Declassified Documents Show Bush Administration Looked For Excuse To Start War In Iraq - Polidicks

[QUOTE]The Bush administration has long maintained they had not decided to invade Iraq until the days before it actually began and that they did “everything” they could to “avoid war in Iraq.” President Bush even claimed that the “American people can know that every measure has been taken to avoid war.” Yet there is evidence that the Bush administration, from its very early days, was actively plotting to go to war with the Arab country. From a British memo that noted that [b]“Bush made it clear the US intended to invade whether or not there was a second resolution and even if UN inspectors found no evidence of a banned Iraqi weapons programme”[/b] to memoirs by administration members Richard Clarke and Paul O’Neill, there have been numerous disclosures that strongly suggest that the Bush administration was plotting a war against Iraq while recognizing it was not a threat to the United States. Now, with the help of a Freedom of Information Act request, the National Security Archive has obtained a newly declassified document that details talking points that emerged from a meeting between Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and CENTCOM Commander General Tommy Franks in November 2001. The talking points mainly revolve around the logistical planning for a war in Iraq. They detail the “decapitation” of the Iraqi government by U.S. forces and make regime change the goal. Interestingly, they already mention U.S. forces “coming out of Afghanistan” to join the invasion of Iraq. [b]Yet the most alarming part of the document is a bullet point titled, “How start?” (which is a discussion that actually appears after the planning of the entire war). The participants in the Rumsfeld-Frank meeting discussed possible ways to provoke a conflict with Iraq, including an attack by Saddam Hussein against the Kurdish north, the U.S. discovering a “Saddam connection” to 9/11 or the anthrax attacks, or a dispute over WMD inspections. It appears from the language of the talking points that the Bush administration had already decided to go to war with Iraq and was looking for an opportunity to invade.[/b] Another document obtained by the National Security Archive shows that the Bush State Department’s Bureau of Intelligence and Research created an assessment of international support for a war against Iraq in December 2001. It noted that the “UK’s Blair would publicly support a US decision to bomb Iraq but would face considerable criticism.” It worried that going to war in Iraq could “bring radicalization of British Muslims, the great majority whom opposed the September 11 attacks but are increasingly restive about what they see as an anti-Islamic campaign.” These fears appear to have been prescient, as in July 2005 British Muslim extremists apparently radicalized by the war in Iraq detonated bombs throughout London.[/QUOTE] My own emphasis added. Please read the article before making a comment on it. source: [url]http://thinkprogress.org/2010/09/23/documents-bush-iraq-november/[/url] [IMG]http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/rumsfeld2.jpg[/IMG] Picture of the declassified document referenced in the article.

so it was true :v:

Have a clock

who is surprised. Cause I'm not. Fucking pricks deserve to rot in prison.

inb4 anyone claims thinkprogress is biased

um it's pretty obvious we didn't go into Iraq because of 9/11, and that other profitable ideas were circulating

inb4 9/11 conspiracies.

Well, isn't this a surprise. I didn't see that coming.

Bush dun goofed.

[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;25007986]inb4 9/11 conspiracies.[/QUOTE] this isn't about 9/11 conspiracies

[QUOTE=PulpedFiction;25008009]Well, isn't this a surprise. I didn't see that coming.[/QUOTE] Isn't this post... oxymoronic?

Everyone involved needs to be charged.

While the document is new, the fact that this was how it happened really isn't news at all. It's quite well known that they were just looking for excuses to do it.

[QUOTE=JerryK;25008032]this isn't about 9/11 conspiracies[/QUOTE] Nope, but someone can spawn one with ease. If these documents show the bush administration to start a war in iraq, who is to say 9/11 was a factor in this?

[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;25008072]Everyone involved needs to be charged.[/QUOTE] This needs to happen, but no one will do it because anyone who can charge people is in a position where they could be removed/voted out of the position they're in. Unless the attorney general does something about this, or the ICJ does it, for the US, no one is going to be charged.

[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;25008072]Everyone involved needs to be charged.[/QUOTE] Bush did what he could, so he could deal with dem Muslim commies.

[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;25008072]Everyone involved needs to be charged.[/QUOTE] Agreed. This CLEARLY shows the US Government was involved in someway. I say charge them all or get a fucking investigation going.

What they did was bad, but what Saddam did was much worse.

[QUOTE=R3mix;25008202]Agreed. This CLEARLY shows the US Government was involved in someway. I say charge them all or get a fucking investigation going.[/QUOTE] Not going to happen sadly. [QUOTE=Uberman77883;25008207]What they did was bad, but what Saddam did was much worse.[/QUOTE] The first month of the war was dealing with Saddam, the rest was not.

[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;25008141]Nope, but someone can spawn one with ease.[/QUOTE] and... BAM [QUOTE=R3mix;25008202]Agreed. This CLEARLY shows the US Government was involved in someway. I say charge them all or get a fucking investigation going.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;25008072]Everyone involved needs to be charged.[/QUOTE] please tell me - what difference this will make It's like apologizing to somebody 9 years after you cut their arms off and then raped them

[QUOTE=Uberman77883;25008207]What they did was bad, but what Saddam did was much worse.[/QUOTE] That doesn't absolve them of anything.

No shit. Some many years ago America was cooperating with Iraq, then years later they invade it.

[QUOTE=Uberman77883;25008207]What they did was bad, but what Saddam did was much worse.[/QUOTE] What he did was worse at first; but honestly in the time period after we invaded, Saddam would have killed a lot less people than died as a result of the conflict in Iraq.

[QUOTE=Armotekma;25008275]please tell me - what difference this will make It's like apologizing to somebody 9 years after you cut their arms off and then raped them[/QUOTE] There was a Nazi found hiding in America after WWII, he was charged and executed at the age of around 80-90. If I can find the link, I will link you, he was not forgiven for his war crimes. This is beyond war crimes.

How come something this "big" isn't on any mainstream media sources?

They typed it exactly like George spoke, "How start?" "What do?"

[QUOTE=Jim_Riley;25008338]How come something this "big" isn't on any mainstream media sources?[/QUOTE] Because it's not exactly news. Everyone knows they had ulterior motives, this is just black and white evidence of the fact.

Holy shit. I mean, it was expected, but I never thought that bush was THAT malevolent.

Protection of Oil interests in the Middle-East. No 'WMD' found, Congress didn't even permit the invasion, neither did the UN.