I hate him with a firey passion, he's one of "those fans" that start screeching at the words "Star Wars Prequels".
I watched part 2 a while ago and he starts off with a really cringy "Haha fuck the prequels!!!" Skit thing, and then moved on to compalining about how "the prequels made the emperor look too evil so putting Ian Mcdiarmid in ESB is a dumb change fuck the prequels its their fault!!!"
Ignoring the fact that the Emperor looked like that, and was portrayed by Mcdiarmid in ROTJ. Closed out of the video after that.
Basically fuck HelloGreedo. He's an idiot and I thank you for giving me a chance to actively rate his videos dumb.
He even complains when good changes that were added "ruin the integrity of the film"
Oh like seriously adding in a digital hatch on the falcon was "ruining the integrity of all those who worked on the film?" give me a fucking break.
Also, old boba fett actor was shit. Glad they replaced him with the Jango actor tbh
ALSO, A New Hope was a very, VERY rushed film. It's no wonder Lucas wanted to add some things in (though a lot of it I agree was unnecessary), but this guy is literally too butthurt over any little change done to the film.
Like yeah, I definitely agree there are some dumb changes, but he just has blind hatred and doesn't really say anything interesting. There's a much better series that just showcases the changes along side the original version.
I generally actually don't mind the touch-up changes, like certain scenes looking like they should, or shots of a planet not being covered in Vaseline, of little model fixes. The random additions are terrible, as are the colour corrections and, god forbid, random added scenes or dialogue
[QUOTE=Zeos;49346117]I generally actually don't mind the touch-up changes, like certain scenes looking like they should, or shots of a planet not being covered in Vaseline, of little model fixes. The random additions are terrible, as are the colour corrections and, god forbid, random added scenes or dialogue[/QUOTE]
Some of the dialogue changes are nice and you wouldn't notice unless you were told about it "tell uncle" vs "tell your uncle" for example in ANH. Or when they're on the Death Star and R2 is bringing up the location of the tractor beam stuff, in the original version everyone stands there silently, 3PO explains what to do to shut it down in the Special Editions, breaking the jarring silence.
Another added scene in ANH was with the Sandcrawler. In the original version, you don't see it moving closer at all, after R2 and 3PO have been picked up, it's just a tiny little model in the distance. In the edited version it actually gets close and moves.
Plus all the really nice stuff in the Death Star Attack, with new CG sequences and the like.
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Oh and of course a short Biggs+Luke scene is added into ANH, giving him a bit of his character back.
There was no character to biggs at all in ANH since his scenes were removed, adding the scene in the hangar with luke and him felt uncessary
[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;49346199]There was no character to biggs at all in ANH since his scenes were removed, adding the scene in the hangar with luke and him felt uncessary[/QUOTE]
I agree, it was pretty jarring - it took me right out of the present moment of the film because I had to think back to try and figure out when there had been a scene to introduce him earlier on. Experientially a pretty bad choice
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Also all the added (bad) CG in ANH felt out of place too. The original was great because it belonged to the 70s. Everything felt solid and real enough because it was either a convincing model or very minor CGI (laser blasts, etc). When you throw in bad year 2000 shots of Mos Eisley it's so obviously fake that it just feels awful
[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;49346199]There was no character to biggs at all in ANH since his scenes were removed, adding the scene in the hangar with luke and him felt uncessary[/QUOTE]
So is having his death, even though its obvious we're supposed to know who he was and actually feel bad. One of the best decisions made was adding that back in.
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I've seen the original theatrical version, 97 version, 2004 version, and the 2011 version and I'd take any of the special editions over the theatrical any day. I've still yet to see the despecalized editions however so maybe that'll become my goto version.
The 97 version is pretty good with some of the ship special effects, though it does have some of the more egregious additions (E.G. the changes to Jabba's palace's opening) though the original cut has some... weirdness that I think is a result of a bad transfer. The version I literally just watched has a lot of focus issues and it's (supposed to be) how it was seen in theaters, which I doubt unless someone dumped grease on the top and bottom of the screen.
This guy is awful.
In the second video he is outright wrong, almost all the clones have an identical voice. He is also harping on about a kid actor for not having seen Star Wars and yet being chosen for the part. Their tend to be a few things that are more important when selecting actors than if they are fans.
His whole introductory diatribe on the original emperor seemed like a load of wank. Yeah, you totally thought about this allegorical chinese/roman emperor bent on conquest the moment you saw him.
The third video has about 30 seconds of critique and the rest of the 7 minutes and 30 seconds is just "hardcore fan" wanking.
The fourth video, I don't see a difference between the blaster shots. His point on the ceremony room is dumb, the film looks objectively better with no change to the intent of the director. His point on Obiwan's lightsaber not being colored becoming "another thing to love about star wars" is more of a "well look how much of a hardcore nerd I am".
[QUOTE=redBadger;49346073]He even complains when good changes that were added "ruin the integrity of the film"
Oh like seriously adding in a digital hatch on the falcon was "ruining the integrity of all those who worked on the film?" give me a fucking break.
Also, old boba fett actor was shit. Glad they replaced him with the Jango actor tbh
ALSO, A New Hope was a very, VERY rushed film. It's no wonder Lucas wanted to add some things in (though a lot of it I agree was unnecessary), but this guy is literally too butthurt over any little change done to the film.[/QUOTE]
tbh I kinda liked the old voice. The old one sounds gravely and western as fuck, temuera morrison's voice sounds clean in comparison.
maybe it's just because I hear temuera morrison so often that I like the variety
People say that he should sound like Jango, but peoples voices can change over the years, based on environment and upbringing.
Boba was orphaned at a young age, he could easily loose his accent, get injured, etc.
Even Deltas (and some other Clones iirc) have different voices from Jango
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But I can still understand why George would change it. It's probably one of the more logical ones.
Oh god that old emperor looks so terrible. He looks like was stung by a bunch of bees and now his eyes are all swollen and puffy.
[QUOTE=Leintharien;49347245]Oh god that old emperor looks so terrible. He looks like was stung by a bunch of bees and now his eyes are all swollen and puffy.[/QUOTE]
I believe the emperor in ESB was a Woman with Chimpanzee eyes superimposed over her face
[QUOTE=Leintharien;49347245]Oh god that old emperor looks so terrible. He looks like was stung by a bunch of bees and now his eyes are all swollen and puffy.[/QUOTE]
I like it in the context of the film, it works well but I can't imagine him appearing like that in RotJ. Still, Episode III Sheev wins the award for being the puffiest of them all.
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Haha I think that making ANY updates to classic films is heresy. How could you possibly think it's a good idea to take a piece of art and make changes like that.
If you can somehow make an argument on why editing the original films was a good idea, please say something instead of rating me into the rancor pit
[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;49347832]I like it in the context of the film, it works well but I can't imagine him appearing like that in RotJ. Still, Episode III Sheev wins the award for being the puffiest of them all.
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Those three pictures look as though they are a progression of his eyes shrinking smaller and smaller as they recede further into his skull.
[QUOTE=Glitchman;49347913]Haha I think that making ANY updates to classic films is heresy. How could you possibly think it's a good idea to take a piece of art and make changes like that.
If you can somehow make an argument on why editing the original films was a good idea, please say something instead of rating me into the rancor pit[/QUOTE]
You mean like almost every post in this thread has been doing?
[QUOTE=overwatch pvt;49348005]You mean like almost every post in this thread has been doing?[/QUOTE]
A lot of the changes, while harmless, are still pretty unnecessary.
The new edition should've just been a remastering, a technical touch up of the picture, not a re-edit with added bits.
Honestly his newer videos are much better, give em a try.
[QUOTE=cdr248;49348034]A lot of the changes, while harmless, are still pretty unnecessary.
The new edition should've just been a remastering, a technical touch up of the picture, not a re-edit with added bits.[/QUOTE]
This. I would have been fine with reducing some of the glaring matte lines and grain of the footage; redoing and mastering some sounds. The added stuff, replaced stuff, all just crazy to me
[QUOTE=Glitchman;49348534]This. I would have been fine with reducing some of the glaring matte lines and grain of the footage; redoing and mastering some sounds. The added stuff, replaced stuff, all just crazy to me[/QUOTE]
Because George Lucas IS crazy, he is a genuine nutjob. I don't believe he's self conscious of all his artistic short comings at all.
Like I am not a huge Star Wars fanboy, I really couldn't give a shit anymore since the damage has been done since before I was born. But it is really interesting to me to see just how bad of a decision maker George Lucas is. He's borderline incompetent. Star Wars is such a weird anomaly in the film industry.
[QUOTE=cdr248;49346843]tbh I kinda liked the old voice. The old one sounds gravely and western as fuck, temuera morrison's voice sounds clean in comparison.
maybe it's just because I hear temuera morrison so often that I like the variety[/QUOTE]
I like Boba's old voice because it makes him a different character, rather than Jango Fett 2: Electric Boogaloo.
[QUOTE=BenJammin';49349039]Because George Lucas IS crazy, he is a genuine nutjob. I don't believe he's self conscious of all his artistic short comings at all.[/QUOTE]
Just read any articles about the shit Lucas Arts devs had to deal with when they were working with him. He's either crazy, an idiot, or a crazy idiot. The only reason the original trilogy turned out the way it did was because everyone working with him had the balls to say "no Lucas, this is stupid" when he made stupid decisions.
[QUOTE=Butthurter;49349159]temuerra morrison is such a wooden actor and its even more apparent when hes doing the voicework for a faceless character
how anyone can defend him is beyond me[/QUOTE]
And how you could think that is beyond me. He was one of the only actors in the prequels who was at all memorable.
Bobba Fett only says 4 lines in the whole trilogy, why would ou need to even change the voice actor of him anyway?
[QUOTE=Butthurter;49349300]imagine actually thinking that when ian mcdiarmid, ewan mcgregor, and christopher lee exist[/QUOTE]
They're good actors. But aside from maybe Mcgregor, they're delivery in the prequels was total shit. None of their performances were memorable, and the same could be said for Samuel Jackson. I'd blame it all on Lucas direction, but doesn't change how they were delivered.
[QUOTE=overwatch pvt;49349274]And how you could think that is beyond me. He was one of the only actors in the prequels who was at all memorable.[/QUOTE]
Temuerra isn't really a good actor I'd say, it's just that he's got a very recognizable voice that sounds cool yet generic enough to fit the voices of faceless cloned soldiers. Although tbh he doesn't many opportunities to show off his range in Star Wars (and I haven't seen anything else he's in).
His performance does feel wooden but I think it's fitting to the character.
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