David Cameron tricked into signing cannabis legalisation petion by teenager. - Polidicks

[quote=http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/tv/news/2011/04/11/david-cameron-and-george-osborne-duped-into-signing-pro-cannabis-petition-by-jamie-s-dream-school-pupils-115875-23052530/]DAVID Cameron and George Osborne have been tricked into signing a petition to legalise cannabis. Children from Channel 4 show Jamie’s Dream School hoodwinked the gullible pair after former Labour spin king Alastair Campbell got them some time with the PM. Mr Cameron told Henry Gatehouse, 17, cannabis causes health problems then signed a folded piece of paper Henry gave him without reading it. Henry then unfolded the paper and held it out to the camera to reveal it was a petition he was starting. He said: “I did get them all to sign my cannabis legalisation notes, so I am just going to put ‘agreed by’.” The show, to be shown on Wednesday at 9pm, also showed Mr Campbell slamming the Tories. As Mr Osborne signed autographs, he told the children: “This guy is taking your benefits.”[/quote] source:[url]http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/tv/news/2011/04/11/david-cameron-and-george-osborne-duped-into-signing-pro-cannabis-petition-by-jamie-s-dream-school-pupils-115875-23052530/[/url] A pretty amazing feat. He was my favorite person in the series, as well. But can we really trust people who don't read what they're signing to run the country?

That guy is awesome, he's a hero to the british people.

Because of David's word pot is now legal.

I don't think signatures count in this case.

It well damn should count.

[QUOTE=Maximo13;29297904]It well damn should count.[/QUOTE] no it shouldn't

[QUOTE=Sanius;29297916]no it shouldn't[/QUOTE] It shouldn't count, but it really shows how easy it was to trick the man [I]running the country.[/I]

Cameron you plonker! The turtle on my head condemns you to a slapping for being such a dense fuck.

Reminds me of that kid who got Justin Beiber to sign his paper that clearly stated he was a fag.

[QUOTE=Maximo13;29297904]It well damn should count.[/QUOTE] Why should it? If someone handed you a seemingly blank piece of paper, and you signed it, then you found out that it was a contractual agreement that you owe that person 50,000 dollars... what would you say?

[QUOTE=Shibbey;29297772]That guy is awesome, he's a hero to the british people.[/QUOTE] Truly, he is. :420:

[QUOTE=Shiftyze;29298035]Reminds me of that kid who got Justin Beiber to sign his paper that clearly stated he was a fag.[/QUOTE] *cunt

I reckon the trouble with reforms on drugs laws isn't that politicians believe them to be a bad idea, but politicians would fear the media backlash even if they spoke sense about drugs. Just look how the sun reacted when new sentencing guidelines were merely proposed: [url]http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3496327/Judges-No-jail-for-dealers-caught-with-50-heroin-wraps.html[/url] I really don't think the problem is with politicians (I bet there are a fair amount of them smoke pot and snort coke) but what they believe to be the media reaction.

Cameron hasn't got the minerals to touch any drug stronger than paracetamol :colbert:

[QUOTE=Doozle;29298332]I reckon the trouble with reforms on drugs laws isn't that politicians believe them to be a bad idea, but politicians would fear the media backlash even if they spoke sense about drugs. Just look how the sun reacted when new sentencing guidelines were merely proposed: [url]http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3496327/Judges-No-jail-for-dealers-caught-with-50-heroin-wraps.html[/url] I really don't think the problem is with politicians (I bet there are a fair amount of them smoke pot and snort coke) but what they believe to be the media reaction.[/QUOTE] Problem is the same guys who own Fox News own The Sun and Sky News. So I guess thats your reason, companies with agenda's in the means of profiteering by some means or another.

[QUOTE=Shiftyze;29298035]Reminds me of that kid who got Justin Beiber to sign his paper that clearly stated he was a fag.[/QUOTE] Someone dig that thread up, it was amazing. [QUOTE=Rolond Returns;29298282]Truly, he is. :420:[/QUOTE] :350:

[QUOTE=Sanius;29297916]no it shouldn't[/QUOTE] Why not? If a civilian signs something without reading it they're legally required to follow through, why does this guy get an exception? A politician should know more than anybody that you don't blindly sign ANYTHING. [editline]19th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Master117;29298040]Why should it? If someone handed you a seemingly blank piece of paper, and you signed it, then you found out that it was a contractual agreement that you owe that person 50,000 dollars... what would you say?[/QUOTE] If they take it to court your signature on the paper could be enough to make anything you say irrelevant. Signing a contract is signing a contract.

[QUOTE=CjienX;29298523]Why not? If a civilian signs something without reading it they're legally required to follow through, why does this guy get an exception? A politician should know more than anybody that you don't blindly sign ANYTHING. [editline]19th April 2011[/editline] If they take it to court your signature on the paper could be enough to make anything you say irrelevant. Signing a contract is signing a contract.[/QUOTE] No, tricking someone into signing a document is illegal.

[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;29298560]No, tricking someone into signing a document is illegal.[/QUOTE] [quote]Mr Cameron told Henry Gatehouse, 17, cannabis causes health problems then signed a folded piece of paper Henry gave him without reading it. [/quote] He wasn't held at gunpoint and forced to sign it, had he just opened it before signing it there wouldn't have been a problem.

[QUOTE=CjienX;29298523]Why not? If a civilian signs something without reading it they're legally required to follow through, why does this guy get an exception? A politician should know more than anybody that you don't blindly sign ANYTHING.[/quote] That only really applies to contracts, this is a petition. Even so, if its been proven you falsely signed the piece of paper then you don't have to follow out what a contract says. Under British law anyway. [quote]If they take it to court your signature on the paper could be enough to make anything you say irrelevant. Signing a contract is signing a contract.[/QUOTE] Yeah except its not a contract.

[QUOTE=Vasili;29298598]That only really applies to contracts, this is a petition. Even so, if its been proven you falsely signed the piece of paper then you don't have to follow out what a contract says. Under British law anyway.[/quote] How can it be proven that he falsely signed it? According to the article there was a camera in the room which means there's footage of him being handed the paper, NOT READING IT, and then signing it. [quote]Yeah except its not a contract.[/QUOTE] No shit sherlock, HE was talking about a contract.

[QUOTE=CjienX;29298576]He wasn't held at gunpoint and forced to sign it, had he just opened it before signing it there wouldn't have been a problem.[/QUOTE] He wasn't told what he was signing, in order for a document to be legal, both parties need to know what's in said document. Not reading it, on Cameron's part, would also shoot it down.

[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;29298639]He wasn't told what he was signing, in order for a document to be legal, both parties need to know what's in said document. Not reading it, on Cameron's part, would also shoot it down.[/QUOTE] Again, unless something was done to prevent him from reading it, it's completely legal. You can't just nullify a document because you were too stupid to read it before you signed it. By being handed the document, he was being offered a chance to unfold it and see what it said, but he chose not to.

[QUOTE=CjienX;29298523]Why not? If a civilian signs something without reading it they're legally required to follow through, why does this guy get an exception? A politician should know more than anybody that you don't blindly sign ANYTHING. [/QUOTE] Brb, tricking someone into legalizing slavery.

Typical Alastair, absolutely typical of him. That's why I love and despise him.

[QUOTE=Mingebox;29298713]Brb, tricking someone into legalizing slavery.[/QUOTE] If you sign a legal document, it is assume that you have read it. But the contract can be declared void by a court if it is unreasonable, which slavery clearly is. [editline]20th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;29298639]He wasn't told what he was signing, in order for a document to be legal, both parties need to know what's in said document. Not reading it, on Cameron's part, would also shoot it down.[/QUOTE] As long as it something that a reasonable person would understand has legal obligations within, or they are told so, it is binding. You don't need to read it, as long as you sign it. I'd cite the common law but I'm tired at the moment and can't remember it. [editline]20th April 2011[/editline] However, as it is an informal contract, and the teenager offered no consideration (basically, suffered no burden, say, giving money to Cameron, or agreeing to do something for him), it is not legally binding. There was also not an intention for it to be legally binding on Cameron's part, so no contract was formed.

[QUOTE=CjienX;29298627]How can it be proven that he falsely signed it? According to the article there was a camera in the room which means there's footage of him being handed the paper, NOT READING IT, and then signing it.[/quote] He's a PM, he was likely signing what he thought was an autograph. You would be surprised how many people do shit like this with famous or important people to manipulate them with 'contract' shit, that is why there are laws against it. [quote]No shit sherlock, HE was talking about a contract.[/QUOTE] Okay, but he signed a petition.

[QUOTE=Contag;29298883]If you sign a legal document, it is assume that you have read it. But the contract can be declared void by a court if it is unreasonable, which slavery clearly is. [/QUOTE] Okay then, how about one outlawing Alcohol? Or maybe making it illegal for stores to sell M-rated video games? Oh, but that would some [I]you're [/I]against! That's [I]different[/I]! After all, everyone knows that tricking someone into signing something is only valid if it's something that Facepunchers would want!

Wednesday? That's 420!

[QUOTE=Mingebox;29298957]Okay then, how about one outlawing Alcohol? Or maybe making it illegal for stores to sell M-rated video games? Oh, but that would some [I]you're [/I]against! That's [I]different[/I]! After all, everyone knows that tricking someone into signing something is only valid if it's something that Facepunchers would want![/QUOTE] I like how you're putting words in our mouths to make yourself seem less stupid