Anti-Semitic White-Nationalist Stephen Bannon Co-Wrote Trump's Inauguration Speech
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[URL="http://www.mediaite.com/online/white-house-concedes-that-steve-bannon-and-stephen-miller-wrote-much-of-trumps-speech/"]http://www.mediaite.com/online/white-house-concedes-that-steve-bannon-and-stephen-miller-wrote-much-of-trumps-speech/[/URL] which sources the next article:
[url]http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-strikes-nationalistic-tone-in-inaugural-speech-1484957527?tesla=y&mod=e2tw[/url][URL="http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-strikes-nationalistic-tone-in-inaugural-speech-1484957527?tesla=y&mod=e2tw"]http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-strikes-nationalistic-tone-in-inaugural-speech-1484957527?tesla=y&mod=e2tw[/URL]
[URL="https://thinkprogress.org/trump-did-not-write-inaugural-address-despite-saying-he-did-3d2e50b55709#.8t2iw9dkb"]https://thinkprogress.org/trump-did-not-write-inaugural-address-despite-saying-he-did-3d2e50b55709#.8t2iw9dkb[/URL]
From ThinkProgress:
[QUOTE]On Wednesday, then-President-elect Donald Trump posted a photo he claimed captured him in the act of writing his inaugural address. But the Wall Street Journal reports his contributions were minimal at best.
“Much of the speech was written by Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon, two of Mr. Trump’s top advisers,” the Journal reports, citing a White House official.
Politico reports that Miller, senior White House adviser for policy, wrote most of the prepared speeches Trump delivered last year, including his keynote address at the Republican National Convention. That speech, like the inaugural address, painted a dire picture of an America besieged by threats within and without, with Trump presenting himself as the only hope for salvation.
“I alone can fix it,” Trump said at the RNC.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]During his inaugural address, Trump said “America First” is the “new vision [that] will govern the land.” The phrase “America First” was popularized by a 1940s isolationist, anti-Semitic group that opposed America’s entry into World War II. Bannon’s ex-wife accused him of anti-Semitism.
The closing ad of Trump’s campaign — presumably edited under the aegis of Bannon, who was Trump’s campaign CEO — included dog-whistles about “blood suckers” who back international trade, a scheming “global power structure,” and warnings about how Hillary Clinton allegedly “meets in secret with international banks to plot the destruction of U.S. sovereignty.” These comments drew a rebuke from the the Anti-Defamation League for featuring “tropes that historically have been used against Jews.”
Trump’s “America First” comments also served as a warning to foreign governments that U.S. policy is moving in an isolationist direction.[/QUOTE]
Maybe that political commentator's description of Trump's inaugural speech as "Hitlerian" isn't so smarmy and hyperbolic now. Bring on the mental gymnastics.
Our president is giving speeches written by Nazis. Welcome to America 2017.
Can someone catch me up to speed on who Stephen Bannon is and why he's bad?
His speech had me wondering if the Bane quote in there was intentional lol.
[QUOTE=Pascall;51711292]His speech had me wondering if the Bane quote in there was intentional lol.[/QUOTE]
It wasnt the same, the wording was just similar. Humorously similar but i think it was just a coincidence.
Funny, 'cause Trump posted a photo of himself claiming to be writing his own speech. For anyone who doesn't know, Steve Bannon is your new senior white house adviser, and the CEO of the white supremacist propaganda website, Breitbart.
It's hardly a wonder the speech was in a similar tone to the speeches given by fascist leaders throughout history - painting a patently false picture of a country in trouble, with your new Orange-in-chief as the only person who can fix it.
[QUOTE=archangel125;51711312]Steve Bannon is your new senior white house adviser, and the CEO of the white supremacist propaganda website, Breitbart.[/QUOTE]
Oh.
Oooh.
Ew.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;51711288]Can someone catch me up to speed on who Stephen Bannon is and why he's bad?[/QUOTE]
founding member and brief ceo of breitbart before accepting a position in the trump administration. accusations of him being racist, xenophobic, anti-semitic, the usual jargon, come from the fact that he identifies as a far-right conservative, lets breitbart publish all their ridiculous shit, and had supposedly not wanted to send his kids to some school because there were jews. turns out that last bit was bullshit, and he sent his kids to that school.
[QUOTE=Pops;51711321]founding member and brief ceo of breitbart before accepting a position in the trump administration. accusations of him being racist, xenophobic, anti-semitic, the usual jargon, come from the fact that he identifies as a far-right conservative, lets breitbart publish all their ridiculous shit, and had supposedly not wanted to send his kids to some school because there were jews. turns out that last bit was bullshit, and he sent his kids to that school.[/QUOTE]
so is he a racist, xenophobic anti-semite or not?
is it slander or is it founded?
[QUOTE=Zombinie;51711327]so is he a racist, xenophobic anti-semite or not?
is it slander or is it founded?[/QUOTE]
Guy runs a white supremacist website. Doesn't take a rocket scientist.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;51711288]Can someone catch me up to speed on who Stephen Bannon is and why he's bad?[/QUOTE]
Iirc, he's the executive chairman of Breitbart News. Glenn Beck even called him nuts.
Also, I'm pretty sure everyone here can agree that he makes absolutely awful films/documentaries. Like, really bad.
:snip: I think i get it now.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;51711288]Can someone catch me up to speed on who Stephen Bannon is and why he's bad?[/QUOTE]
Are you familiar with Breitbart? He's associated with their leadership. Sexist, racist, far right propaganda machine.
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breitbart_News#Notable_Stories[/url]
[QUOTE=Zombinie;51711327]so is he a racist, xenophobic anti-semite or not?
is it slander or is it founded?[/QUOTE]
Guy owns and runs a white supremacist website that makes up news to spread fear about anyone who isn't white or American. Doesn't take a rocket scientist.
[QUOTE=Zombinie;51711327]so is he a racist, xenophobic anti-semite or not?
is it slander or is it founded?[/QUOTE]
From what I've seen, the claims of him being all those things comes from the fact that he worked with Breitbart, not things he's actually done. I know a lot of Jewish leaders came to his defense when they were calling him anti-semitic because he's actually gone out of his way to attack true anti-semites.
Also don't ignore that the OP's actual quotes are from ThinkProgress, an unapologetically leftist blog.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;51711294]It wasnt the same, the wording was just similar. Humorously similar but i think it was just a coincidence.[/QUOTE]
Bannon was the head and one of the founders of Breitbart, the notorious self-described Alt-Right media organization that has risen to prominence as an alternative to mainstream media.
He's a self-proclaimed White Supremacist, American Ultra-Nationalist, and Anti-Semite (I'll let you make your own judgement if that hat-trick makes him a Nazi or not, since I'm not personally sold on that particular argument.) You can source those statements plenty easily, because they're well recorded by-and-large.
He was pulled in to Trump's campaign at it's low point, and made it's executive media manager, and has ridden on the rewards of victory.
So, the meme part.
Breitbart, as a primarilly 'net based platform, has show incredible familiarity at every level of staff with memes, their meaning, their application, how to form them, and how to guide them.
To imply that the former head of such an organization did not intentionally insert such memes, particularly in such a short speech, with [I]so many[/I] of them being quite literally verbatim, seems naive.
Combine this finally with an alleged Nazi/Fascist tactic called, "dog whistling," that is, inserting innocuous non-statements in to certain speeches like, "I love green fields and blue skies," that are easily recognizable by your 'base' (that is, other Nazis and Fascists) in order to signal unity without making any overt or controversial claims. That is, by sending out a signal inaudible to those who are not 'tuned in,' like a Dog Whistle, you can signal your loyalties without exposing them.
Your mileage may vary on that one, and I only willfully accept it if I'm allowed to willfully accept it's Socialist/Liberal counterpart the so-called, "Frankfurt School Conspiracy."
[QUOTE=Crazy Ivan;51711361]He's a self-proclaimed White Supremacist, American Ultra-Nationalist, and Anti-Semite (I'll let you make your own judgement if that hat-trick makes him a Nazi or not, since I'm not personally sold on that particular argument.) You can source those statements plenty easily, because they're well recorded by-and-large.[/QUOTE]
Can you cite these claims please?
Can we please stop calling Steve Bannon a Nazi?
The only thing people have on him is his association of Breibart and a statement his ex-wife made during their divorce that basically said, "I don't want to send my kids to this private school cause they have too many whiny jews." Ultimately he didn't seem to take his own advice seriously that his wife accused him of because his kids ended up going to that school. Also it doesn't look good for the ex-wife's accusations when she didn't even show up to court on an abuse charge she levied on him.
Now let's look at this critically. Steve Bannon runs Breibart. A news organization that was started by a jew, has several jewish employees, like the former Ben Shapiro and active Milo/Joel Pollak, has never made a statement personally that shows any anti-Semitic comments, and is under appointment of a President that has jews in his cabinet/his daughter is married to an orthodox jew.
Also Ben Shapiro HATES Steve Bannon with what he did with Breibart, but even he has said multiple times he is not anti-Semitic.
[url]http://www.dailywire.com/news/10770/3-thoughts-steve-bannon-white-house-chief-ben-shapiro[/url]
Just give it a fair shake and look it up yourself. I don't care you hate Breibart, but the evidence heavily leans against a anti-Semitic label.
[QUOTE=sgman91;51711343]From what I've seen, the claims of him being all those things comes from the fact that he worked with Breitbart, not things he's actually done. I know a lot of Jewish leaders came to his defense when they were calling him anti-semitic because he's actually gone out of his way to attack true anti-semites.
Also don't ignore that the OP's actual quotes are from ThinkProgress, an unapologetically leftist blog.[/QUOTE]
"Worked with".
"CEO".
You'll win America the gold at the next Olympics, sgman. You've got what it takes more than almost anyone on this site, save maybe Cructo. The only question is whether your event will be the mental still rings, the mental high vault, the mental pommel horse, or the mental balance bar.
[QUOTE=archangel125;51711376]"Worked with".
"CEO".
You'll win America the gold at the next Olympics, sgman. You've got what it takes more than almost anyone on this site, save maybe Cructo. The only question is whether your event will be the mental still rings, the mental high vault, the mental pommel horse, or the mental balance bar.[/QUOTE]
Is being one of it's heads not working with them? How about you actually address the argument instead of playing semantics?
Even Alan Dershowitz, a Jew who stands pretty far to the left, defended Brannon from claims of anti-semitism
[QUOTE=archangel125;51711376]"Worked with".
"CEO".
You'll win America the gold at the next Olympics, sgman. You've got what it takes more than almost anyone on this site, save maybe Cructo. The only question is whether your event will be the mental still rings, the mental high vault, the mental pommel horse, or the mental balance bar.[/QUOTE]
i'm waiting on you to back up these claims tbh
My argument is that it's pointless to be an apologist for a man who was the chief executive officer of a white supremacist site - unless you're a sympathizer, which I begin to suspect more and more with every passing day.
He decided the sorts of stories they ran. They reflect, therefore, his views.
I've noticed something about you, sgman. The things you choose to argue on this site. Trump's connections to racist groups - the Ferguson municipal corruption, etc. It seems so often to boil down to being an apologist for bigotry - not merely correcting overzealous bandwagoning against Trump when unwarranted, or arguing against the spread of leftist misinformation. No, issues like the one in this thread are strangely important to you - I'm sure the degenerates who subscribe to the doctrine of racial supremacy will be happy to know they'll always have a staunch defender in you.
[QUOTE=sgman91;51711386]Is being one of it's heads not working with them? How about you actually address the argument instead of playing semantics?
Even Alan Dershowitz, a Jew who stands pretty far to the left, defended Brannon from claims of anti-semitism[/QUOTE]
You implicitly said that by merely "working with" the site, he was not responsible for Breitbart's racist agenda. He was pointing out that he's the CEO who has control over what angle his news outlet pushes.
He's directly responsible. The arguments of whether Breitbart is racist or whether Bannon is racist are the same argument.
[QUOTE=archangel125;51711411]My argument is that it's pointless to be an apologist for a man who was the chief executive officer of a white supremacist site - unless you're a sympathizer, which I begin to suspect more and more with every passing day.
He decided the sorts of stories they ran. They reflect, therefore, his views.
I've noticed something about you, sgman. The things you choose to argue on this site. Trump's connections to racist groups - the Ferguson municipal corruption, etc. It seems so often to boil down to being an apologist for bigotry - not merely correcting overzealous bandwagoning against Trump when unwarranted, or arguing against the spread of leftist misinformation. No, issues like the one in this thread are strangely important to you - I'm sure the degenerates who subscribe to the doctrine of racial supremacy will be happy to know they'll always have a staunch defender in you.[/QUOTE]
So are you going to actually contribute or just keep up with the personal attacks?
I couldn't give a single crap what you call or think of me.
[QUOTE=archangel125;51711411]My argument is that it's pointless to be an apologist for a man who was the chief executive officer of a white supremacist site - unless you're a sympathizer, which I begin to suspect more and more with every passing day.
He decided the sorts of stories they ran. They reflect, therefore, his views.
I've noticed something about you, sgman. The things you choose to argue on this site. Trump's connections to racist groups - the Ferguson municipal corruption, etc. It seems so often to boil down to being an apologist for bigotry - not merely correcting overzealous bandwagoning against Trump when unwarranted, or arguing against the spread of leftist misinformation. No, issues like the one in this thread are strangely important to you - I'm sure the degenerates who subscribe to the doctrine of racial supremacy will be happy to know they'll always have a staunch defender in you.[/QUOTE]
Holy shit dude you're sounding more like a nazi with each passing day good LORD..
[QUOTE=Pops;51711406]i'm waiting on you to back up these claims tbh[/QUOTE]
[quote]Bannon was a founding member of the board of Breitbart News,[44] a far-right[24][14][4] news, opinion and commentary website which, according to Philip Elliott and Zeke J. Miller of Time, has "pushed racist, sexist, xenophobic and anti-Semitic material into the vein of the alternative right".[14]
In March 2012, after founder Andrew Breitbart's death, Bannon became executive chair of Breitbart News LLC, the parent company of Breitbart News.[25][45][46] Under his leadership, Breitbart took a more alt-right and nationalistic approach toward its agenda.[47] Bannon declared the website "the platform for the alt-right" in 2016.[16] Bannon identifies as a conservative.[48][49][50] Speaking about his role at Breitbart, Bannon said: "We think of ourselves as virulently anti-establishment, particularly 'anti-' the permanent political class."[51][/quote]
[url]http://www.apnewsarchive.com/2016/Trump_puts_flame-throwing_outsider_on_the_inside/id-f476183e30664524a534f5c0b997f98c[/url]
[QUOTE=bitches;51711420]You implicitly said that by merely "working with" the site, he was not responsible for Breitbart's racist agenda. He was pointing out that he's the CEO who has control over what angle his news outlet pushes.
He's directly responsible. The arguments of whether Breitbart is racist or whether Bannon is racist are the same argument.[/QUOTE]
Here's an article written by Alan Dershwitz that goes into the problems with that argument: [url]http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/opinions/alan-dershowitz-assessing-the-bannon-appointment/2016/11/20/[/url]
[QUOTE=Laferio;51711425]Holy shit dude you're sounding more like a nazi with each passing day good LORD..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Laferio;18142592]I hate Political Correctness with a Passion. Blacks complain in general how "The Man" Puts them down and how we somehow give them less rights than they already have. When they don't realize their own god-forsaken origin (Africa) Is in chaos 24/7. I also hate these Minority groups that go around thinking their special because something mysteriously happened like money appearing in their wallets. Such as getting a job.
Oh and "The Man" Isn't the president. Its the government in general.
[highlight](User was banned for this post ("Racism" - TH89))[/highlight][/QUOTE]
Just in case anyone forgot that Laferio's title isn't ironic.
[QUOTE=archangel125;51711430][url]http://www.apnewsarchive.com/2016/Trump_puts_flame-throwing_outsider_on_the_inside/id-f476183e30664524a534f5c0b997f98c[/url][/QUOTE]
okay.
you are aware that alt-right and nationalism are not exclusive to white supremacy, anti-semitism, racism, xenophobia, misogyny, et al right?
[QUOTE=sgman91;51711432]Here's an article written by Alan Dershwitz that goes into the problems with that argument: [url]http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/opinions/alan-dershowitz-assessing-the-bannon-appointment/2016/11/20/[/url][/QUOTE]
That's an article about antisemitism. I'm talking about racism.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51711369]
Now let's look at this critically. Steve Bannon runs Breibart. A news organization that was started by a jew, has several jewish employees, like the former Ben Shapiro/Milo/Joel Pollak, has never made a statement personally that shows any anti-Semitic comments, and is under appointment of a President that has jews in his cabinet/his daughter is married to an orthodox jew.
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I hate to invoke Godwin's law, here, but Hitler did have multiple Jewish friends, associates, and colleagues that he not only offered protections for but also added to his ranks. This argument holds as much water as "I have a black friend".
I don't entirely buy the claims that Bannon is an anti-semite based on the information presented so far but he definitely isn't anyone that should be speechwriting for the POTUS.
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