Linustechtips goes to a concept ocean liner with crazy tech shit
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[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI9OmoMwz5s[/media]
VR dining, apps that call waiters, you sleep in the room from the start of portal 2.
Cool future.
this is gonna completely change the face of crewzing
Looks fun, too bad most of us would not be able to afford it as it stands now
[QUOTE=Michael haxz;52940229]Looks fun, too bad most of us would not be able to afford it as it stands now[/QUOTE]
Oh don't worry, they'll offset the cost by selling all of the personal information they gather on you through their app
I guess I'm confused by high luxury. Going anywhere on a sailing trip would be memorable for me- I wouldn't need to wake up to a monitor showing me a sea view because I could just go out on deck. And if I wanted luxury, a normal cruise ship seriously would do it all. I don't really see the need for a majority of these things unless I get really really bored of normal stimulus.
Also as far as turning your phone into a location tracker, if you were a kid, how fun would it be to have your mom know exactly where you were at all times? I'd just want to run around.
Also cruise ships are one of the most polluting transportation there is.
Call me when they are 100% electric
[QUOTE=Lazore;52940420]Also cruise ships are one of the most polluting transportation there is.
Call me when they are 100% electric[/QUOTE]
This one is hydrogen fuel cell "powered" (it's a concept so it's a smaller cell that powers some but not all of the exhibition floor)
[QUOTE=Cufflux;52940356]I guess I'm confused by high luxury. Going anywhere on a sailing trip would be memorable for me- I wouldn't need to wake up to a monitor showing me a sea view because I could just go out on deck. And if I wanted luxury, a normal cruise ship seriously would do it all. I don't really see the need for a majority of these things unless I get really really bored of normal stimulus.
Also as far as turning your phone into a location tracker, if you were a kid, how fun would it be to have your mom know exactly where you were at all times? I'd just want to run around.[/QUOTE]
I dunno why he was rated dumb, I kind of agree. Like the bedroom ceiling and windows having changeable backgrounds was a cool gimmick, but I'd much rather admire the natural view, seeing as I'm on a cruise ship and all.
Most of this tech would be way better in a normal hotel. I feel like a cruise ship by itself is "experience" enough. The only things that made sense were the ordering function and real-time update of order status, and the connectivity stuff in the bedroom.
Idk if all the rooms can have a natural view.
[QUOTE=01271;52941645]Idk if all the rooms can have a natural view.[/QUOTE]
They all can't once you start getting huge ships. Traditionally you either get a patio or nothing I think. Obviously rooms without a view are cheaper. Royal Caribbean sorta solved this with the Oasis-class by making the interior rooms overlook the interior of the ship.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/AhLOL5B.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=OvB;52941784]They all can't once you start getting huge ships. Traditionally you either get a patio or nothing I think. Obviously rooms without a view are cheaper. Royal Caribbean sorta solved this with the Oasis-class by making the interior rooms overlook the interior of the ship.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/AhLOL5B.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
It gives me anxiety thinking that any moment a ball from that basketball court or mini golf area could fly off the boat
I mean it’s unlikely with the walls but still
Ocean Liners are a horrendously awful piece of tech. Their carbon emissions are fucking [I]disgusting[/I].
I don't see the reason for their existence. They're a huge theme park and I guess the gimmick is they're on the water - but there is zero reason for why they even need to be on the ocean in the first place. They dump their shit everywhere and pollute an absolutely colossal amount of carbon on their voyages. The should be illegal by all accounts, especially in our current climate condition.
I'm not going to disregard the tech in this video as not being incredible, the AR bridge is pretty neat and most other things are pretty iterative and nothing new, but still interesting to see it all combined in a controlled environment like this.
This image really impressed me:
[t]https://i.imgur.com/QbqNfLx.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;52942077]Ocean Liners are a horrendously awful piece of tech. Their carbon emissions are fucking [I]disgusting[/I].
I don't see the reason for their existence. They're a huge theme park and I guess the gimmick is they're on the water - but there is zero reason for why they even need to be on the ocean in the first place. They dump their shit everywhere and pollute an absolutely colossal amount of carbon on their voyages. The should be illegal by all accounts, especially in our current climate condition.
I'm not going to disregard the tech in this video as not being incredible, the AR bridge is incredible and most other things are pretty iterative but still done really well in a controlled environment like a ship.
This image really impressed me:
[t]https://i.imgur.com/QbqNfLx.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
They're more than just theme parks on the water. They take you to a number of ports and you disembark.
[QUOTE=geel9;52942109]They're more than just theme parks on the water. They take you to a number of ports and you disembark.[/QUOTE]
Oh no doubt, but you don't need a Supercruiser dumping 0.2% of the total carbon emissions to the atmosphere to take you to a port in some tropical island.
[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;52942126]Oh no doubt, but you don't need a Supercruiser dumping 0.2% of the total carbon emissions to the atmosphere to take you to a port in some tropical island.[/QUOTE]
where'd you get that number
the amount for shipping is [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_shipping]2.2%[/url] which includes about 60,000 cargo ships
[QUOTE=Perrine;52942166]where'd you get that number
the amount for shipping is [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_shipping]2.2%[/url] which includes about 60,000 cargo ships[/QUOTE]
[url]http://tourismdashboard.org/explore-the-data/cruise-ship/[/url]
They do appear to be [I]trying[/I] to cut emissions at least.
Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely not the target audience for a cruise, they seem to be hyperactivity condensed into a ship. I just think they're a rarely looked at contributor to the emission crises we're facing.
Ships will get better. Gotta look at ships like cities. Even cargo ships. They require a shitload of power. Cruise ships moreso. It's incredible. They're not like cars where we can just switch to batteries or something easily with only a minimal drop in range. Ships have a global range requirement while providing a crapload of power to other systems. I don't know if battery tech is quite there yet. But I'm not an electrical engineer. I'd love for someone to do the math.
[QUOTE=Cufflux;52940356]I guess I'm confused by high luxury. Going anywhere on a sailing trip would be memorable for me- I wouldn't need to wake up to a monitor showing me a sea view because I could just go out on deck. And if I wanted luxury, a normal cruise ship seriously would do it all. I don't really see the need for a majority of these things unless I get really really bored of normal stimulus.
Also as far as turning your phone into a location tracker, if you were a kid, how fun would it be to have your mom know exactly where you were at all times? I'd just want to run around.[/QUOTE]
Those rooms are interior rooms, I think. Much cheaper than balcony views typically.
Also what does it matter if your mother knows where you are? It's not like you can leave the ship anyway.
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[QUOTE=OvB;52941784]They all can't once you start getting huge ships. Traditionally you either get a patio or nothing I think. Obviously rooms without a view are cheaper. Royal Caribbean sorta solved this with the Oasis-class by making the interior rooms overlook the interior of the ship.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/AhLOL5B.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
I was on this ship like 3 years ago on one of those interior rooms. Was over the "central park" part of it. It was actually really nice.
[QUOTE=C0linSSX;52940289]Oh don't worry, they'll offset the cost by selling all of the personal information they gather on you through their app[/QUOTE]
Yea lmao, the holographic stuff is cool but I'm really creeped out by the always-on tracking, behavior profiling, and facial recognition throughout the ship. I know that's all useless as soon as you get off the boat, but when you look at it as a microcosm of a city, it's scary to think about how that tech can (and likely will) show up in cities soon.
[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;52942435]Yea lmao, the holographic stuff is cool but I'm really creeped out by the always-on tracking, behavior profiling, and facial recognition throughout the ship. I know that's all useless as soon as you get off the boat, but when you look at it as a microcosm of a city, it's scary to think about how that tech can (and likely will) show up in cities soon.[/QUOTE]
That shit is already being used in some cities, not so much by municipal bodies (and even then not explicitly true as some do similar things), but absolutely by economical bodies. Especially if you're a bigger city getting all the latest cool shopping/traveling/whatever apps and tech.
They're tracking you the moment you start to interact with them at all. Do a search on that cool high-tech general store or whatever nearby that uses a new app for a big part of its experience? Several companies already know and are working backwards to see your other search trends. Look at store hours? They're working back to see if they can see your job, if you might have kids in school, approximately how far you live from the store. Download the app? They're checking all your other app downloads and how long you spend in each app and going to be checking how many people you have in your phone's contacts.. Go to the store? They're keeping track of how long you spend in there, what time you came in. Make a purchase? Its going to track how many items, what each one is, how long it took you to purchase them, and work back to talk to others to see what your past purchasing habits are. Are any of these items ones you buy frequently? Were some of them cheaper or more expensive somewhere else you frequently visit either physical or digital?
After you go home, do you talk about the store on social media? Who did you tell? Was it a public post on a place like twitter? A general facebook post to friends only? A DM on twitter/facebook? What kind of twitter followers do you have? What are your facebook friends like? What is your relationship to the people you DM'd? Who liked/favorited/retweeted your post?
And frankly, most of data gathering is being done repeatedly throughout the process, many of them at every step of the way. While you're in the store, are you also searching online for items sold there? What items did you search for and buy? What items did you not buy? Did you buy something you posted about on social media or searched for recently? Of course these things are "anonymized" meaning names are scrubbed, street addresses, directly identifying stuff. But goddamn do they know everything else about you.
Keep in mind Amazon already has physical stores for book sales, and is going to be opening their "Amazon Go" physical stores before too long. [url]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-15/amazon-s-cashierless-store-is-almost-ready-for-prime-time[/url]
Some interesting excerpts:
[quote]Employees have tried to fool the technology. One day, three enterprising Amazonians donned bright yellow Pikachu costumes and cruised around grabbing sandwiches, drinks and snacks. The algorithms nailed it, according to a person familiar with the situation, correctly identifying the employees and charging their Amazon accounts, even though they were obscured behind yellow polyester. [/quote]
[quote]Shoppers visiting an Amazon Go store will scan their smartphones upon entering. Cameras and shelf sensors will then work together to figure out which items have been removed and who removed them, the person says; there will be no need for tracking devices, such as radio frequency chips, embedded in the merchandise.[/quote]
[quote]Engineers are also figuring out which person to charge when a couple goes shopping together.[/quote]
But this is already well underway at plenty of places. Consider how many stores, entertainment complexes, service shops, and so on have their own app that you can use right when you walk in for great deals or to get quicker service or to pick up your movie tickets or whatever. Amazon Go is just broadening the scope of their data collection.
Several years ago, I think prior to 2010 even, there was a leak or something from a search engine, maybe Google or Yahoo, I can't recall. It was just lists of all the searches an IP address had made. Initially a lot of people responded with "Whatever, it just lists of movies and stores and such." Until people realized that it also included people searching for their own names or those of family members, personal information including social security numbers, product searches which could get very specific like "pregnancy tests" and "abortion clinics" or "HIV treatment" "HIV insurance coverage" and such. And suddenly you could work out intimate events and details from these lists. "Ohh, around this date this person had unprotected sex. This person had a car accident around this date. This person celebrated a birthday on this date." And that was just from their search terms which were technically anonymized. And that is nothing compared to the scope of it today.
So the data collected on this ship will continue to be relevant long after you leave the ship. Especially because you'll be living there for some time and connected to their wireless networks and such, they'll have an amazing amount of knowledge on you by the time you are done.
[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;52942077]Ocean Liners are a horrendously awful piece of tech. Their carbon emissions are fucking [I]disgusting[/I].
I don't see the reason for their existence. They're a huge theme park and I guess the gimmick is they're on the water - but there is zero reason for why they even need to be on the ocean in the first place. They dump their shit everywhere and pollute an absolutely colossal amount of carbon on their voyages. The should be illegal by all accounts, especially in our current climate condition.
I'm not going to disregard the tech in this video as not being incredible, the AR bridge is pretty neat and most other things are pretty iterative and nothing new, but still interesting to see it all combined in a controlled environment like this.
This image really impressed me:
[t]https://i.imgur.com/QbqNfLx.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]The people afraid of flying have to travel intercontinentally somehow.
That image looks like one of the Stargate sets.
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