• Massive Muslim inbreeding over 14,000 years may have ruined gene pool
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[quote]GUANTANAMO BAY, Cuba - A Danish psychologist who believes Muslims are raised to be aggressive and that inbreeding has damaged their genes informed a damning expert opinion of the risk Omar Khadr poses to public safety, court heard Wednesday. Under cross-examination by defence lawyers, Dr. Michael Welner said he talked to Nicolai Sennels before coming to the conclusion that the Canadian-born Khadr was "highly dangerous" — an opinion he gave Tuesday on the first day of Khadr's sentencing hearing. Welner, a witness for the prosecution, said he admired Sennels for his work trying to help young Muslim inmates in Denmark and found him informative. Sennels, who is based in Copenhagen, has written extensively on Muslims, including one article introduced into evidence Tuesday. "If a Muslim does not react aggressively when criticized he is seen as weak, not worth trusting and he thus loses social status immediately," Sennels wrote. In another article, Sennels, 34, attributed a host of problems within the Islamic world to intermarriage among first cousins. "Massive inbreeding within the Muslim culture during the last 1,400 years may have done catastrophic damage to their gene pool." Sennels has also stated that Muslim integration into western societies is not possible, a view Welner called "political." The seven military officers on the jury will decide on a sentence for Khadr, who pleaded guilty on Monday to five war-crimes charges. Although they can sentence him to life in prison, the actual sentence will be capped at eight years under a plea-bargain agreement, the details of which have not been disclosed to the jury. Khadr would be returned to Canada after one more year in American custody. Testifying for a second day, Welner found his credibility under attack as the defence hammered him for being selective in his depictions of Khadr. Welner had testified on Tuesday that Khadr was only interested in the Qur'an, and had shown little interest in western literature. However, during testy exchanges with defence lawyer Maj. Matthew Schwartz, Welner conceded Khadr had indicated little interest in the Qu'ran before being shipped to Guantanamo. He also testified Khadr had in fact read books by South African President Nelson Mandela, U.S. President Barack Obama, and even romance writer Danielle Steele. He qualified his view by saying Khadr's dangerousness lay in his ability to be "inspiring and be incendiary" to other radical Islamists. Khadr, 24, who smiled and chatted with his lawyers, grew pensive as Welner testified, at times glaring at him. Welner admitted that professional colleagues did not review his opinion to ensure a lack of bias. It was also the first time he had assessed a radical jihadist for any risk to public safety. After interviewing Khadr for seven hours earlier this year, Welner concluded that the detainee did not have any mental illness. Later Wednesday, court heard three victim-impact statements. Former special forces sergeant Layne Morris described how he was hit in the head by shrapnel during the 2002 raid on the compound where Khadr was captured. He thought he had been shot and was "standing there dead," Morris testified, at times finding it difficult to stay composed. "It was complete despair — I would not get to see my kids again." Morris lost sight in one eye and he and Speer's widow later successfully sued Khadr's late father in a Utah court, winning a judgment in the tens of millions of dollars. Two of Speer's close comrades described the special forces medic in glowing terms and his death as a "catastrophic loss," frequently pausing as they fought back tears. The hearing continues Thursday.[/quote] [url]http://bit.ly/a15tXb[/url]
do you hate brown people or something
i don't see what the fuck inbreeding has to do with religious belief inb4 religious war
Well, thats ironic. An entire regiron claiming that their culture is better has infact made them sub par in terms of genetics to the rest of the world.
I'd like to see the scientific evidence behind this, otherwise I'm taking this with a pinch of salt. This would mean the same thing happens with all extremist groups, when really they're all just mind bendingly stupid and brain washed.
This article is a load of nonsense.
[QUOTE=aznz888;25748906]i don't see what the fuck inbreeding has to do with religious belief inb4 religious war[/QUOTE] I assume he means muslims that are from (or have extensive relatives from) historically muslim parts of the world, like the middle east and Africa. His theory is most likely not true though.
sounds like a massive islamaphobe
[QUOTE=Doriol;25748884]do you hate brown people or something[/QUOTE] yes they are all terrorists
-snip my bad, misread-
Seems about right. [editline]30th October 2010[/editline] fyi to facepunchers, anyone who disagrees with this is a completely uneducated idiot
wwwwooooooowwwww i didn't know eugenics was the big thing in denmark now [editline]30th October 2010[/editline] fyi to facepunchers, anyone who agrees with this is a completely uneducated idiot
[QUOTE=Doriol;25748884]do you hate brown people or something[/QUOTE] I find your reference to middle-easterners as 'brown people' to be racist.
He said 1,400 not 14,000.
I find this stupidly funny. [editline]30th October 2010[/editline] [quote] "If a Muslim does not react aggressively when criticized he is seen as weak, not worth trusting and he thus loses social status immediately," Sennels wrote.[/quote] It's as if Muslims are like some animals in a test lab.
[QUOTE=noctune9;25749780]He said 1,400 not 14,000.[/QUOTE] Doesn't matter, it's still wrong. And besides after a while the genetic bottle neck opens up again and there is no more inbreeding, it why humanity is so varied, despite all the crippling climate changes at the emergence of the species, there was inbreeding for a while before the mutations balanced out with the set number of active genetics. Basically inbreeding for a little while before the mutations start reopening all the DNA combinations possible before the bottleneck. TL;DR The psychologist should stick to his fucking expertise and not prattle on about fucking genetics.
First of all, you should correct the title to 1,400, not 14,000. Second, this sounds like how the royal families of Europe during the enlightment era were so in-bred that a lot of royal family members were retarded, except that for the royal thing we have proof, for example there was this Spanish king who was a 5th generation of in-breeders, and he suffered from severe mental conditions. Thankfully he had no offspring but that lead to the war of Spanish succession if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah the royal families were fucking stupid, it ended up getting to the point that cousins were fucking cousins and having kids, then those kids were fucking their cousins and aunts and uncles and shit. And shit got all fucked up man, aaaallll fucked up.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;25749947] Second, this sounds like how the royal families of Europe during the enlightment era were so in-bred that a lot of royal family members were retarded, except that for the royal thing we have proof, for example there was this Spanish king who was a 5th generation of in-breeders, and he suffered from severe mental conditions. Thankfully he had no offspring but that lead to the war of Spanish succession if I'm not mistaken.[/QUOTE] retardation doesn't come as a 100% impact of inbreeding, learn how genetics work
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;25749947]First of all, you should correct the title to 1,400, not 14,000. Second, this sounds like how the royal families of Europe during the enlightment era were so in-bred that a lot of royal family members were retarded, except that for the royal thing we have proof, for example there was this Spanish king who was a 5th generation of in-breeders, and he suffered from severe mental conditions. Thankfully he had no offspring but that lead to the war of Spanish succession if I'm not mistaken.[/QUOTE] The Habsburgs! [editline]30th October 2010[/editline] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_II_of_Spain[/url]
So that's why they're so stupid.
In fact inbreeding can actually strengthen the gene pool.
I kid. You dick yawmwen.
[QUOTE=starpluck;25749845]It's as if Muslims are like some animals in a test lab.[/QUOTE] The general attitude seems that if someone's behaviour is reducible to patterns, they're somehow stripped of their humanity and become simple animals or robots. I don't understand that attitude. And I don't understand why you think it matters that they're muslims. Should muslims not be studied like other humans?
[QUOTE=thisispain;25750067]retardation doesn't come as a 100% impact of inbreeding, learn how genetics work[/QUOTE] I didn't say retardation only comes because of inbreeding or that inbreeding always creates retardation, I just said that because of the 5 consecutive generations of inbreeding the last king of that particular royal family line suffered from one of the worst cases of retardation, he was practically in a coma.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;25750378]I didn't say retardation only comes because of inbreeding or that inbreeding always creates retardation, I just said that because of the 5 consecutive generations of inbreeding the last king of that particular royal family line suffered from one of the worst cases of retardation, he was practically in a coma.[/QUOTE] right but you likened that to this, it's not even comparable
[QUOTE=yawmwen;25750254]In fact inbreeding can actually strengthen the gene pool.[/QUOTE] Fucking what?! It can end up causing massive genetic disorders, and can end up forcing recessive, dangerous genes in the kid to become expressed leading to some really fucking dangerous shit. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inbreeding#Results[/url]
[QUOTE=thisispain;25750409]right but you likened that to this, it's not even comparable[/QUOTE] The two are quite related, there have been other cases of European royalty suffering from mental handicap which was attributed to inbreeding, but this is the most known case AFAIK.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;25750463]The two are quite related, there have been other cases of European royalty suffering from mental handicap which was attributed to inbreeding, but this is the most known case AFAIK.[/QUOTE] muslims are not part of one genepool
[QUOTE=noctune9;25749780]He said 1,400 not 14,000.[/QUOTE] It was a typo on my part.
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