REUTERS: U.S. to ban travel to North Korea from September 1, says Americans should leave
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[QUOTE]WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A ban on travel by U.S. passport holders to North Korea will take effect on Sept. 1 and Americans in the country should leave before that date, the U.S. State Department said on Wednesday.Journalists and humanitarian workers may apply for exceptions to the ban, the department said in a public notice.
The U.S. government last month said it would bar Americans from traveling to North Korea due to the risk of "long-term detention" there.
The ban comes at a time of heightened tensions between the United States and North Korea, which has been working to develop a nuclear-tipped missile capable of hitting the United States.
North Korea will become the only country to which Americans are banned from traveling.[/QUOTE]
[URL]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-usa-travel-idUSKBN1AI2H5[/URL]
Didn't we try something like this before? Like, right before we went into Iraq in 2003?
We should have banned travel to North Korea a long time ago. Americans are not safe there at all.
Am I the only one interpreting an uptick in events in/revolving around NK over the past few days even? Not like an increase in articles on the same subject but multiple different stories culminating around it?
What is war gonna be declared?
[QUOTE=Aide;52534059]What is war gonna be declared?[/QUOTE]
[quote]Sept. 1[/quote]
[QUOTE=Aide;52534059]What is war gonna be declared?[/QUOTE]
We are at war with them. The Korean war did not end formally
[QUOTE=Aide;52534059]What is war gonna be declared?[/QUOTE]
Not anytime soon based on what Tillerson said yesterday:
[url]http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/01/politics/tillerson-north-korea-us/index.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Aide;52534059]What is war gonna be declared?[/QUOTE]
As soon as Trump sees Red Dawn on TV and is 'influenced' enough.
Dunno why anyone in their right mind would think it's a great idea to travel to North Korea. Especially if you're an American. Or anyone else for that matter.
Of fucking course. Government cunts.
[QUOTE=redBadger;52534335]Dunno why anyone in their right mind would think it's a great idea to travel to North Korea. Especially if you're an American. Or anyone else for that matter.[/QUOTE]
Going to North Korea is basically the modern equivalent of a Victorian-era Freak Show.
[QUOTE=nulls;52534491]Of fucking course. Government cunts.[/QUOTE]
If you really wanted the NK experience, just bang your head on the cupboard repeatedly and ask someone to pour you ice cold water on your face with a towel.
Good fucking riddance, you'd have to be a special kind of fucking moron to mark NK as a dream travel.
[QUOTE=nulls;52534491]Of fucking course. Government cunts.[/QUOTE]
Gotta love it when communists get mad if someone calls North Korea an example of communism, but proceed to defend it rather fervently whenever the US takes action.
I want to visit NK......through the google maps.
[QUOTE=Kecske;52534171]Not anytime soon based on what Tillerson said yesterday:
[URL]http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/01/politics/tillerson-north-korea-us/index.html[/URL][/QUOTE]
Too bad, this would have been the first war in decades not fought for corrupt reasons.
[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;52534957]If you really wanted the NK experience, just bang your head on the cupboard repeatedly and ask someone to pour you ice cold water on your face with a towel.
Good fucking riddance, you'd have to be a special kind of fucking moron to mark NK as a dream travel.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, good one. If you actually want to get a good idea of what North Korea is like without going there, i'd say go to Liaoning province in China, as well as South Korea for the cultural aspect. If you want to see the aesthetics of a soviet influenced state, then i'd recommend looking into a lot of the cool as fuck unrecognized states like Transnistria, and Abkhazia. They're frozen conflict zones so they're safe and their governments aren't really functional so they don't have a habit of chucking tourists in cells. However, because they're frozen conflict zones, most of the places there have a lot of old soviet architecture. Although if you want a more asian feel to your communism, central asia has some crazy shit (especially Turkmenistan, less tourists per year that North Korea). China's too busy being china and knocking down everything historical and replacing it with garbage tourists sites. Not even tier 88 is safe from shitty chinese developers and greed. I wouldn't bother going anywhere but the NK borderlands if you're looking for north korean style crazy shit.
[QUOTE=Ghost656;52535054]Gotta love it when communists get mad if someone calls North Korea an example of communism, but proceed to defend it rather fervently whenever the US takes action.[/QUOTE]
No one uses North Korea as an example of communism.
On the flip side, no one wants more US military bases expanding influence over East Asia. We see how well that worked everytime we topple a government in a country across the world.
[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;52534957]If you really wanted the NK experience, just bang your head on the cupboard repeatedly and ask someone to pour you ice cold water on your face with a towel.
Good fucking riddance, you'd have to be a special kind of fucking moron to mark NK as a dream travel.[/QUOTE]
6,000ish westerners visit North Korea each year and come home perfectly safe. Don't be a dipshit in a country you know is authoritarian and you'll be fine.
[QUOTE=Zang-Pog;52535865]How about you don't be a dipshit and support a shithole that abuses its citizens and has no regard for human rights?[/QUOTE]
I don't, but I'd rather America not install another regime after toppling this one.
[QUOTE=Zang-Pog;52535865]How about you don't be a dipshit and support a shithole that abuses its citizens and has no regard for human rights?[/QUOTE]
I certainly haven't lost any sleep over it.
It's like a jew taking a vacation in Nazi Germany
I don't understand why Americans would ever visit NK unless they don't care for their lives
[QUOTE=nulls;52535824]6,000ish westerners visit North Korea each year and come home perfectly safe. Don't be a dipshit in a country you know is authoritarian and you'll be fine.[/QUOTE]
North Korea hates America in particular and American tourists are in danger there, nearly all foreigners detained are American.
"all americans should leave the country. like seriously all americans. All americans, including ex nba stars and their possy, probably all of them should leave immediately..... definitely we are not going to help you if anything else happens...."
[editline]3rd August 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=Orkel;52536356]It's like a jew taking a vacation in Nazi Germany
I don't understand why Americans would ever visit NK unless they don't care for their lives[/QUOTE]
repatriating remains and humanitarian work, otherwise the tourists are a horrible idea
[QUOTE=nulls;52535824]No one uses North Korea as an example of communism.
On the flip side, no one wants more US military bases expanding influence over East Asia. We see how well that worked everytime we topple a government in a country across the world.[/QUOTE]
Well Germany and Japan turned out perfectly fine and we have bases in those countries. I don't see how banning travel to North Korea has anything to do with military bases expanding influence anyways. Besides if we ever do perform a regime change in North Korea I'm sure it would be way fucking better than what they have there now.
[QUOTE=nulls;52535878]I don't, but I'd rather America not install another regime after toppling this one.[/QUOTE]
I'd much rather the US install a government much more like South Korea's democracy than the literal worst government on the planet that they have right now
[QUOTE=proboardslol;52537815]I'd much rather the US install a government much more like South Korea's democracy than the literal worst government on the planet that they have right now[/QUOTE]
South Korea's democracy was a dictatorship for most of its modern history, we never really cared too much about who was running it, just as long as the trains were on time.
Fortunately they seemed to have worked it out.
[QUOTE=Sableye;52537833]South Korea's democracy was a dictatorship for most of its modern history, we never really cared too much about who was running it, just as long as the trains were on time.
Fortunately they seemed to have worked it out.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but their government is doing a lot better [I]now[/I].
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;52536880]North Korea hates America in particular and American tourists are in danger there, nearly all foreigners detained are American.[/QUOTE]
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foreign_nationals_detained_in_North_Korea]chances of being detained seem pretty slim[/url]
[QUOTE=proboardslol;52537837]Yeah, but their government is doing a lot better [I]now[/I].[/QUOTE]
ya but i'm saying, it took them decades to establish a functional democracy with the US basically sitting ontop of them and the specter of communists nearby. North Korea though, lord knows how the populace responds to an absolute collapse of social order. We could see another south korea, or another russia, more likely the latter since china would concievably not want a strong north korea on their boarder again.
[QUOTE=Valdor;52537856][url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foreign_nationals_detained_in_North_Korea]chances of being detained seem pretty slim[/url][/QUOTE]
12 Americans being detained within 7 years, most of which are for bullshit reasons, is pretty bad dude
[QUOTE=proboardslol;52537815]I'd much rather the US install a government much more like South Korea's democracy than the literal worst government on the planet that they have right now[/QUOTE]
but do you trust the Trump administration to do that? at best i expect them to just destroy the government and leave all the civilians to rot under a purely symbolic leader.
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