• German Mayor Says Girls shouldnt "provoke" rapists
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[video=youtube;XdSsJQ-fvOU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdSsJQ-fvOU[/video] Old thread disappeared when Rumbler was banned. I have brought it back to continue the discussion on it.
loved their reaction to his answer, they were having none of that bullshit
Tell me if related. Is not one of the reasons for the immigration is to offset Europe's low birth rates? If it is, why not allow immigration of those who have proof of German (or any other EU nation) ancestry? I mean I have french, German, Irish, Hungarian. I am sure this is better then what going on now.
Literally every person from Germany and the Netherlands I've spoken to on the matter hate those immigrants coming in and being coddled while the actual citizens are treated like second class citizens. How big are democracies and votes over there? This may be the American in me talking, but why don't they take a poll from all the citizens of those countries and ask whether or not they want them or not? If the majority says yes, keep them. If the majority says no, ship them to Australia or Alberta.
love how the same publications that cry about rape culture in the west suddenly become quiet when refugees actually practice a rape culture
[QUOTE=gnampf;49665060]Literally every person from Germany and the Netherlands I've spoken to on the matter hate those immigrants coming in and being coddled while the actual citizens are treated like second class citizens. [/QUOTE] I'm not one of them, though I think there should be a set, concrete amount of refugees that we should take as for who thinks we should take in refugees and who doesn't, here in the Netherlands it's about half-half I think People here in the Netherlands complaining about how they're being treated as second class citizens has more to do with the retarded parties that are governing us right now than the refugees. The percentage of our government spendings on refugees is extremely small, it's our dumbass government that keeps cutting from shit like elderly care for no reason. EDIT: Hey, guys rating me dumb, reply please. I guess you guys know PRECISELY what the situation in the Netherlands is, despite not even living there???
Is this prick insinuating that it's their fault for being raped, then?
[QUOTE=Kylel999;49665318]Is this prick insinuating that it's their fault for being raped, then?[/QUOTE] IT sounds like he is, even if he doesn't mean to what a [B]DOUCHEBAG[/B] [editline]3rd February 2016[/editline] rape apologists are the worst kind of scum you could ?MAYBE? get away with being even so much as a murder apologist, but a rape apologist is another level of scummy
I got the impression that a lot of people seem to forget, that the biggest number of refugees aren't like that. Of course a lot of assholes will come over and are building groups and we should do something about that and bring them back to their countries. I also agree, that we should be more cautious about the people we let in but my biggest complaint about this whole situation is, that people seem to generalize and think that every refugee is a rapist and a beggar. If I couldn't live in my country anymore because it got bombed like crazy and need to live a life I don't want to, I would do the same. This whole situation got out of hand because people focus on the bad things and the good things don't have as much of an impact as the bad ones. We could do so many good things together but this easy thinking split up the sides. I spoke with refugees myself and they were always polite and were thankful when I helped them (even if I only showed them some directions). People that were angry as fuck about refugees didn't even try to deal with the situation and made blatant assumptions (some even thought that refugees ate a child in a kindergarten, like what the fuck). We need to to something about this asap and let the people live, that want to live a good life and fight against the people, that want to do harm.
It's good that the people aren't standing for these kinds of responses. Hopefully when their next elections roll around they'll elect someone with reasonable stances on this refugee situation. [sp]Also, I think the perma for Rumbler us dumb and that removing his threads are even dumber. He rarely flamed or shitposted as frequently as some of his opponents. He wasn't always right, but at least you could debate him. [/sp]
[QUOTE=JackDestiny;49665540]I got the impression that a lot of people seem to forget, that the biggest number of refugees aren't like that. Of course a lot of assholes will come over and are building groups and we should do something about that and bring them back to their countries. I also agree, that we should be more cautious about the people we let in but my biggest complaint about this whole situation is, that people seem to generalize and think that every refugee is a rapist and a beggar. If I couldn't live in my country anymore because it got bombed like crazy and need to live a life I don't want to, I would do the same. This whole situation got out of hand because people focus on the bad things and the good things don't have as much of an impact as the bad ones. We could do so many good things together but this easy thinking split up the sides. I spoke with refugees myself and they were always polite and were thankful when I helped them (even if I only showed them some directions). People that were angry as fuck about refugees didn't even try to deal with the situation and made blatant assumptions (some even thought that refugees ate a child in a kindergarten, like what the fuck). We need to to something about this asap and let the people live, that want to live a good life and fight against the people, that want to do harm.[/QUOTE] "not everyone is a rapist, therefore rape isn't an issue"
[QUOTE=Cabbage;49665578]"not everyone is a rapist, therefore rape isn't an issue"[/QUOTE] I explicitly stated that we should do something about it.
[QUOTE=Cabbage;49665578]"not everyone is a rapist, therefore rape isn't an issue"[/QUOTE] "an extreme minority are rapists, therefore we should treat all of them as rapists"
[QUOTE=DuCT;49665557]It's good that the people aren't standing for these kinds of responses. Hopefully when their next elections roll around they'll elect someone with reasonable stances on this refugee situation. [sp]Also, I think the perma for Rumbler us dumb and that removing his threads are even dumber. He rarely flamed or shitposted as frequently as some of his opponents. He wasn't always right, but at least you could debate him. [/sp][/QUOTE] I did see him talk alot about the issue in length. I believe his intent was to get people to do something about the concern and come up with an agreeable solution. The problem? It seem people are more inclined to shout down a person then address a problem, cause that would mean they would have to change, admit they may have been wrong about some things and put forth effort to come up with said solution, in accordance to their values. It seems only AFTER some violence and blood in the streets has occurred (with causalities on both sides), that people here ceased slinging the word "racist" around. Now they are coming up with ideas to deal with it in according to European liberal values. Some I actually like. Why didn't this happen before the shit hit the fan? I mean isn't more racist to refuse to acknowledge an upcoming problem and only change after the very people you claim to champion get hurt DUE TO YOUR REFUSAL TO ACKNOWLEDGE a situation instead of the other way around?
[QUOTE=JackDestiny;49665540]I got the impression that a lot of people seem to forget, that the biggest number of refugees aren't like that. Of course a lot of assholes will come over and are building groups and we should do something about that and bring them back to their countries. I also agree, that we should be more cautious about the people we let in but my biggest complaint about this whole situation is, that people seem to generalize and think that every refugee is a rapist and a beggar. If I couldn't live in my country anymore because it got bombed like crazy and need to live a life I don't want to, I would do the same. This whole situation got out of hand because people focus on the bad things and the good things don't have as much of an impact as the bad ones. We could do so many good things together but this easy thinking split up the sides. I spoke with refugees myself and they were always polite and were thankful when I helped them (even if I only showed them some directions). People that were angry as fuck about refugees didn't even try to deal with the situation and made blatant assumptions (some even thought that refugees ate a child in a kindergarten, like what the fuck). We need to to something about this asap and let the people live, that want to live a good life and fight against the people, that want to do harm.[/QUOTE] That's not the issue. The issue is the ones who [i]are[/i] going around committing crimes are more times than most being defended by higher ups who either blame it on their own citizens or avoid the discussions all together. It's like some guy inviting a friend over to stay at his house for a while and then they walk into the friend pissing on the walls and instead of confronting him about it he just blames his girlfriend for encouraging him to piss on their walls. Like the guy said at the end of the video, some of these people are getting away with crimes normal German citizens would be taken away for because some people in power are still afraid of coming off as racist. You're right, not all of them are rapists, but not all Germans or other white Europeans are rapists either. No shit.
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He didn't say Girls shouldn't provoke rapists. He said kids shouldn't provoke refugees harassing them from the windows of their housing. [editline]3rd February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Kylel999;49665318]Is this prick insinuating that it's their fault for being raped, then?[/QUOTE] Not speaking about rape. Like. At all.
I can't wait for BDA to ban everybody in this thread for "cannot function here" :/ [editline]3rd February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Killuah;49666748]He didn't say Girls shouldn't provoke rapists. He said kids shouldn't provoke refugees harassing them from the windows of their housing. [editline]3rd February 2016[/editline] Not speaking about rape. Like. At all.[/QUOTE] Lmao he says that girls should go onto another side of the street and stay away, not that they shouldnt harass them, as these girls have done nothing wrong Victim blaming, how fun
[QUOTE=gnampf;49665060]Literally every person from Germany and the Netherlands I've spoken to on the matter hate those immigrants coming in and being coddled while the actual citizens are treated like second class citizens. How big are democracies and votes over there? This may be the American in me talking, but why don't they take a poll from all the citizens of those countries and ask whether or not they want them or not? If the majority says yes, keep them. If the majority says no, ship them to Australia or Alberta.[/QUOTE] Left wing parties want to invite masses of refugees in an attempt to "out-tolerate" other parties and countries. Right wing parties just see droves of cheap unschooled labor five years down the line, so they quietly let the left have its way. Politicians all live in their ivory towers and personal Utopias. The last time they took a national poll and got an answer they didn't like, they just crumpled the results, threw them away and went through with their plans anyway. People have incredibly short-term memory, so people will vote in parties based on slogans and promises, which get tossed out the window once the party gets into parliament. People get mad for a while, but then they forget and four years later the exact same thing happens again.
[QUOTE=Billy-Bobfred;49667027]I can't wait for BDA to ban everybody in this thread for "cannot function here" :/ [editline]3rd February 2016[/editline] Lmao he says that girls should go onto another side of the street and stay away, not that they shouldnt harass them, as these girls have done nothing wrong Victim blaming, how fun[/QUOTE] dude "refugees harassing them" as in "refugees who are harassing them" And it's still not talking about rape
It is insane to see politicians just ignoring what their citizens are saying. This isn't democracy.
[QUOTE=mix999;49667494]It is insane to see politicians just ignoring what their citizens are saying. This isn't democracy.[/QUOTE] It actually is.
Absolutely horrible! I hope that this outrage remains when people declare women should know better before walking down dark alleys at night.
[QUOTE=Billy-Bobfred;49667027] Lmao he says that girls should go onto another side of the street and stay away, not that they shouldnt harass them, as these girls have done nothing wrong Victim blaming, how fun[/QUOTE] what the fuck he was just literally pointing out OP wrote fucking "rapists" in the thread title connecting it solely to refugees, when this isn't even mentioned in the video, and that's scummy as fuck OP using that in the title is trying denounce all migrants (what the video about, not even refugees - people fleeing from war) and just stirring unnecessary shit up. Look, there are almost 20 millions refugees worldwide - like [I][B]any population on earth[/B][/I] it is going to have it's fair share of rich people, poor people, artists, professors, students, robbers, drug dealers - fucking everyone. And not to mention lots of people undoubtedly suffering from any kind of PTSD fleeing from a fucking war. Who says every single refugee coming to a country is going to be a good person? If you can't count more than a handful of native idiots from your own country you are bloody blind. I know so many Swedish people who aren't immigrants that are complete fucking nutjobs, rapists, fuck-all. I'm not excusing any kind of action that is against the law - everyone should be punished by the law as equals; otherwise you don't have an actual just law. How are we going to conclude and investigate every single migrant and decide if they are going to be come a problem or not? Oh another thing - just turning the troublesome people away and deporting them isn't going to make them disappear (like making begging for/giving money illegal). They are just going to relocate some where else and make that next place a worse time for someone, or in case of being a beggar - keep on suffering. Is it not better we help that person in any way we can to perhaps (maybe for the first time for some people) introduce those individuals to a society which helps you on the way to become a productive member of society? These people aren't simple "mules", they aren't parasites; they have thoughts and feelings of hate, love, desperation, fun, sadness like any of us. They have (imagine any country without it's extreme share of past immigration), can, and will, contribute to society in many ways.
Huh. Shocker, last time I checked. The old guy asked about rapists not refugees in General. He asked "what will happen when the clothes get shorter in summer" specifically referring to rapists, and the mayor said "dont provoke them"
[QUOTE=EdvardSchnitz;49667680]Huh. Shocker, last time I checked. The old guy asked about rapists not refugees in General. He asked "what will happen when the clothes get shorter in summer" specifically referring to rapists, and the mayor said "dont provoke them"[/QUOTE] Watch your own video though if you are going to use it against me [quote][I]Grandfather: I have a question regarding the school. Mayor: Yes Grandfather: About physical education in the school gym - My granddaughter, she's under 10 - and it also happened in a nearby town - (that's right!) the girls have been harassed by the refugee "children" (nice quotation marks) ... The asylum seekers... and [B]they get harassed from the windows (of the shelter) and things like that[/B] How will this be in the summer? When the school girls wear less clothing?"[/I][/quote] Being harassed from the windows of the shelter "and things like that" isn't exactly the definition of [I]actual rape[/I]. Reading anything more into that is automatically assuming they are rapists. Look, I'm not even going to argue that that is fucking inexcusable behavior either way, rape or harassment, and should be dealt with as such. [editline]4th February 2016[/editline] EdvardSchnitz you are also welcome to justify putting "rapists" in that title when you find actual statistics that a majority of refugees commit rape in your own country. Good luck, you are going to be looking at your own country's "native" face. [del]And I'm not going to take anything related to this subject seriously coming from anyone cosplaying as a fucking nazi on the internet lmao. I don't care if it is a "lifestyle" or a "cool thing" it just seriously degrades any of your argument about this shit.[/del] [QUOTE=EdvardSchnitz;49667793]"nazi" Last time I checked, the Nationale Volksarmee worked for the exact opposite of the nazis, of course, feel free to insult me some more by using your knowledge (or lack of) instead of behaving like a rational human here.[/QUOTE] I was totally wrong about the nazi thing though and very prejudiced towards germany, sorry bout that
[QUOTE=Mooe94;49667766]. [editline]4th February 2016[/editline] EdvardSchnitz you are also welcome to justify putting "rapists" in that title when you find actual statistics that a majority of refugees commit rape in your own country. Good luck, you are going to be looking at your own country's "native" face. And I'm not going to take anything related to this subject seriously coming from anyone cosplaying as a fucking nazi on the internet lmao. I don't care if it is a "lifestyle" or a "cool thing" it just seriously degrades any of your argument about this shit.[/QUOTE] "nazi" Last time I checked, the Nationale Volksarmee worked for the exact opposite of the nazis, of course, feel free to insult me some more by using your knowledge (or lack of) instead of behaving like a rational human here.
[QUOTE=EdvardSchnitz;49667793]"nazi" Last time I checked, the Nationale Volksarmee worked for the exact opposite of the nazis, of course, feel free to insult me some more by using your knowledge (or lack of) instead of behaving like a rational human here.[/QUOTE] Shit yea you're right though about that, my bad :) feel free to rate me dumb for that or whatever but I want my other arguments discussed
[QUOTE=Mooe94;49667846]Shit yea you're right though about that, my bad :) feel free to rate me dumb for that or whatever but I want my other arguments discussed[/QUOTE] Well, my reasoning for putting rapist in the title was not to refer to all refugees as rapist. Only an idiot would assume so. However, the man was simply showing concern over people who happened to the refugees in a center harassing girls their age from the windows of the facility, and when he asked what would happen if they started attempting to rape them The Mayor said don't provoke said people. Even though the girls are just walking to school. What the mayor said was unacceptable
[QUOTE=EdvardSchnitz;49667680]Huh. Shocker, last time I checked. The old guy asked about rapists not refugees in General. He asked "what will happen when the clothes get shorter in summer" specifically referring to rapists, and the mayor said "dont provoke them"[/QUOTE] Check again please there is not a single mention of "rapist" in the video. [editline]4th February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=EdvardSchnitz;49667864]Well, my reasoning for putting rapist in the title was not to refer to all refugees as rapist. Only an idiot would assume so. However, the man was simply showing concern over people who happened to the refugees in a center harassing girls their age from the windows of the facility, and when he asked what would happen if they started attempting to rape them [/QUOTE] Didn't ask that though.
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