• Federal judge says Sessions can't withhold grant money from sanctuary cities
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[quote]CHICAGO -- Attorney General Jeff Sessions can't follow through - at least for now - with his threat to withhold public safety grant money to Chicago and other so-called sanctuary cities for refusing to impose new tough immigration policies, a judge ruled Friday in a legal defeat for the Trump administration. In what is at least a temporary victory for cities that have defied Sessions, U.S. District Judge Harry Leinenweber ruled that the Justice Department could not impose the requirements. [/quote] [url]http://abc7.com/2420937/[/url]
get fucked
suck a dick you hobgoblin, fucking with sanctuary cities is straight up disney villain.
And things were going so well for this administration, a shame.
[QUOTE=New_Pride;52686330]And things were going so well for this administration, a shame.[/QUOTE] I don't know man, seems like their goal is to fuck up as much as possible while lining the pockets of the already rich, which they're actually succeeding at.
I take it those are federal funds? I would want them to follow federal rules, if they get federal funds. Imagine if Chicago was doing something "anti-progressive" instead and this ruling would have been passed, most likely I wouldn't see it being met with joy. It's the principle that should be upholded and they should do what they can to change the rule instead of going into some sort of rebellion mode.
[QUOTE=Omesh;52686956]I take it those are federal funds? I would want them to follow federal rules, if they get federal funds. Imagine if Chicago was doing something "anti-progressive" instead and this ruling would have been passed, most likely I wouldn't see it being met with joy. It's the principle that should be upholded and they should do what they can to change the rule instead of going into some sort of rebellion mode.[/QUOTE] what sessions and republicans want to do is compel use of state resources for investigation and enforcement of federal law without compensation. the grant funds meanwhile have been earmarked by congress with specific clauses attached to them, the executive branch can't on a whim, add more clauses to those funds because that would be making law. [editline]16th September 2017[/editline] what's more, if an individual is arrested for a crime and found to be an illegal alien, they aren't suddenly released from jail like Sessions and many republicans are trying to imply, they are processed and tried for the crime, and if found guilty, put in jail. There's no magical get-out-of-jail-free card for being an illegal alien, but local police in so called sanctuary cities are being instructed by their local governments not to hold onto people longer than they legally can if they aren't being charged with a crime even if they cannot prove their citizenship. this is where sessions and republican by large, want local law enforcement to use up their resources to hold onto these people beyond what they can reasonably do, so ICE can prove they're illegal, meanwhile local police are stuck footing the bill for incarceration, as well as possible legal repercussions for holding someone longer than they can without charging them with a crime.
[QUOTE=Omesh;52686956]I take it those are federal funds? I would want them to follow federal rules, if they get federal funds. Imagine if Chicago was doing something "anti-progressive" instead and this ruling would have been passed, most likely I wouldn't see it being met with joy. It's the principle that should be upholded and they should do what they can to change the rule instead of going into some sort of rebellion mode.[/QUOTE] If they were doing something that hurt people then I very much doubt that the judge would've ruled in their favor, however, sanctuary cities do nothing but help.
[QUOTE=Sableye;52687001]what sessions and republicans want to do is compel use of state resources for investigation and enforcement of federal law without compensation. the grant funds meanwhile have been earmarked by congress with specific clauses attached to them, the executive branch can't on a whim, add more clauses to those funds because that would be making law. [editline]16th September 2017[/editline] what's more, if an individual is arrested for a crime and found to be an illegal alien, they aren't suddenly released from jail like Sessions and many republicans are trying to imply, they are processed and tried for the crime, and if found guilty, put in jail. There's no magical get-out-of-jail-free card for being an illegal alien, but local police in so called sanctuary cities are being instructed by their local governments not to hold onto people longer than they legally can if they aren't being charged with a crime even if they cannot prove their citizenship. this is where sessions and republican by large, want local law enforcement to use up their resources to hold onto these people beyond what they can reasonably do, so ICE can prove they're illegal, meanwhile local police are stuck footing the bill for incarceration, as well as possible legal repercussions for holding someone longer than they can without charging them with a crime.[/QUOTE] Good explanation - a classic example of the federal government using legislation to incentivize states to change local legislation is how federal highway funding was tied to a nationally standardized drinking age. That was a Congressional action - legislative. What Sessions is trying to do is basically the same, rescinding critical funding to cities to push them towards accepting a federal standard. Except he's not a legislator - he can't do that.
To add to Isak's post, Congress wields the power to define budgets and allocate money to things -- this is a power granted specifically to the legislative arm. Sessions' attempt to have the Justice Department decide funding to sanctuary cities is, dun dun dun, [B]executive overreach[/B]. You know, that thing Republicans accused Obama of every second breath for eight years? And the funny thing is that Republicans control Congress but they're still trying to do it through the wrong channels.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;52688084]To add to Isak's post, Congress wields the power to define budgets and allocate money to things -- this is a power granted specifically to the legislative arm. Sessions' attempt to have the Justice Department decide funding to sanctuary cities is, dun dun dun, [B]executive overreach[/B]. You know, that thing Republicans accused Obama of every second breath for eight years? And the funny thing is that Republicans control Congress but they're still trying to do it through the wrong channels.[/QUOTE] that would require congressmen to take very painful votes on something they aren't sure would pay off. the GOP only exists to get elected over and over again, not actually work as that would create fodder against them. the reason why the tea party was so successful to begin with was that most of them had no prior government experience and thus could rode the high horse, the reason why many of the tea party class has retired though is they now do have a record to run against
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