[highlight][u]So Facepunch, let's collaborate our thoughts to learn and perfect our attitudes in life, in the aim of self-betterment in order to facilitate unity as human beings.[/u][/highlight]
The last thread has been dead for half a year, so no complaints. When is it not a good time to refresh on topics that pertain to our knowledge, values, mental attitudes and our existence?
I want you Drug Discussion posters to share some of your insights and beliefs in life.
It can be about any aspect in life. Think seriously for a moment and write whatever thoughts you have, and leave them uninfluenced by anything other than [b]your own thoughts.[/b]
So, let's practice our ability of [b]free thinking[/b]. This may be hard for some.
For my contribution:
For an intensely awesome feeling of worth to human society: Alongside with seeing how far you can extend your abilities to influence situations for personal benefit, help other people
reach/come closer to their potential at achieving things likewise. If done correctly, you will lose little to nothing and the person you secretly helped will gain personal betterment,
which releases positive energy into society. This in return will benefit you and other people around you.
[highlight][u]Channeling energy appropriately:[/u][/highlight] How often do you see groups of people driven to act in a certain way? [b]Rebellious anti-establishment driven people cause destructive acts, teens buy
into the urban legend of the Illuminati and take appropriate measures, etc.[/b][highlight] -> Think of the thousands of people who realize when they are persecuted and take action for their freedom,
but their efforts are misguided by overlooked bad influences, and therefore work against their ultimate struggle for free will.[/highlight]
Dwelling on existential thoughts: You can't change what you are and what this reality is and that it is existing. These good feelings you sometimes experience as a human being do not
mean anything, but you can chase these if you settle for simple comforts/pleasures. If you do choose to carry on living, then dwell on what you can or could control. Then you will come
closer to getting what you want, and therefore feel more comfortable and experience more pleasure in life. You're gonna die anyway, so why not?
Undeserved sense of self-importance and ego's: Stripped down to what matters, you're no better than any other human. However, a huge ego does help in daily life. Ego in the sense that
you do not exclude people, brag and other unnecessary shit, but you believe in yourself as a person driven by meaningful motives to change things in your society. Do not lower yourself
needlessly, and you are at no point better or worse than anyone. Risk analysis and taking is an important skill.
Go ahead and post, you know you'll be heard.
[I]hey[/I] [highlight]mikey[/highlight] [B]whats[/B] [I][B]goin[/B][/I] on
I've gotten very weird highs sometimes that allowed me to get a relatively exact idea of how my mind works and realized that had so many thoughts throughout the day that I didn't realize. It was really weird because moments just kept popping into my head and I could hear what I was thinking during it and it all sounded dumb. But I started to realize how much I actually knew about people which is little to none, I know how I perceive them, but they are way different than how I perceive them and they are merely a symbol in my mind, nothing real, and really that's how I see everything.
It was weird because usually I make decisions without really thinking about it, but I was finding that I actually did think about the decisions I thought I didn't think about.
It a lot ways this was good because it was very interesting, at the time I didn't like it at all. This happened a while ago so there was a lot more to it. This kind of stuff makes me want to do LSD and stuff for spiritual and philosophical purposes.
Later that night, everything seemed corny, that's not anything philosophical, but most everything just seemed really corny, and it was stuff that I wouldn't usually see as corny.
[QUOTE=Pepin;24386205]I've gotten very weird highs sometimes that allowed me to get a relatively exact idea of how my mind works and realized that had so many thoughts throughout the day that I didn't realize. It was really weird because moments just kept popping into my head and I could hear what I was thinking during it and it all sounded dumb. But I started to realize how much I actually knew about people which is little to none, I know how I perceive them, but they are way different than how I perceive them and they are merely a symbol in my mind, nothing real, and really that's how I see everything.
It was weird because usually I make decisions without really thinking about it, but I was finding that I actually did think about the decisions I thought I didn't think about.
It a lot ways this was good because it was very interesting, at the time I didn't like it at all. This happened a while ago so there was a lot more to it. This kind of stuff makes me want to do LSD and stuff for spiritual and philosophical purposes.
Later that night, everything seemed corny, that's not anything philosophical, but most everything just seemed really corny, and it was stuff that I wouldn't usually see as corny.[/QUOTE]
That's the kind of thing I get when I smoke sativa. I love it, because it motivates me to be more social and caring while I act pretty indifferent to people.
I was reading trip reports on DMT, and people who've done it say the actual trip is around 2-10 minutes, but it feels like years have passed when you come back.
That got me thinking.
When people die they release a massive amount of DMT.
So, maybe I could be dead or near-death right now, but I'm living in the trip of a massive DMT experience. And when I die in this trip, it'll start another trip all over again.
:psyboom:
[QUOTE=Rastaboy;24387724]I was reading trip reports on DMT, and people who've done it say the actual trip is around 2-10 minutes, but it feels like years have passed when you come back.
That got me thinking.
When people die they release a massive amount of DMT.
So, maybe I could be dead or near-death right now, but I'm living in the trip of a massive DMT experience. And when I die in this trip, it'll start another trip all over again.
:psyboom:[/QUOTE]
A common theory but endogenous DMT levels are rather low so it's unlikely.
Then how are NDE's explained?
They aren't explained. That's why there are theories on it. There are plenty of theories on it.
Same with the amounts of DMT in the brain upon death and sleep.
It sucks how everything most interesting is a theory.
Something that I find very interesting about drugs is that they often can affect the way we see things, and also change our vision in so many ways. But what I'm also intrigued in is how people's vision and perception is so influenced and distorted and they don't even notice.
I am under the belief that what we actually see is very altered and that perceptual distortions and hallucinations (not extreme ones) are very common in everyday life. After talking to a lot of people about how they get some interesting visual effects when they aren't high (and I myself get this) I began to think that this kind of stuff aren't the drugs doing, yet it is more that the person is much more aware of when there are changes in their vision because of drugs.
Many users of drugs are used to changes in their vision, be it objects looking different, the classic 2D effects, objects seeming to be bigger or smaller than they actually are, objects being blurred out, a greater sense of focus, ect, ect. Part of this is often people taking time to notice and look for changes in their vision, and although sometimes the effect may be subtle it is still noticed by the user.
So essentially what I'm saying is that many people who get visual type effects that they see sober aren't caused by taking the drugs at all because the person would normally get these kind of effects, but the fact that they have done drugs and tend to notice these types of differences allow them to see these effects that they got before using drugs.
Hope that made sense, tried to explain it well, I am going to assume someone has thought of this before and it's a common theory because nothing is original.
[QUOTE=Pepin;24402451]Something that I find very interesting about drugs is that they often can affect the way we see things, and also change our vision in so many ways. But what I'm also intrigued in is how people's vision and perception is so influenced and distorted and they don't even notice.
I am under the belief that what we actually see is very altered and that perceptual distortions and hallucinations (not extreme ones) are very common in everyday life. After talking to a lot of people about how they get some interesting visual effects when they aren't high (and I myself get this) I began to think that this kind of stuff aren't the drugs doing, yet it is more that the person is much more aware of when there are changes in their vision because of drugs.
Many users of drugs are used to changes in their vision, be it objects looking different, the classic 2D effects, objects seeming to be bigger or smaller than they actually are, objects being blurred out, a greater sense of focus, ect, ect. Part of this is often people taking time to notice and look for changes in their vision, and although sometimes the effect may be subtle it is still noticed by the user.
So essentially what I'm saying is that many people who get visual type effects that they see sober aren't caused by taking the drugs at all because the person would normally get these kind of effects, but the fact that they have done drugs and tend to notice these types of differences allow them to see these effects that they got before using drugs.
Hope that made sense, tried to explain it well, I am going to assume someone has thought of this before and it's a common theory because nothing is original.[/QUOTE]
It makes sense, but I think there's more to it than us being more attentive to our vision.
I'd beg to differ, but of course I am going to. My friend described to me one day how he was staring the clock minutes before school ended and he noticed that his vision started to zoom in on the clock as if it was getting bigger. He thought it was pretty strange and thought that he should lay off the pot a bit. But I think that if you were to have him in the same exact situation except him never using drugs, I believe that his vision would do the same thing but he would not notice or recognize anything being different with his vision.
Of course there would be a line drawn somewhere, but I think minor distortions in perception are pretty common with people and that they simply don't recognize them. Just looking at how people can view themselves to be so different than they actually are makes me think that what we think we see is normal may be a distortion. Could be rambling now, so I'll end the ramble by saying that there really isn't any way to prove what I'm talking about as far as I can think, it's more just an idea.
If you were to go back in time and save someone from dying, would you simply vanish into thin air because you just erased the timeline you were originally from, or would you remain because you became a part of the timeline you just affected?
i thought about the whole "going back in time" thing before
when you're going forward in time, you're following a certain TRACK of time.
if you go back in time, you skip over to a new track, at an earlier time, and you change it from then on.
so you're always making new "timelines" when you go back in time
I thought a good bit about time travel and decided to actually think about what it would actually be. The first question I had was how could we tell the difference between different times. Obviously there would be some clue if we went back to prehistoric times, but still, there must be more to it.
I'm am going to say that time is related to the positions of all particles, as in what defines this very moment in time and makes it unique for any other moment is the position that every particle is in. According to the big bang, everything is moving out from that spot, thus there are no two unique moments in time.
Now if we were to time travel and go back to the dinosaur years what be different from our current time? Really, the only difference is that all of the elementary particles are positioned different.
So let's suppose that there is a device that can arrange all of the universe's particles at once and just so happen to know the position of all the particles at some unique state in the past. If the device were to work, the device would cause time travel. I'm making the argument that this would be time travel because there would be no ways to tell otherwise from observer's point of view.
Now to add even more to it, with this thought it would be possible to record all of the positions of a time traveler's particles at the very moment of time travel and take matter from the past and arrange it into the very same state in the new formed world. The person would be the same and he'd be back in whatever time he choose to travel to. An issue with this is that it wouldn't be exactly that moment in time, but it'd have to be like that because of the whole issue of matter cannot be destroyed or created. But anyway, to whoever was time traveling, it would appear like they were authentically in that unique period of time but they would have actually created a different unique state of time that just appears to be the same.
Now lets say that the device can has also recorded all the particle positions at the moment before time travel, well then that's a ticket home. But wait a second, let's say the go back and since it will be in the same exact state won't the person not remember at all that they traveled back in time and travel back in time creating an infinite loop? Well, that could be gotten around by changing that instance of time and changing the particles of the time traveler to be in the exact state as he is the very moment before traveling forward in time.
Now of course such a device could not ever exist and just about anything I just wrote would be impossible, I understand that, but if such means were possible this would be a method of time traveling that would be paradox free. Also no need for alternate timelines to make everything workout.
I wish we were as free in real life as we are on the internet.
[QUOTE=_Twitch_;24403637]i thought about the whole "going back in time" thing before
when you're going forward in time, you're following a certain TRACK of time.
if you go back in time, you skip over to a new track, at an earlier time, and you change it from then on.
so you're always making new "timelines" when you go back in time[/QUOTE]
This man just made time travel so much less of a threat for oneself.
[QUOTE=B-RAND;24405928]This man just made time travel so much less of a threat for oneself.[/QUOTE]
Watch the Butterfly Effect (not sure if this was the exact title.. but aston kutcher is in it.. its suprisingly good.)
[QUOTE=arthuro12;24406013]Watch the Butterfly Effect (not sure if this was the exact title.. but aston kutcher is in it.. its suprisingly good.)[/QUOTE]
i haven't seen the movie, but the actual "butterfly effect" is a pretty crazy thing. one tiny tiny thing can change EVERYTHING in the entire world. like me impulsively buying WoW 6 years ago caused me to meet certain people that sent my life in a whole new direction. just saying "hi" to some random person on the street could have a severe impact on your life. it's crazy.
[QUOTE=_Twitch_;24409582]i haven't seen the movie, but the actual "butterfly effect" is a pretty crazy thing. one tiny tiny thing can change EVERYTHING in the entire world. like me impulsively buying WoW 6 years ago caused me to meet certain people that sent my life in a whole new direction. just saying "hi" to some random person on the street could have a severe impact on your life. it's crazy.[/QUOTE]
Which is the basis of the movie, he writes journals about everything that happened, and he reads them; taking him back to the event, where he changes what went wrong then zips back forward to his later life to see the effect of the change. Great movie, best serious role Kutcher has ever played.
[QUOTE=B-RAND;24411192]Which is the basis of the movie, he writes journals about everything that happened, and he reads them; taking him back to the event, where he changes what went wrong then zips back forward to his later life to see the effect of the change. Great movie, best serious role Kutcher has ever played.[/QUOTE]
that sounds pretty awesome, i'll check it out
another movie that exemplifies the concept of the "butterfly effect" is Lola Rennt, a german movie about a couple who's having a financial problem and how one small change in exiting her apartment was the difference between life and death for her and her partner.
[QUOTE=B-RAND;24405928]This man just made time travel so much less of a threat for oneself.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=B-RAND;24411192]Which is the basis of the movie, he writes journals about everything that happened, and he reads them; taking him back to the event, where he changes what went wrong then zips back forward to his later life to see the effect of the change. Great movie, best serious role Kutcher has ever played.[/QUOTE]
And here we are blessed with a [b]very[/b] rare Brandon sighting, take a good long look boys and girls, you may never see him again...
[QUOTE=_Twitch_;24414294]another movie that exemplifies the concept of the "butterfly effect" is Lola Rennt, a german movie about a couple who's having a financial problem and how one small change in exiting her apartment was the difference between life and death for her and her partner.[/QUOTE]
that movie is utter shit.
[QUOTE=Kyle v2;24421310]And here we are blessed with a [B]very[/B] rare Brandon sighting, take a good long look boys and girls, you may never see him again...[/QUOTE]
I float from time to time, I was in a posting mood yesterday, Dubstep made my day..
[QUOTE=Lenni;24421652]that movie is utter shit.[/QUOTE]
we're not saying its good.. its just to make an example.
[QUOTE=arthuro12;24462338]we're not saying its good.. its just to make an example.[/QUOTE]
But still... every time the name of that movie is uttered, it should be in the same sentence as the word "shit". I mean, it's seriously bad. Really. Bad. Shit.
1. It's in German.
2. The characters are pale, ugly and boring.
3. It's a girl running. All the time. In a depressing city-environment.
4. Oh the animated cutscenes... It's like a horror movie for kids, like Squidward's suicide. Gives you nightmares.
5. Now all these things would be fine if they helped to convey an interesting message... But they don't. The point of the movie is made extremely uninteresting and dull by all of those things. You actually end up wishing that they'd just been shot and killed by the police and that the story ended there because you just want the characters to fuck off and die.
Edit: Nothing personal, I'm just trying to make sure no one here have to go through the horror of watching it.
People are very unaware, and I don't think they would choose to be aware if they could.
Ignorance is bliss.
Society raises us to follow in the last generation's footsteps, but in a slightly different manner.
Grow up, work, get married, reproduce, die.
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