• Mike Pence looks at Dick Cheney as a role model for vice presidency
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[QUOTE]GOP vice presidential nominee Mike Pence said Sunday that his role model for the vice presidency is [URL="http://www.cbsnews.com/news/dick-cheney-911-made-me-more-of-a-hard-rock/"]Dick Cheney[/URL]​. “I frankly hold Dick Cheney in really high regard in his role as vice president and as an American,” Pence said in an interview with ABC’s “This Week” that aired Sunday. Asked if that’s the kind of vice president he aspires to be, Pence said he wants to be “very active” just like Cheney. “Vice President Cheney had experience in Congress as I do and he was very active in working with members of the House and the Senate,” he said. Host Martha Raddatz, however, pointed out that Cheney was often criticized for “being too much of a force over the president.” “Well I think that what I admire most in vice presidents is when they’re able to take the vision of the president and champion that on Capitol Hill. And I would hope that my relationships over my 12 years in Congress and my four years here as governor of Indiana would help carry Donald Trump’s vision to make America great again. To people who would be crafting the legislation to put that into practice,” Pence said.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]“I would hope that my relationships over my 12 years in Congress and my four years here as governor of Indiana would help carry [URL="http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/donald-trump.htm"]Donald Trump[/URL]'s vision to make America great again to people who would be crafting the legislation to put that into practice,” he said. [/QUOTE] [URL]http://www.cbsnews.com/news/mike-pence-looks-at-dick-cheney-as-a-role-model-for-vice-presidency/[/URL] [URL]http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mike-pence-role-model-vice-president-dick-cheney/story?id=42170897[/URL] Youtube clip of the ABC interview [video=youtube;lMP85iONV08]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMP85iONV08[/video] Two interesting things: Firstly, he says his role model is the person who left office with a staggeringly low 13% approval rating which, as far as I can tell, is the lowest approval rating in history going back to 1937. Secondly, his ambitions to be a forceful vice president are particularly resounding when you keep in mind the allegations by Kasichs staff that Trump offered him "[URL="http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/20/politics/john-kasich-donald-trump-vice-president/"]the most powerful vice presidency in history[/URL]", being in charge of both domestic and foreign policy.
Imagine a day where the Vice President is basically the de facto ruler of the USA and the president is merely a symbolic figurehead given Trump I could imagine he'd allow a precedent to be set following on from the example of Cheney
I'm curious: would Trump supporters accept a Presidency where Pence is the one with the real power and Trump is more of a figurehead? That's what he offered to Kaisch, and it's not too much of a stretch to say he could have offered it to Pence. What do you think of Cheney as well?
[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51075954]I'm curious: would Trump supporters accept a Presidency where Pence is the one with the real power and Trump is more of a figurehead? That's what he offered to Kaisch, and it's not too much of a stretch to say he could have offered it to Pence. What do you think of Cheney as well?[/QUOTE] Most of the Bush administration's problems (warmongering, lowering of corporate tax rates, etc.) where because of Cheney. He's a ruthless hardass and one of the closes things we've ever had to an actual Bond villain running the country.
I too aspire to be a cynical oil snake and war criminal who helped put our country into endless debt and financial inequality.
I fail to see how [i]anybody[/i] can support the Trump-Pence ticket. Pence is arguably more despicable than Trump to everyone but radical evangelical fundamentalists. The fact that Trump has the judgment to pick someone like Pence as his VP says a lot. The fact that Trump has had to restructure his campaign, what, three times now, says a lot about how good his people really are. He doesn't have "the best people," he has some of the [I]absolute worst[/I]. Bannon, his campaign manager, is the CEO of the most rabidly pro-Trump far-right news organization in the country - no favoritism there. He's a former investment banker, so he cares about the little guys. He's been charged with domestic abuse of his ex-wife and threatened her if she didn't leave town. Manafort took under-the-table bribes from pro-Russian Ukrainian politicians. Lewandowski led the AFP, the group largely responsible for inciting and organizing the Tea Party Movement - which was [i]hugely[/i] funded by the Koch Brothers. Pence is a wildly anti-gay warmongering bigot who views Cheney, the guy who [I]actually[/I] got us into the Iraq War, as a [i]role model for Vice President.[/i] Roger Ailes is [I]literally a serial rapist.[/I] Roger Stone is a huge Alex Jones fan and fanatical conspiracy theorist and racist. These are the people Trump's chosen to help run his campaign. He has [I]the best people,[/I] those people being corrupt, wifebeaters, rapists, homophobes, and racists. There's no way to excuse the posse of idiots that Trump calls his campaign staff.
If Trump were elected, Pence would like hold massive sway of what his presidency actually does. Trump isn't very ideologically motivated.
[QUOTE=L'Citizen;51075963]Most of the Bush administration's problems (warmongering, lowering of corporate tax rates, etc.) where because of Cheney. He's a ruthless hardass and one of the closes things we've ever had to an actual Bond villain running the country.[/QUOTE] and ironically he's backpedaled from many of those positions in recent years, especially same-sex marriage after his one daughter came out, even more ironically his other daughter still is an ultra right wing nut just like he used to be so maybe he can finally get why we all hate him so much
Pence is a scumbag. He took $100k from the tobacco lobby and [URL="http://web.archive.org/web/20010415085348/http://mikepence.com/smoke.html"]campaigned against anything to do with the regulation or taxation of tobacco products [I]in 2001[/I][/URL] He's opposed to needle exchange programs for "moral" reasons and basically let an AIDS epidemic spill in over from Kentucky. He waited until after we had a problem to do something to help instead of preventing the problem in the first place, because his personal social conservative values are more important than the general health outcomes of Hoosiers. [URL="http://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2015/03/25/gov-pence-visit-indiana-county-hiv-outbreak/70427432/"]He still refuses to loosen restrictions on needle exchange programs in Indiana and is basically waiting until things get out of control to then tentatively allow provisions for them[/URL].
Well there goes any sliver of chance I still had in TrumPence. Cheney is a despicable person who was the actual acting president while Bush was out being the Conservative mascot. At least there's some karma in the world since that war criminal basically resembles Darth Vader with all of his life support.
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