BWOOOOOOOMP
absolutely nothing new, let alone hype-fueling for people who don't know what GitS is
It's just the type of movie that people who have never heard of gits would like though. That's why they got scarlet Johnson to play lead and are advertising it aggressively to a western market.
Seems to make sense to me.
[QUOTE=dai;51771357]BWOOOOOOOMP[/QUOTE] Then they say something that's supposed to be profound, "they did not save your life, they stole it". "You're friends are actually your enemies BWOOOOOOOMP" "You're a wizard harry BWOOOOOOOMP" .
Formulas :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=DiBBs27;51771517]It's just the type of movie that people who have never heard of gits would like though. That's why they got scarlet Johnson to play lead and are advertising it aggressively to a western market.
Seems to make sense to me.[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure the reason they hired Scarlett Johansson is because with almost every anime turned into a live-action movie, the Japanese market seem to have a tendency of hiring white actors. I don't think they're trying to tell the audience that they have her in there but more that they want her themselves because they really like her. :v:
There was a lot of controversy about that, and people (But oddly enough, not the Japanese themselves) seem very vocal about calling it white-washing, which I personally find funny considering so many goddamn anime protagonists characters and whatnot don't really appear to have a specific "race". The director, albeit British, said what appears to be a somewhat honest opinion on why they casted her.
[QUOTE]“To me, you know, I cast very much from the gut and I think I was very lucky to be able to get an amazing international cast of people that I’ve always really wanted to work with,” he said. “Scarlett was one of those people, and to me there’s very few actresses who’ve had 20 years of experience, who have the cyberpunk aesthetic already baked in. You know, she comes from such edgy films from Lost in Translation to Under the Skin — she’s got an incredible body of work and the attitude and toughness of her really is to me The Major.”[/QUOTE]
All things considered, casting should be done based on ability, and while I'm sure there's a talented Asian woman out there who can also do the role, this is the one they picked, which I don't think is a bad thing either way.
My problem is that Scarlett Johansson just doesn't look fitting
Anime stuff rarely ever translates well into live action since live action is a lot more limited than animation, it's almost always going to look like a downgrade.
[QUOTE=DiBBs27;51771517]It's just the type of movie that people who have never heard of gits would like though. That's why they got scarlet Johnson to play lead and are advertising it aggressively to a western market.
Seems to make sense to me.[/QUOTE]
Is it really a bad thing if it introduces some people who have never heard of gits in a way that more people might get interested though? I mean worst case scenario it's bad (by the general public's standards) and nobody cares, best case scenario it generates more widespread interest in the series
I wish this was made a year or two after Matrix and Trinity having the Major role. She is basically Major; very cold like an android, and was also very athletic.
Heck, when you think about it, Laurence Fishburne is basically Batou, Trinity is Major and Keanu Reeves should have been Togusa :v:
[QUOTE=Elspin;51771740]Is it really a bad thing if it introduces some people who have never heard of gits in a way that more people might get interested though? I mean worst case scenario it's bad (by the general public's standards) and nobody cares, best case scenario it generates more widespread interest in the series[/QUOTE]
I agree 100% here. Putting gits in the general public's view, if done at least half as well as the anime, it's going to make a lot of money.
I don't have any problem with the whitewashing either, as Ax3l says, anime has a long history of series with protagonists that are race neutral. For the most part, many series don't seem to acknowledge race. And especially don't make an issue about it, unless its a driving force in the plot.
[QUOTE=Ax3l;51771586]Pretty sure the reason they hired Scarlett Johansson is because with almost every anime turned into a live-action movie, the Japanese market seem to have a tendency of hiring white actors. I don't think they're trying to tell the audience that they have her in there but more that they want her themselves because they really like her. :v:
There was a lot of controversy about that, and people (But oddly enough, not the Japanese themselves) seem very vocal about calling it white-washing, which I personally find funny considering so many goddamn anime protagonists characters and whatnot don't really appear to have a specific "race". The director, albeit British, said what appears to be a somewhat honest opinion on why they casted her.
All things considered, casting should be done based on ability, and while I'm sure there's a talented Asian woman out there who can also do the role, this is the one they picked, which I don't think is a bad thing either way.[/QUOTE]
Its also the same "Fans vs. General Audience" dance that goes with [I]every[/I] franchise being made into a live action movie. From Godzilla to Transformers there's this hard line between pleasing the fans but alienating the general audience ie Pacific Rim which only got its money back overseas by sheer luck or side with the general audience with star power, simple storyline, and big-budget effects ie Pixels, Independene Day: Resurgence, and now Power Rangers w/ Bryan Cranston and TF5 w/ Sir Anthony Hopkins. Quality or no quality, hit the right notes and you'll get your money back unless you're Amazing Spiderman 2 or the new Annie musical film.
[QUOTE=AntonioR;51771824]I wish this was made a year or two after Matrix and Trinity having the Major role. She is basically Major; very cold like an android, and was also very athletic.
Heck, when you think about it, Laurence Fishburne is basically Batou, Trinity is Major and Keanu Reeves should have been Togusa :v:[/QUOTE]
not in a million years.
most of the people claiming this was white washed come, however, from the experience of dealing with the casts of stuff such as last airbender. wich is perfectly fine seeing as the race of the main characters in the series was to an extent a prominent element.
unfortunately, most of the people behind the "white washing" argument, when asked who should take the role of the major in this movie had only one person in mind and that was Rinko Kikuchi, and only because it was the only female japanese actor they knew at the time. and only because she had a role in Pacific Rim.
Scarlet will do fine, as long as the direction of the film is aimed towards action and visuals and not towards existencialism and shitty "2deep4u" quotes. leave that for a television show if the movie does well.
All I can see is that fucking Lucy movie.
[QUOTE=Metaru;51773042]not in a million years.
most of the people claiming this was white washed come, however, from the experience of dealing with the casts of stuff such as last airbender. wich is perfectly fine seeing as the race of the main characters in the series was to an extent a prominent element.
unfortunately, most of the people behind the "white washing" argument, when asked who should take the role of the major in this movie had only one person in mind and that was Rinko Kikuchi, and only because it was the only female japanese actor they knew at the time. and only because she had a role in Pacific Rim.
Scarlet will do fine, as long as the direction of the film is aimed towards action and visuals and not towards existencialism and shitty "2deep4u" quotes. leave that for a television show if the movie does well.[/QUOTE]
Not sure why you are bringing this up when I talk about the year 2000/2001 here ? Social media didn't exist back then, so those few people who care about that stuff would just write it down in their diary and move on.
Personally I'm glad that from the looks of it, it's taking a more action-oriented perspective on the original movie, while still keeping some scenes exactly the same (the shelling scene almost looks identical and keeps the same music). GitS 1995 is ridiculously exposition-heavy which, if redone word-for-word in the live-action remake, would be ripped apart by critics and movie buffs who don't watch anime. Hopefully they still touch some existentialism-related stuff in it, even though it's a tired topic for robot/cyborg etc movies now.
[QUOTE=Jackald;51773058]Tachikomas or we riot
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tkb8_eMs8Jg[/media][/QUOTE]
Were these even in the original movie?
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;51773972]Were these even in the original movie?[/QUOTE]
The tachikoma alone make SAC better than the film.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;51773972]Were these even in the original movie?[/QUOTE]
There were Fuchikoma, but they were absent in the movie mostly due to the director playing it off a lot more seriously and being pretty pragmatic about things compared to the mix of seriousness and whacky weirdness the manga had. Tachikoma were their equivalents in Stand Alone Complex, supposedly due to copyright concerns for the old Fuchi designs, but essentially fill the same role.
The Fuchikoma were also pretty much the stars of the PS1 game since you were a player-fulfillment rookie piloting one in its own original plot while being animated by the same studio as the film, though also with a tone closer to the manga.
My point is if it doesn't play a pivotal part in the thing it's adapting, in this case the movie, then it's probably fine if it's not in the adaption.
They've been using the BWWWYYYAAAAAAHHHH sound effect for so long now it sounds broken.
[QUOTE=AntonioR;51773186]Not sure why you are bringing this up when I talk about the year 2000/2001 here ? Social media didn't exist back then, so those few people who care about that stuff would just write it down in their diary and move on.[/QUOTE]
my bad, should had made it clear was not relating the whitewashing topic to your post.
trinity as the major though, hell fucking no.
[QUOTE=dai;51771357]BWOOOOOOOMP
absolutely nothing new, let alone hype-fueling for people who don't know what GitS is[/QUOTE]
You can't justify marketing a movie exclusively to weaboos.
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;51778007]You can't justify marketing a movie exclusively to weaboos.[/QUOTE]
that's the entire point of what I said
the trailer fails to do anything that your average non weeb finds very appealing, it's slow paced and made itself sound ultra generic, resulting in a shitty ad for what they paid to put it out at the superbowl.
So I've only seen the original movie (and loved it) but is this taking stuff from SAC or the manga?
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