Harrow offers primary schools option to serve halal-only meat - Polidicks

[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-10884787[/url] [quote][B]A north London council is offering its primary schools the chance to serve only halal meat on its menus.[/B] Nine Harrow secondary schools already provide pupils with meat prepared according to Islamic law in a scheme that has been running for two years. Harrow Council said it had received "no complaints" about serving halal-only meat, with vegetarian and fish options. Now 52 primary schools in the area will have the option of taking part in the same programme. Harrow councillor Brian Gate said it would be the choice of individual schools as to whether or not they chose to use catering firm Harrison Catering Services, which serves halal-only meat. "The decision about whether to use an individual provider is for schools to make, as the funding is delegated to them," Councillor Gate said. Halal is meat from animals that have been slaughtered in accordance with Sharia law. [B]Idea welcomed[/B] Masood Khawaja, president of the Halal Food Authority (HFA), said he welcomed the move but stressed that pupils should not be forced to eat halal meat. "It's commendable for any local authority to introduce halal meals for Muslim students and pupils, but we also say that it should be properly labelled," he said. "Non-Muslims should have a choice as well." The Muslim Council of Britain said parents who wanted their children to eat halal meat "should be given the freedom and choice to do so". "Local authorities are under a duty to facilitate this," a spokesman said. "Those who do not wish to consume halal should similarly be afforded the freedom and choice." A council spokeswoman said two primary schools had already decided to go with the Harrison Catering Services contract and give halal-only meat to their pupils. In a statement, Harrison Catering Services said it could not comment on individual contracts. [/quote] Want sausages? Nope, sorry, don't want to upset the Muslims. Want meat that's not come from animals that have had their throat's slit without being stunned? Sorry, don't have any, don't want to upset the Muslims. Have some rabbit food. Typical of fucking Southerners.

I try to be tolerant of religion but I really hate it when it affects diet. You become a detriment when you add restrictions to what you can and cannot eat.

It's bad enough to be insensitive, but oversensitivity can be just as bad. It'd be good to have the option, but not a complete overhaul that replaces it. The whole world shouldn't change because of one imaginary concept. Halal's a strange and illogical concept anyways. I just don't get the purpose and point of it all. I mean, what's the point of the Dhabia ritual slaughter anyways? Slitting the throat of an animal doesn't do anything to alter the meat, it doesn't infuse it with divine energies or anything, it doesn't make it any easier to digest, it doesn't garner any sort of divine favour, so what's the point of sticking to one form of slaughter? Although haraam's got at least one good point about not eating carrion, but the sensibility of that is completely nullified by the fact the animal has to be slaughtered in the name of an imaginary entity, kinda ridiculous since it doesn't have ANY effect on the quality of the meat. It's so silly and impractical, and yet the practice has survived for millennia... It's rather picky, and pickiness can lead to scarcity.

i always knew the British were ass kissers

[QUOTE] * pork or pork by products * animals that were dead prior to slaughtering * animals not slaughtered properly or not slaughtered in the name of Allah * blood and blood by products * alcohol * carnivorous animals * birds of prey * land animals without external ears[/QUOTE] This is what could not be consumed by a Muslim. Sounds like you guys are over reacting, the only thing this could possibly affect is no pork in schools and they could just as easily bullshit about how the animals were slaughtered. Plus pork at school is a bad idea in the first place

[QUOTE=Perfumly;23918660]This is what could not be consumed by a Muslim. Sounds like you guys are over reacting, the only thing this could possibly affect is no pork in schools and they could just as easily bullshit about how the animals were slaughtered. Plus pork at school is a bad idea in the first place[/QUOTE] It is still a detriment to have everyone's diets dictated by someone else. There is no gray area as to freedoms.

[QUOTE=Perfumly;23918660] Plus pork at school is a bad idea in the first place[/QUOTE] Why? Besides, animals slaughtered in the name of Allah get all stringy

[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;23918688]Why? [/QUOTE] Because (at least at my school) it's fucking disgusting

[QUOTE=Perfumly;23918660]This is what could not be consumed by a Muslim. Sounds like you guys are over reacting, the only thing this could possibly affect is no pork in schools and they could just as easily bullshit about how the animals were slaughtered. Plus pork at school is a bad idea in the first place[/QUOTE] * animals not slaughtered properly or not slaughtered in the name of Allah Technically they won't be able to eat any meat since the meat that comes to schools is pre-processed without any islamic rituals Sux for muslims

[QUOTE=Carbon Knight;23918681]It is still a detriment to have everyone's diets dictated by someone else. There is no gray area as to freedoms.[/QUOTE] Durr they are affecting my diet by not serving pork hurr durr

[QUOTE=Perfumly;23918699]Because (at least at my school) it's fucking disgusting[/QUOTE] I like when people dictate what should be eaten and shouldn't based on personal opinion. It's quite telling.

[QUOTE=Perfumly;23918699]Because (at least at my school) it's fucking disgusting[/QUOTE] "There's very little meat in these gym mats!" That's not really a basis for saying that all schools should avoid serving it.

[quote]Masood Khawaja, [b]president of the Halal Food Authority[/b] (HFA), said he welcomed the move but stressed that pupils should not be forced to eat halal meat. "It's commendable for any local authority to introduce halal meals for Muslim students and pupils, but we also say that it should be properly labelled," he said. "Non-Muslims should have a choice as well." The Muslim Council of Britain said parents who wanted their children to eat halal meat "should be given the freedom and choice to do so".[/quote]There's nothing wrong with this.

[QUOTE=Carbon Knight;23918713]I like when people dictate what should be eaten and shouldn't based on personal opinion. It's quite telling.[/QUOTE] So, tell me, how is not eating pork maybe the once a month or so that it's served at your school going to adversely affect your diet? Do you even diet healthily in the first place? I highly doubt it.

[QUOTE=Perfumly;23918735]So, tell me, how is not eating pork maybe the once a month or so that it's served at your school going to adversely affect your diet? Do you even diet healthily in the first place? I highly doubt it.[/QUOTE] It's not benefit or detriment to diet, It's about freedom of diet. You're little quip at the end only undermines your point.

[QUOTE=Perfumly;23918735]So, tell me, how is not eating pork maybe the once a month or so that it's served at your school going to adversely affect your diet? Do you even diet healthily in the first place? I highly doubt it.[/QUOTE] I think it's an issue of principle rather than a specific lack of pork

why are you bitching about this OP it's no different from serving kosher food for the jewish children

[QUOTE=Carbon Knight;23918751]It's not benefit or detriment to diet, It's about freedom of diet. You're little quip at the end only undermines your point.[/QUOTE] Freedom of diet? So schools should be allowed to serve any food no matter what? Bring your own lunch. Don't get me wrong here I believe that people should have a choice between halal meat and not halal meat but you guys are getting way too worked up.

[QUOTE=wonkadonk;23918771]why are you bitching about this OP it's no different from serving kosher food for the jewish children[/QUOTE] Except I don't know of any school that serves only kosher food.

[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;23918752]I think it's an issue of principle rather than a specific lack of pork[/QUOTE] but my diet zeke my diet

[QUOTE=Perfumly;23918791]but my diet zeke my diet[/QUOTE] Still you do not understand the idea of free choice.

[QUOTE=Perfumly;23918791]but my diet zeke my diet[/QUOTE] I never mentioned diet, that was other people who missed the point.

Stupid, but not that big of a deal. Besides, it's totally voluntary, so the schools can (and probably will) say no to it. Now if it were mandatory, that would be a bigger issue, but as it is... meh.

[quote]Masood Khawaja, [b]president of the Halal Food Authority[/b] (HFA), said he welcomed the move but stressed that pupils should not be forced to eat halal meat. "It's commendable for any local authority to introduce halal meals for Muslim students and pupils, but we also say that it should be properly labelled," he said. "Non-Muslims should have a choice as well." The Muslim Council of Britain said parents who wanted their children to eat halal meat "should be given the freedom and choice to do so".[/quote]There's nothing wrong with this.

[QUOTE=Carbon Knight;23918826]Still you do not understand the idea of free choice.[/QUOTE] Free choice of what? There's tons of food that's already not served at school. All I can get out of what you're saying is that you want all foods to be available for schools to serve regardless of nutrition.

To protest this i suggest submerging your children in pigs blood before sending them to school and tell them to hug the all islamist children

[QUOTE=Perfumly;23918875]Free choice of what? There's tons of food that's already not served at school. All I can get out of what you're saying is that you want all foods to be available for schools to serve regardless of nutrition.[/QUOTE] This has nothing to do with nutrition, it's about a public institution endorsing one religion over another.

[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;23918985]This has nothing to do with nutrition, it's about a public institution given the choice of (which will most likely never happen to any primary schools anyway) endorsing one religion over another.[/QUOTE] Fixed that for you

[QUOTE=Perfumly;23918875]Free choice of what? There's tons of food that's already not served at school. All I can get out of what you're saying is that you want all foods to be available for schools to serve regardless of nutrition.[/QUOTE] Hey maybe also we can ban PE because someone could get hurt. And then we should ban maths because it's unfair to the dim kids. After that we'll ban English because my mate Darren reckons that English was the language of the slave trade and as a eco-conscious liberal with a friend with a black friend he finds the English language offensive.

[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;23919050]Hey maybe also we can ban PE because someone could get hurt. And then we should ban maths because it's unfair to the dim kids. After that we'll ban English because my mate Darren reckons that English was the language of the slave trade and as a eco-conscious liberal with a friend with a black friend he finds the English language offensive.[/QUOTE] nice strawmen