Houston business defends its controversial sign asking if one of Obama's family members needs to be
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HOUSTON -- It's not the first time Tactical Firearms has displayed a controversial message on its outdoor marquee, but its latest sign seems to be turning more heads than usual.
It says "Does one of Obamas family members have to be beheaded for 'change' to happen?"
CEO Jeremy Alcede says it's a fair question, in the wake of two American journalists being beheaded by ISIS militants.
"I look and see what's going on throughout the week, realize what's an issue, what needs to be fixed, and if I think it's important, then that's what I'll voice my opinion," Alcede said.
And for families driving by who find the message offensive, Alcede said they use the opportunity to educate their children.
"You should show them the news and say, 'This is reality kids. Beheadings happen, but they shouldn't.'"
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The message is a little dramatic, but it does have a pretty valid point. We see our ally collapsing into religious sect violence, genocides of certain groups, destruction of historical architecture, and with all of this, it's only when a journalist loses their head does it start to matter.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;45945295]The message is a little dramatic, but it does have a pretty valid point. We see our ally collapsing into religious sect violence, genocides of certain groups, destruction of historical architecture, and with all of this, it's only when a journalist loses their head does it start to matter.[/QUOTE]
It mattered before that happened, even to our government, don't be naïve.
[QUOTE=NixNax123;45945319]It mattered before that happened, even to our government, don't be naïve.[/QUOTE]
No it didn't. Even when Mosul was having jihadist fingerpainters painting every newly captured building with their logo, no one gave a shit or thought of a good way to go about the situation. Even now we are pussy footing the situation in a way which will not be effective enough to capitulate the Islamic State.
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[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;45945338]No it didn't. Even when Mosul was having jihadist fingerpainters painting every newly captured building with their logo, no one gave a shit or thought of a good way to go about the situation. Even now we are pussy footing the situation in a way which will not be effective enough to capitulate the Islamic State.[/QUOTE]
We aren't doing it because we don't want to have the same clusterfuck that Iraq was in the first place. This kind of thing mattered way before Foley, but anyone who proposes more than airstrikes or aid to the Iraqis is, in my opinion, going way to overboard.
We don't need to lose many thousands of Americans fighting ISIS just over the deaths of two journalists. While it is sad and ISIS does need to be axed, the US shouldn't play a very direct role considering what happened last time.
Our government isn't interested in social progress on any scale, domestic or global, other than for PR. It just wants the strategic value of an ally.
It really is a dick government. People like to talk about the US's actions as if they have some sort of good agenda sometimes and a bad one other times, in reality, there's no morality behind it. We install dictators when it suits us then remove them not because they then abuse their power, but when they stop taking actions in our favor. There are an absurd number of historical examples of this from panema, to iraq, to cuba, chile, and a bunch more.
To be fair, it is pretty smart marketing to appeal to your greatest customer base as a firearms dealer.
You know, brainless extremist republican hicks.
Who cares. He has a right to say this and it should be applauded that he has expressed his opinion.
[QUOTE]"You should show them the news and say, 'This is reality kids. Beheadings happen, but they shouldn't.'"[/QUOTE]
The guys you would be helping by intervening also do beheadings.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;45945295]The message is a little dramatic, but it does have a pretty valid point. We see our ally collapsing into religious sect violence, genocides of certain groups, destruction of historical architecture, and with all of this, it's only when a journalist loses their head does it start to matter.[/QUOTE]
What change are you proposing? We were conducting drone strikes before anyone Americans were beheaded. Are you proposing more direct military action than that?
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;45945295]The message is a little dramatic, but it does have a pretty valid point. We see our ally collapsing into religious sect violence, genocides of certain groups, destruction of historical architecture, and with all of this, it's only when a journalist loses their head does it start to matter.[/QUOTE]
Countries rarely care about the internal disputes of other countries unless it impacts their own citizenry.
I'm sure people in England wouldn't care about the Ferguson riots unless an Englishman got injured in it.
When will everybody realize that ISIS is the United States' new operation, after Osama? War is peace, ignorance is strength, freedom is slavery. Haven't you guys read 1984?
Eurasia Oceania Eastasia
[QUOTE=Explosions;45945768]Who cares. He has a right to say this and it should be applauded that he has expressed his opinion.[/QUOTE]
Well I broke my wrists, so I can't applaud that he expressed his opinion, but I can give him a smiley face sticker to take home and show his mom.
seems rather stupid since...obama has already announced he's going to take action.....
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also the pentagon has already said they really tried to find those guys they just weren't where the intel said they were
I may not agree with his opinion, but it's his right as an American to express those views. People asking him to remove the sign; or those that are giving him shit are hypocritical.
What a retard.
Two Americans get killed by ISIS, right? We've been dumping bombs on them for the past few weeks. We've probably already killed a few hundred of ISIS fighters by now. More than enough for a proportional response.
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Change didn't happen when Trayvon Martin was killed, and Obama straight up said that could've been him 35 years ago!
[QUOTE=Explosions;45945768]Who cares. He has a right to say this and it should be applauded that he has expressed his opinion.[/QUOTE]
No.
This sort of expression isn't something I would applaud at all.
Have your freedom of words, sure.
That doesn't mean it has any merit or value beyond the poop jokes on a bathroom wall.
Not going to get all gooey eyed every time someone makes a crass sentence.
[QUOTE=Bredirish123;45946373]I may not agree with his opinion, but it's his right as an American to express those views. People asking him to remove the sign; or those that are giving him shit are hypocritical.[/QUOTE]
It's his right as an American to express those views, it is also the right of all Americans to give him shit for suggesting we behead anyone.
Freedom of speech works both ways and doesn't shield you from criticism when you say something terrible and dumb.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;45946753]Change didn't happen when Trayvon Martin was killed, and Obama straight up said that could've been him 35 years ago![/QUOTE]
Unless Obama was a hoodrat thug 35 years ago, I doubt it
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