SwedenDemocrats says Al Qaida and ISIS are terrorist groups, Swedish parliament shocked.
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[quote]Richard Jomshof* began his speech by enumerating several terror stamped organizations including the Islamic government and al-Qaeda.
- The common denominator is that they are all violence advocacy and anti-democratic Islamist terrorist organizations, he said.
Then he proceeded to talk about how Christians are being persecuted in the Muslim world.
- When Sweden receives hundreds of thousands of people from this world, it creates problems. Of course, because there is nowhere to stay, no job to go to and for our schools and social services are inadequate. Many of the values in that part of the world takes hold in Europe and Sweden, which creates division, segregation, violence and unrest. Sweden is moving towards a system collapse.
Jomshof were severely criticized by several members of the other parties, including Veronica Palm, S.
"In the parliamentary rostrum spread right now Islamophobia in an unusual rough shape," she wrote on Twitter.
She develops her answer for Expressen.se:
- It was classic racism and this time directed against Muslims, rattling off groups and events that are not good, such as terrorism. What he did was to give the impression that it is part of the Muslim culture and Islamic tradition. It is nothing more than to spread prejudices about Muslims and there is Islamophobia.
Robert Hannah, FP, says Jomshof play fake games.
- It's a falcon game when trying to paint Muslims as the biggest threat to Sweden but really it's about not wanting to take any at all. This is Islamophobia, to paint a group that its evil itself.[/quote]
*Robert is currently replacing the former party leader, Jimmie Åkesson.
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Holy shit did things get that bad in Sweden? This is ridiculous
[QUOTE=Swineflu;46481423]Holy shit did things get that bad in Sweden? This is ridiculous[/QUOTE]
The general population isnt like the politicians though. I dont like SD nor do I like any of our other parties but this is just hilarious.
You dumb shits, they're not shocked that the SD saying they're bad. They're saying that the SD is only bringing them up to fearmonger about the general Muslim population.
[QUOTE]"It was classic racism and this time directed against Muslims, rattling off groups and events [B]that are not good, such as terrorism[/B]. What he did was to give the impression that it is part of the Muslim culture and Islamic tradition. It is nothing more than to spread prejudices about Muslims and there is Islamophobia"[/QUOTE]
She's not denying that Al Qaida and ISIS are terrorist groups or that they're bad; she's saying the Sweden Democrats are using them to conjure up scary images when it comes to Middle Eastern immigrants and Islam in general. The SD aren't asking for any sort of action against them, they're just using their names in an attempt to associate Islam in general with them.
[QUOTE=MrBob1337;46481583]You dumb shits, they're not shocked that the SD saying they're bad. They're saying that the SD is only bringing them up to fearmonger about the general Muslim population.
She's not denying that Al Qaida and ISIS are terrorist groups or that they're bad; she's saying the Sweden Democrats are using them to conjure up scary images when it comes to Middle Eastern immigrants and Islam in general. The SD aren't asking for any sort of action against them, they're just using their names in an attempt to associate Islam in general with them.[/QUOTE]
Was just about to say this. Misleading title there.
[B]Misleading title as fuck. [/B]
They were shocked because he basically said that we should no longer accept muslim immigrants because they are all terrorists
Well it's not like Christian or Catholic groups are known for car or suicide bombing.
But the title is sarcasm?
[QUOTE=Zergeant;46481989]Well it's not like Christian or Catholic groups are known for car or suicide bombing.[/QUOTE]
They did invade the entire middle-east over religion though.
While I don't think militant religion will ever really cease, I do think it's stupid to turn away rational thinking people.
[QUOTE=Zergeant;46481989]Well it's not like Christian or Catholic groups are known for car or suicide bombing.[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bombings_during_the_Northern_Ireland_Troubles_and_peace_process"]...It isn't?[/URL]
[QUOTE=Sokrates;46481756][B]Misleading title as fuck. [/B]
They were shocked because he basically said that we should no longer accept muslim immigrants because they are all terrorists[/QUOTE]
this isn't even misleading tbh, its outright lying, isn't this shit bannable?
[QUOTE=Swineflu;46481423]Holy shit did things get that bad in Sweden? This is ridiculous[/QUOTE]
Well it gets better, hopefully.
[QUOTE=Riller;46482098][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bombings_during_the_Northern_Ireland_Troubles_and_peace_process"]...It isn't?[/URL][/QUOTE]
To be fair, the notable difference being that those attacks weren't in the name of the religion or for the religion - it was just coincidental that the political divide was also a religious one.
[QUOTE=G-Strogg;46482067]They did invade the entire middle-east over religion though.
While I don't think militant religion will ever really cease, I do think it's stupid to turn away rational thinking people.[/QUOTE]
The Crusades didn't just occur in the Middle East though, they also took place across Europe. Religion was just very easily used as a call to arms for a mostly political/economic military campaign.
Kind of like Islam is now, huh.
[QUOTE=butt2089;46482436]To be fair, the notable difference being that those attacks weren't in the name of the religion or for the religion - it was just coincidental that the political divide was also a religious one.
The Crusades didn't just occur in the Middle East though, they also took place across Europe. Religion was just very easily used as a call to arms for a mostly political/economic military campaign.
[B]Kind of like Islam is now[/B], huh.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, problematic when it happens, but using it as a blanket statement to attack them is about as bad.
[QUOTE=G-Strogg;46482467]Yeah, problematic when it happens, but using it as a blanket statement to attack them is about as bad.[/QUOTE]
But the problem is you're using a blanket statement to attack the cause of the Crusades when it was just as much about politics as it was about religion. The Crusades came about from centuries of religious warfare between the Muslim world and Byzantine Empire which culminated in the Seljuk invasion of Asia Minor and Battle of Mantzikert in 1071. The original call for the Crusades was due to the Emperor Alexios seeking aid from what used to be a close ally, the Pope. From there things devolve into Western politics and dealings that I honestly don't know a lot of the details for, but the end result was a massive push to re-conquer what used to be Christian land (The Middle East and North Africa having been conquered in the 8th century.)
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