establish a connection to their equipment

[QUOTE=Rixxz2;46515737]Yeah, they're trying to gain attention from our new government, I'd assume[/QUOTE] Whether or not the latest social democrat / green government directs interest into the issue, it's quite uncertain whether Löfven will have enough guts to go ahead with repealing the legislation. Those consisting of the Alliance would set up arbitrary measures to force Bahnhof to comply and appease the intelligence agencies. I think a lot of support against repealing the legislation would come from the Säpo, noting that over-arching data retention is a part of national security.