[video=youtube;dy5GRaHzFnI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy5GRaHzFnI[/video]
If you haven't seen the previous videos then this might not make sense.
I don't know how they broke Rome II so bad. I wanted it to be so good and even stuck with it even today but I still know shogun 2 was just an overall better product. Apparently a lot of that budget they had was used to advertise rather than put back into the game.
Even with the bugs fixed and the game optimized, it's still not that good. The politics system is a huge pointless mess.
It doesn't seem that bad to me. Then again I thoroughly enjoyed Empire so that's subjective I guess.
I'm gonna give it one more shot - I only have 14 hours clocked on Steam, got it at launch. I just played almost two full Medieval II campaigns, so I guess it'd be a good time to compare.
They should really focus less on eye candy and more on substance.
This was the worst impulse buy in recent memory for me. £35 down the drain.
[QUOTE=_Axel;46529425]It doesn't seem that bad to me. Then again I thoroughly enjoyed Empire so that's subjective I guess.[/QUOTE]
I only played Empire a good year after launch, and I enjoyed it as well. It added a lot of stuff I like (the technology tree, for example), but it still has some pretty hefty flaws. Like relying too much on stat boosts for difficulty increases. Really, try a one on one fight of two equivalent units on different difficulty levels - on very hard conscripts can almost take on royal guards. On higher difficulties you just get spammed with death stacks of soldiers that are better than your own, and personally I don't find that a fun way to increase difficulty.
Medieval II has a problem of being too easy, but with dumb victory conditions - the campaign shouldn't be about having 45 regions and Jerusalem (it's just a real inconvenience), it should be about being stronger and richer than the other countries while holding much less than 45 regions. With a higher difficulty you'll end up with a game where border movements are less frequent, but much more important. I'd prefer that personally. And yeah, I'm of course talking about vanilla, but still.
[QUOTE=rshunter313;46529317]I don't know how they broke Rome II so bad. I wanted it to be so good and even stuck with it even today but I still know shogun 2 was just an overall better product. Apparently a lot of that budget they had was used to advertise rather than put back into the game.[/QUOTE]
Rome II on launch was such a shamefur dispray. Yeah I still remember that shit.
They fixed quite a lot with the emperor edition, even the multiplayer campaign which is a first but the game feels as dull as it was on release. I could never put into words why i felt that way about Rome II in comparison to shogun 2 and FotS but i think he nailed it down perfectly.
Pretty good watch and i'm glad someone took the time to do this.
Rome II is literally fine if you're not an obsessive pedant
cool i'm gonna keep playing it though
[editline]19th November 2014[/editline]
i love the setting and the limitations of the game have done little to stop me from enjoying the overall experience, some people never even got past disliking the unit cards
that's all i'm saying
It's not garbage, at least not with the emperor edition and yeah it's fine, but seriously underwhelming compared to it's predecessors.
The guy even said on the video that he wouldn't call it "unenjoyable", just flawed.
[QUOTE=wheel_user;46529900]It's not garbage, at least not with the emperor edition and yeah it's fine, but seriously underwhelming compared to it's predecessors.
The guy even said on the video that he wouldn't call it "unenjoyable", just flawed.[/QUOTE]
But why settle for this when the better game already exists?
[QUOTE=Atlascore;46529823]The game is garbage, especially compared to Shogun 2, just deal with it.[/QUOTE]
It's not garbage lol it's a ton of fun.
Of all the games to botch, it had to be our return to classical warfare.
Hopefully they'll get it right for Medieval III.
[QUOTE=Kommodore;46529838]cool i'm gonna keep playing it though
[editline]19th November 2014[/editline]
i love the setting and the limitations of the game have done little to stop me from enjoying the overall experience, some people never even got past disliking the unit cards[/QUOTE]
The problem is that the overall experience feels very shallow and dull. Rome 2 is not a good game, but it's not terrible either.
literally can't comprehend 80% of the complaints in this video. he complains about something and shows the footage and i'm like "oh yeh i guess that does look a bit bad if you really stare at it" and then he says "well in rome1 it was SO much better!" and then shows the rome1 footage and i see all the same mistakes?? i dont get it
luckily for me i'm not a spastic so i dont zoom in and stare at animations frame by frame while i'm playing total war games so i can still understand and enjoy the concept of fun
My only critique point in the current state is that the battles are still a horrible action-button clickfest, over before any atmosphere starts, in big battles you can't go 10 seconds without having to click an action/morale button.
and then the rest is completely subjective opinion said as fact, with hyperbolic jokes to really drum home just how right his opinion is. this is terribly tiresome and irritating to watch
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;46530080]literally can't comprehend 80% of the complaints in this video. he complains about something and shows the footage and i'm like "oh yeh i guess that does look a bit bad if you really stare at it" and then he says "well in rome1 it was SO much better!" and then shows the rome1 footage and i see all the same mistakes?? i dont get it
luckily for me i'm not a literal spastic so i dont zoom in and stare at animations frame by frame while i'm playing total war games so i can still understand and enjoy the concept of fun[/QUOTE]
There was a thread in the R2 subforum on TWC prerelease complaining that the game's sandals weren't right.
Yeah the launch was a mess, but I had fun with it, and I still do. I don't like how people threw around this guy's "Sane Critique" as their argument, never actually arguing the points themselves. Like, even his name "Sanity" using as if he's a lone beacon of sanity in a sea of unwashed masses who don't know left from right, as if he has the only right answers.
My main problem with it is that I'll start a battle or load a campaign, play for a bit, get frustrated or bored and then quit.
Am i wrong,or is the comment on "all my soilders are hunchbacks"completely silly. Arnt they doing that so they are both a smaller target and dont get shot in the face with an arrow aswell as making full use of there sheild?
Just a huge disappointment tbh. I got into the series with medieval 2, not rome 1. And I would've loved to have a good, modern total war game set in rome
Know what other setting I'd love to see? The warring states period in china
[QUOTE=bdd458;46530103]There was a thread in the R2 subforum on TWC prerelease complaining that the game's sandals weren't right.
Yeah the launch was a mess, but I had fun with it, and I still do. I don't like how people threw around this guy's "Sane Critique" as their argument, never actually arguing the points themselves. Like, even his name "Sanity" using as if he's a lone beacon of sanity in a sea of unwashed masses who don't know left from right, as if he has the only right answers.[/QUOTE]
The TWC forums are the worst forums I've ever seen. Seriously, every other community forum I've ever visited is better IMO.
[QUOTE=Explosions;46530510]The TWC forums are the worst forums I've ever seen. Seriously, every other community forum I've ever visited is better IMO.[/QUOTE]
Parts of it are fine, just the rabid "I'm always right you're always wrong" armchair historian crowd are bad.
I love TWC from the bottom of my heart, otherwise I wouldn't have accepted the offer to be a moderator there :v:
[QUOTE=Explosions;46530510]The TWC forums are the worst forums I've ever seen. Seriously, every other community forum I've ever visited is better IMO.[/QUOTE]
Allow me to introduce you to the rust subforum
The bit I really agree with is the music, Rome 2's score was so dull and uninspired. Although I guess you can't blame CA for that too much if what people have said is true, that Jeff Van Dyck simply didn't want to work on Rome 2.
[QUOTE=Srillo;46530901]The bit I really agree with is the music, Rome 2's score was so dull and uninspired. Although I guess you can't blame CA for that too much if what people have said is true, that Jeff Van Dyck simply didn't want to work on Rome 2.[/QUOTE]
He was quoted as having said he was busy with other projects iirc.
but yeah, the music isn't bad, it just isn't really memorable.
The video was way too nit picky to watch.
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