Berlin attack suspect Anis Amri had been on watchlist since January and arrested before - Polidicks

[quote]Anis Amri, the main suspect in the Berlin Christmas market attack, had been under the watch of Germany’s Centre for Terror Defence (GTAZ) since January as someone deemed a threat to public safety because of his links to the Islamic radical scene and his apparent readiness to carry out an attack, security sources have told the German media. Sources involved in the investigation into Monday’s crash say Amri’s telecommunications had been monitored by German security agencies. It is understood that he was arrested once this summer in Berlin but there was not enough evidence to hold him. The interior ministry select committee said Amri’s name had last been raised within the GTAZ – a cooperation and communication platform for police and security agencies – as recently as last month, according to the Süddeutsche Zeitung. Inevitably, questions are being asked as to how Amri – who arrived in Germany in July 2015 and applied for asylum in April – was able to hide in plain sight of the authorities for so long. His asylum application was turned down by German authorities in consultation with security agencies. Amri regularly changed his place of abode, shuttling between the state of North Rhine-Westphalia and Berlin, where he had mainly been living since February. North Rhine-Westphalia’s interior minister, Ralf Jäger, said he was “highly mobile”. The Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA) has put up a €100,000 bounty for Amri’s capture and said he could be armed and dangerous. It described him as 178cm tall, around 75kg, with black hair and brown eyes. Born in Tunisia in 1992, Amri has used six different aliases and posed as a citizen of two other countries – Egypt and Lebanon. He came to the attention of German authorities because of his links with the radical Salafist Abu Walaa, alias Ahmad Abdulaziz Abdullah A, a 32-year-old Iraqi Isis supporter known as the “preacher without a face”, who was arrested in the northern town of Hildesheim in November. Amri also had contact with a known Turkish Islamic fundamentalist, Hasan C, 50, who worked in a travel agency in Duisburg-Reinhausen where he is believed to have radicalised young Muslims, and with Boban S, a hate preacher from Dortmund. In July, Amri was involved in a knife attack in a row over drugs. He went underground when police tried to question him. According to an anti-terror investigator speaking on condition of anonymity to German media, Amri had sought accomplices for a terror attack in early 2016, and had shown an interest in weapons. Despite authorities being made aware that he wanted to buy a pistol, there were apparently no attempts to take him into custody. Another investigator told German media it was believed he might have been planning an attack in Germany, “but apparently there was not enough evidence to arrest him”. In Tunisia he is reported to have been arrested several times for drug abuse. His family said they were shocked by the news that Amri was the main suspect in the Berlin attack. “When I saw the picture of my brother in the media, I couldn’t believe my eyes. I’m in shock, and can’t believe it’s him who committed this crime,” his brother Abdelkader Amri told AFP. “But if he’s guilty, he deserves every condemnation. We reject terrorism and terrorists – we have no dealings with terrorists,” he said.[/quote] Very long article [url]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/21/berlin-attack-suspect-anis-amri-under-monitoring-since-january[/url]

[QUOTE=Cructo;51564285]they should've got rid of him a lot sooner but i guess it's racist to deport illegal immigrants[/QUOTE] [QUOTE][B]Amri was due to have been deported before the end of the year.[/B][/QUOTE] They were going to, nowhere did anyone suggest it is racist to deport them

[QUOTE=Cructo;51564285]they should've got rid of him a lot sooner but i guess it's racist to deport illegal immigrants[/QUOTE] You said in your quote that he was being deported. Did you even read your own quote? [editline]21st December 2016[/editline] Seems to be a bit of a theme that the people who do these things are known to police and security services. Hopefully they will learn from this and be more proactive in future and if someone is deemed a threat to the public or due for deportation then they ought to be kept in sight.

What a colossal fuck up on Germany's part.

[QUOTE=-nesto-;51564372]What a colossal fuck up on Germany's part.[/QUOTE] Oh it gets better. There even was an undercover agent in the salafistic group he was part of.

[quote]authorities were unable to deport him because he did not possess the right documentation.[/quote] The authorities need him to possess documentation to be able to be deported. Wtf, Am I missing something?

[QUOTE=Cyberdan;51564307]They were going to, nowhere did anyone suggest it is racist to deport them[/QUOTE] Then lock them up until deportation, they're a safety risk.

[QUOTE=Cyberdan;51564307]They were going to, nowhere did anyone suggest it is racist to deport them[/QUOTE] Germany has over 200 thousand illegals that have to be deported over many years now. The process is very long and most of them sue the state to overwhelm the justice system and enlong they stay in germany as long as they can. [editline]22nd December 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=!LORD M!;51564755]Then lock them up until deportation, they're a safety risk.[/QUOTE] I wish they would, but they don't. [editline]22nd December 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Araknid;51564754]The authorities need him to possess documentation to be able to be deported. Wtf, Am I missing something?[/QUOTE] No you don't. If you are to be deported, just throw away your documentation and you can stay in. Bonus points for sueing the state and do as much damage as you can to the german people.

[QUOTE=Araknid;51564754]The authorities need him to possess documentation to be able to be deported. Wtf, Am I missing something?[/QUOTE] They're German. They need paperwork for anything and everything. A nation built on bureaucracy.

[QUOTE=Ridge;51565560]They're German. They need paperwork for anything and everything. A nation built on bureaucracy.[/QUOTE] I don't see how that's a problem. Especially since Germany is in a fantastic position today.

[QUOTE=CarnolfMeatla;51564805]Germany has over 200 thousand illegals that have to be deported over many years now.[/QUOTE] Maybe they should have thought of that before opening the gates? Now we have families 4 days from Christmas who will never see their loved ones again.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51565700]Maybe they should have thought of that before opening the gates? Now we have families 4 days from Christmas who will never see their loved ones again.[/QUOTE] Youre right they should have sent the whole lot back to war torn countries to be bombed instead. German lives are definitely more equal then Middle Eastern lives.

At this point it -Dont forget the BND also knew something about the French/Belgium attacks- it seems like the German authorities are just in for the lulz. The last thing we need to hear is something akin to the Rotterdam scandals "No we didnt want to touch them because they are muslims and that could be seen as racist" Btw, how the can you become an islamist being an officer of the BND? Idk, at least if you want some adventure sell your soul to the SVR but not to the fucking islamists ffs.

[QUOTE=Dolton;51565758]German lives are definitely more equal then Middle Eastern lives.[/QUOTE] They are. Putting the well being of foreigners above your own citizenry is incredibly stupid.

[QUOTE=Dolton;51565758]Youre right they should have sent the whole lot back to war torn countries to be bombed instead. German lives are definitely more equal then Middle Eastern lives.[/QUOTE] Just because people are dying somewhere else doesn't mean people need to die in our countries too. So when you import people from a war zone, you have to make sure you aren't importing the fucking warriors. Furthermore, if you do find out you have a killer on your hands, detain and hold him, as you would your own criminal citizens.

[QUOTE=Dolton;51565758]Youre right they should have sent the whole lot back to war torn countries to be bombed instead. German lives are definitely more equal then Middle Eastern lives.[/QUOTE] In germany, people that are here illlegally and have to be deported are from save countries where there is no war. You know, there are people here that are just here for the free money. Which is why people have gone through 4-7 safe countries with no war just to get the welfare check in germany.

[QUOTE=Araknid;51564754]The authorities need him to possess documentation to be able to be deported. Wtf, Am I missing something?[/QUOTE] I assume it's referring to documentation showing where he came from. They probably can't just kick people out of the country, they have to send them [i]somewhere[/i], but without paperwork they won't know where.

[QUOTE=Zang-Pog;51565872]A country that places the needs of its citizens below refugees from other countries is a shit country. This whole refugee situation is stupid and will not solve anything. As long as the countries these people flee from continue being wartorn hellholes we will have this problem and the only way to solve it is to rebuild these places instead of relocating the entire population somewhere else[/QUOTE] Can't really rebuild those countries if their citizens are all dying because they can't get out though, now can you? And the lives of Germans aren't being placed below refugees simply because the refugees aren't being send straight to the slaughterhouse, that's just stupid to say. The solution is to relocate the population, and to rebuild the countries and stop them from being so fucked up. How exactly to carry this out can certainly be asked, but you're not going to be able to fix it without having these refugees.

[QUOTE=Zang-Pog;51566000]Shouldn't the rest of the world step in and help them in their countries instead of moving massive amounts of people back and forth? What's stopping people from building refugee camps and such in their countries and provide them with help there while the people causing the pain and suffering are stomped out. All of this speak of wanting to help the people in need seems really silly when these same people aren't ready to commit to that help, this isn't something that'll just go away in time as it's been getting worse and worse while most people ignore the existance of these problems completely[/QUOTE] don't really know what you'd be expecting me to say here. Yeah, the world should step in and help, but you can only do so much in a fucking war zone or conflict area. What's stopping people from building camps in these fucked up countries? I don't know, maybe the fact that the countries and kind of pretty devastated by conflict, lack funds, have multi-sided conflicts, etc. (And in many cases, there are camps, though, due to the previously mentioned problems, they have limited capabilities.)

[QUOTE=CarnolfMeatla;51565861]In germany, people that are here illlegally and have to be deported are from save countries where there is no war. You know, there are people here that are just here for the free money.[/QUOTE] Well, at least safe-ish and with mostly no war, going by some recent decisions iinm. Generally speaking this is true though, in that people aren't scheduled to be deported back to their home country if they come from a war zone. The only exception where someone from a war zone can be deported is if they're already registered as refugee in another EU country, and then only to there and not further. [QUOTE]Which is why people have gone through 4-7 safe countries with no war just to get the welfare check in germany.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't say it's the only reason for that occurring, since the conditions in some other EU countries aren't exactly good and you can travel through those somewhat quickly to here if you use a vehicle. (It's also possible to reach Germany directly via plane, even if that's not as common.) As far as I know, there are relatively few people arriving now that the previously open land routes are mostly closed and refugees are arrested and registered in the first EU countries they arrive in again.