Woman tweets as she attacks burglar with bear mace
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[quote]SAN FRANCISCO — A photographer live-tweeted as she retaliated against a burglar with bear spray and a samurai sword.
Sonya Yu knew that a thief had been roaming her neighborhood stealing packages off doorsteps, and tweeted, “Apparently our neighborhood thief has a violent rape rap sheet. My bear spray, bokken, and I are still not intimidate.”
Yu put a ‘bait package’ on her front porch, where Andy Anduha, 51, had stolen $1000 worth of deliveries from her in the past, and waited for him, according to the Daily Mail.
Moments later she tweeted again, writing that she got him with the bear mace, police identified the man, and he was being taken to the hospital.
She explained what happened as Twitter followers expressed their concerns, saying the police laughed when they saw her ‘weapons.’
San Francisco police warned residents against confronting criminals themselves. [/quote]
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sounds like a classic case of second amendment rights to the rescue
For some reason I thought of a literal bear mace
Isn't leaving bait to criminals entrapment or is that only for police?
It's more surprising that a 51-year-old man managed to stay upright and escape when he was attacked with pepper spray designed for bears.
[editline]1st December 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;38661113]A fucking samurai sword?
Dude...[/QUOTE]
She mentions that it is a bokken, meaning it was a practice sword made of wood.
Was expecting an actual mace designed to kill bears, for whatever reason. I guess I forgot that mace spray is a thing
"Sprayed someone in the face! YOLO!"
[QUOTE=koeniginator;38661102]sounds like a classic case of second amendment rights to the rescue[/QUOTE]
Bear maces are basically pepper spray. They aren't considered "arms"
[QUOTE=EmperorKabuto;38661114]Isn't leaving bait to criminals entrapment or is that only for police?[/QUOTE]
Depends on the bait. Having someone sell you drugs, or dress up as a whore is entrapment as basically they entrap you with illegal behaviour. Leaving a normal package does not fall udner this. On top of that entrapment means that the person is direclty intentially arrested afterwards. She merely "defended" her ownership right.
Do people HONESTLY feel the need to tweet about
EVERY
FUCKING
THING
[QUOTE=wraithcat;38661187]Bear maces are basically pepper spray. They aren't considered "arms"[/quote]
It's a joke
[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;38661192]Do people HONESTLY feel the need to tweet about
EVERY
FUCKING
THING[/QUOTE]
Just let her have her fun. She's obviously glad the guy who had stolen from her in the past was finally bagged. The whole point of it being a social network is to share things with people when they're not there in person.
i wonder how bear spray feels
i mean bears can take bullets and be like fuck you anyways
[QUOTE=EmperorKabuto;38661114]Isn't leaving bait to criminals entrapment or is that only for police?[/QUOTE]
no and its not entrapment for police either
entrapment is where an officer convinces someone to commit a crime that they wouldn't have been willing to commit without the officer's insistence.
[QUOTE=EmperorKabuto;38661114]Isn't leaving bait to criminals entrapment or is that only for police?[/QUOTE]
that's not entrapment at all. entrapment is if, for example, an undercover police officer tries to sell you some weed. you buy it, then they arrest you.
take for example, the police leave an unlocked car on the street with the keys in the ignition and some guy comes up, sees it, gets in and tries to drive off. this is NOT an example of entrapment because he wasn't forced/persuaded into stealing the car.
[editline]1st December 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=wraithcat;38661187]Depends on the bait. Having someone sell you drugs, or dress up as a whore is entrapment as basically they entrap you with illegal behaviour. Leaving a normal package does not fall udner this.[/quote]
undercover officers working a prostitution stint is not entrapment.
[quote]On top of that entrapment means that the person is direclty intentially arrested afterwards.[/QUOTE]
no it doesn't
[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;38661554]that's not entrapment at all. entrapment is if, for example, an undercover police officer tries to sell you some weed. you buy it, then they arrest you.
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this isnt entrapment either. this is actually a fairly common occurence, it's called a "controlled buy".
an example of entrapment is if an officer comes up to you, asks you to sell him weed, you refuse, and then he goes on to convince you to get weed to sell to him. that would be entrapment because he caused you to commit a crime you wouldn't normally commit.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;38661577]this isnt entrapment either. this is actually a fairly common occurence, it's called a "controlled buy".
an example of entrapment is if an officer comes up to you, asks you to sell him weed, you refuse, and then he goes on to convince you to get weed to sell to him. that would be entrapment because he caused you to commit a crime you wouldn't normally commit.[/QUOTE]
you just said the same thing i just said.
[quote]Yu put a ‘bait package’ on her front porch, where Andy Anduha, 51, had stolen $1000 worth of deliveries from her in the past, and waited for him, according to the Daily Mail.[/quote]
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong because I might be, but in the back of my head I feel like I've heard about some law that makes baiting people into things like that illegal or something.
[QUOTE=evilweazel;38661586]Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong because I might be, but in the back of my head I feel like I've heard about some law that makes baiting people into things like that illegal or something.[/QUOTE]
no it isn't. see above.
[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;38661583]you just said the same thing i just said.[/QUOTE]
no it's not the same thing at all.
here is my states definition of entrapment
RCW 9A.16.070
(1) In any prosecution for a crime, it is a defense that:
(a) The criminal design originated in the mind of law enforcement officials, or any person acting under their direction, and
(b) The actor was lured or induced to commit a crime which the actor had not otherwise intended to commit.
(2) The defense of entrapment is not established by a showing only that law enforcement officials merely afforded the actor an opportunity to commit a crime.
[url]http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9A.16.070[/url]
[editline]1st December 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=evilweazel;38661586]Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong because I might be, but in the back of my head I feel like I've heard about some law that makes baiting people into things like that illegal or something.[/QUOTE]
cops do controlled buys, bait cars, bait bikes, prostitution stings, and shit like that all the time. it's not illegal
[quote](b) The actor was lured or induced to commit a crime which the actor had not otherwise intended to commit.[/quote]
you mean, EXACTLY the same thing i just said?
[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;38661554]that's not entrapment at all. entrapment is if, for example, an undercover police officer [b]tries to sell you some weed. you buy it[/b], then they arrest you.[/quote]
[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;38661619]you mean, EXACTLY the same thing i just said?[/QUOTE]
(2) is the important part. it cant simply be giving you the opportunity to commit a crime which is the implication from your hypothetical scenario.
except the word "tries" implies that they were actively trying to coerce the person.
[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;38661192]Do people HONESTLY feel the need to tweet about
EVERY
FUCKING
THING[/QUOTE]
It's way better than the average "made some toast" tweets, so whatever
[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;38661661]except the word "tries" implies that they were actively trying to coerce the person.[/QUOTE]
not necessarily but anyways im not gonna continue arguing over a damn hypothetical with you lol i was just trying to make sure it was incredibly clear that entrapment is not simply affording someone the opportunity to commit a crime, but actively convincing someone to commit a crime the person wouldnt have otherwise committed
[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;38661192]Do people HONESTLY feel the need to tweet about
EVERY
FUCKING
THING[/QUOTE]
Eating breakfast, using the bathroom, catching a thief, driving somewhere, buying a game, going to the store.
Such everyday occurrences, GOD don't twitter users have anything better to post about?
[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;38661500]i wonder how bear spray feels
i mean bears can take bullets and be like fuck you anyways[/QUOTE]
If I remember right, it's way above army grade pepper spray, so yes, it probably hurts like a motherfucker.
And about the bokken, just because it's made out of wood and is used for training, doesn't mean getting hit by it doesn't hurt a fuck ton, I think I'd much rather fight someone with a bo staff than a fucking bokken :v: Especially if it's an edged bokken.
[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;38661661]except the word "tries" implies that they were actively trying to coerce the person.[/QUOTE]
No it doesn't. Don't assume we know what you know. We can't read your mind.
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