So, what, Obama supporters are vicious muslim extremists? Didn't know Obama was a fundamentalist Islam leader.
What kind of sensationalist bullshit is that? What kind of connection are those "TheUnitedWest" guys suggesting here?
So a load of Christian Fundis go to a Muslim festival with megaphones preaching god is good not Allah and wonder why people kick off...
That was sort of fascinating.
Yea, ok, and now let's see what would happen if a couple of islamists went to a catholic gathering holding up signs saying "Allah is true, god is a lie".
Regardless of how obnoxious the guys with the signs are being, I have to be on their side.
You don't assault someone for expressing an opinion or belief in public.
I watched this with a smile on my face. These bigots went there to be religiously offensive and to cause trouble, they get trouble then act like they are some persecuted group.
What do you think would happen if a Muslim group went holding signs about how evil Christians are at a christian festival?
These guys don't seem to know shit about the religion they are protesting...
Anyway, I'm an atheist so I disagree with both side's beliefs but these guys are fucking stupid. They get what they go there to get and then bitch about it and act like the cops are supposed to arrest either the entire crowd or children.
[QUOTE=bilo;36514382]Yea, ok, and now let's see what would happen if a couple of islamists went to a catholic gathering holding up signs saying "Allah is true, god is a lie".[/QUOTE]
If bottles got thrown at them it would be "OMG RACISM WHITE PEOPLE ARE EVIL LIKE THIS IF YOU LOVE DIVERSITY"}
I'm probably going to get dumb's too all hell breaks loose.
I understand why they would get upset, with Christian's going in with huge signs to a festival.
The way that the crowd acted, is just portraying the average intelligence of both these sides of religious coo-coo's.
Rocks? Bottles? Eggs? That's a bit of a over reaction to what the Christians were doing.
If this is all happening in the past few years, I can't wait to see what the future looks like.
i'd imagine there's more than one side to this video. they probably cut out all the parts where the christians acted like massive assholes, but this is simply justification that religion has no place in modern society.
What nice kids
Okay the kids are awful, but the christian group needs to leave as well.
I don't know, both sides are pretty dumb but it felt satisfying seeing the retarded fundys get shit thrown at them.
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[people injured]
[property damaged]
"oh my gosh"
They're all dumb
Doesn't give the Muslims right to throw stuff at them.
[QUOTE=Hunta;36514390]I watched this with a smile on my face. These bigots went there to be religiously offensive and to cause trouble, they get trouble then act like they are some persecuted group.
What do you think would happen if a Muslim group went holding signs about how evil Christians are at a christian festival?
These guys don't seem to know shit about the religion they are protesting...
Anyway, I'm an atheist so I disagree with both side's beliefs but these guys are fucking stupid. They get what they go there to get and then bitch about it and act like the cops are supposed to arrest either the entire crowd or children.[/QUOTE]
Last time muslims caused a problem with (what they thought was an attack on) Christians it was 911
So...
this kind of violence is entirely unnecessary, no matter how obnoxious these people were being
[QUOTE=Bobie;36514910]i'd imagine there's more than one side to this video. they probably cut out all the parts where the christians acted like massive assholes,[B] but this is simply justification that religion has no place in modern society[/B].[/QUOTE]
Agreed, all religious people should convert to atheism, because you can't be rational unless you're an atheist.
...no
11:46 with the kids dancing with the horns is hilarious though lmao
All religions can fuck right off.
[QUOTE=Carne;36515562]Doesn't give the Muslims right to throw stuff at them.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I think everyone realizes that. The Christians knew that was going to happen though, they were expecting it. So if they try to complain, they could have just left.
[QUOTE=Wolverunder;36514389]Regardless of how obnoxious the guys with the signs are being, I have to be on their side.
You don't assault someone for expressing an opinion or belief in public.[/QUOTE]
In America, you fucking do! Because expressing an irrelevant opinion in an obnoxious way there, is like farting everywhere else. A fucking disgusting dishabit that you should learn to control, because it fucking stinks!
An expressed opinion in America is harassment everywhere else, while a Fact in America is an Opinion everywhere else. I mean CHRIST! We have whole campuses, 50k students a pop everywhere working to study your backwards alien psychology and mentality and all they can conclude is that you're not human in the sense that you're less logical than apes are...
Both groups need to leave.
[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;36515761]Agreed, all religious people should convert to atheism, because you can't be rational unless you're an atheist.
...no[/QUOTE]
I vote to stop brainwashing in schools. That means to remove everything that can't be logically reasoned to a level where it can be considered plausible. No religion can. You can't be 100% rational unless you stick with facts. How would you feel if a pilot of your airliner decides to pray for help when you run out of fuel, instead of attempting an emergency landing that he's trained for for 1000s of hours?
Yeah. That's what can happen when brainwashing is legal under the banner of religion. It's fucking dangerous. Yet here you are, trying to pass it off as some cute idea and everyone else is an agstry atheist, right?
Blind faith has no place in modern society, because it endangers everyone around the person and renders them untrustworthy. Who knows when they decide that an emotion or a voice tells them to "pop a glock in your mouth and make brain-slushie"? Yeah, i'm getting extreme, but i want to illustrate something here.
Religion by its very nature is irrational and molds irrational people. Irrational people CAN be dangerous, but aren't by default.
[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;36515761]Agreed, all religious people should convert to atheism, because you can't be rational unless you're an atheist.
...no[/QUOTE]
if you don't understand the difference between organized religion and faith you're a fucking idiot. i'm not saying people should not believe in god, but a specified institution which controls faith only creates problems (i.e the vatican saying you should not use contraception, people in the third world who have been indoctrinated and not educated on the subject actually believe it)
[QUOTE=Bomimo;36515861]In America, you fucking do! Because expressing an irrelevant opinion in an obnoxious way there, is like farting everywhere else. A fucking disgusting dishabit that you should learn to control, because it fucking stinks!
An expressed opinion in America is harassment everywhere else, while a Fact in America is an Opinion everywhere else. I mean CHRIST! We have whole campuses, 50k students a pop everywhere working to study your backwards alien psychology and mentality and all they can conclude is that you're not human in the sense that you're less logical than apes are...[/QUOTE]
the funny part is here you're doing precisely what these men were doing and being an outright smug cunt for absolutely no reason, and totally ignoring the flaws in your own viewpoint :)
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and what you're viewing as an "opinion" under your own logic would thus be classified as "harassment"
see why we don't? because the second you say a few harsh words to someone, it doesn't mean that you deserve to be carted off to jail ;)
[QUOTE=bilo;36514382]Yea, ok, and now let's see what would happen if a couple of islamists went to a catholic gathering holding up signs saying "Allah is true, god is a lie".[/QUOTE]
Ironically Allah and God are the same person
[QUOTE=bilo;36514382]Yea, ok, and now let's see what would happen if a couple of islamists went to a catholic gathering holding up signs saying "Allah is true, god is a lie".[/QUOTE]
presumably they would molest their children
As much as I disagree with the Christian group's message and their way of delivering it, I don't think they should have been assaulted like that from the Muslim group.
Also while I'm sure there is a factor we are missing, I find it funny that they couldn't spare two police to keep the crowd at bay but could summon over a dozen to escort them out.
[QUOTE=Die_Hard;36516421]Ironically Allah and God are the same person[/QUOTE]
No they aren't. At all.
Read a book or something.
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