CNN Florida Poll: 49% for Romney, 48% for Obama; essential tie - Polidicks

[QUOTE](CNN) - Three days before the final presidential debate, a new survey in the biggest of the battleground states indicates the race for the White House is basically tied. According to a CNN/ORC International poll conducted Wednesday and Thursday, entirely after the second presidential debate, 49% of likely voters in Florida say they support Republican nominee Mitt Romney, with 48% backing President Barack Obama. Romney's one point margin is well within the survey's sampling error. Monday, the final president debate, which will focus on international issues, will be held in Boca Raton, Florida. "Generational and income difference are the two main factors in the Sunshine State, with President Obama holding double-digit leads among younger and less affluent voters and Mitt Romney piling up big margins among older and higher-income voters," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. With female voters and women's issues in the national spotlight this last week, the survey indicates the gender gap in Florida is much smaller than the generational divide or the income gap. The president has a narrow 49%-47% edge among women voters, with Romney holding a 50%-46% edge among men. "This suggests that in Florida women are voting more on the basis of pocketbook concerns and issues that split young and old throughout the country," adds Holland. According to the poll, the president and the former Massachusetts governor are tied among two key swing groups: Independent voters and suburban voters. [img]http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/10/19/florida.poll.jpg[/img] As always, keep in mind that the poll does not, and cannot, predict the outcome of the election in November. The survey indicates that one in twelve likely Florida voters say they could change their minds between now and Election Day, more than enough to affect a one-point race. President George W. Bush won Florida in his 2004 re-election, but Obama narrowly captured the state in his 2008 victory over Sen. John McCain. This cycle Florida, where 29 electoral votes are up for grabs, has been getting tons of attention during the general election, with the candidates making frequent visits to the Sunshine State. The poll's release come just a few hours before Romney and Rep. Paul Ryan, the GOP running mate, team up for a rally in Daytona Beach. And it comes as Vice President Joe Biden makes a two day swing through the state. The Obama and Romney campaigns are also spending big bucks on get out the vote efforts and to run television commercials in the state. The two presidential campaigns, the party committees, and the super PACs and other independent groups supporting the candidate, have shelled out more than $125 million to run ads on broadcast TV in Florida. That's according to data provided to its clients by Campaign Media Analysis Group (CMAG), which tracks campaign advertising. Twelve million of that spending has come just in the last week. Three non-partisan, live operator polls of likely voters were conducted in Florida after the first presidential debate and before the second showdown. A CNN Poll of Polls which averaged all three surveys indicated Romney at 49% and Obama at 46%. With third party candidates factored in, Romney stands at 48% and Obama has 47%. Of the third party candidates, Libertarian Party nominee Gary Johnson has 2%, Constitution Party candidate Virgil Goode holds 1%, and Green Party candidate Jill Stein received less than one half of one percent in the poll. The new CNN poll was conducted by ORC International, with 1,030 adults, including 922 registered voters and 681 likely voters, questioned by telephone. The survey's sampling error for likely voters is plus or minus four percentage points.[/quote] Source: [url]http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/19/cnn-poll-close-contest-for-floridas-29-electoral-votes/?hpt=hp_t1[/url]

People see and hear what they want to see and hear.

It's going to be a close one in the battleground states and almost certainly a close election too.

[QUOTE=wickedplayer494;38105400]It's going to be a close one in the battleground states and almost certainly a close election too.[/QUOTE] Which is surprising since Romney sounds, at least at face value, like another George Bush (without the childish brain damage) and yet people seem to completely forget most of the nation hated Bush during his last term. Obama needs to tie Romney to Bush somehow to make a big leap in the polls, I think.

for gods sake america get your shit together

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;38105452]Which is surprising since Romney sounds, at least at face value, like another George Bush (without the childish brain damage) and yet people seem to completely forget most of the nation hated Bush during his last term.[/QUOTE]doesn't matter when it's all about the skin color [editline]n[/editline] boxes hurt ma feewings

[QUOTE=Thom12255;38105385]People see and hear what they want to see and hear.[/QUOTE] Sheeple.

[QUOTE=Joazzz;38105512]doesn't matter when it's all about the skin color[/QUOTE] Because people cannot be upset about his policies or his performance. No. It HAS to be because he's black. YOU are the racist. Because YOU keep bringing skin tone into this.

[QUOTE=Ridge;38105542]Because YOU keep bringing skin tone into this.[/QUOTE] how many times have i done that now? [QUOTE=Ridge;38105542]YOU are the racist.[/QUOTE]there's a little racist living in all of us

surprising their close due to Florida being old people who love Republicans Then again Romney and Ryan have questionable views of medicare.

[QUOTE=Joazzz;38105512]doesn't matter when it's all about the skin color [editline]n[/editline] boxes hurt ma feewings[/QUOTE] Are you serious? Do you have ANY proof that skin color is any kind of factor in this campaign?

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;38105632]Are you serious? Do you have ANY proof that skin color is any kind of factor in this campaign?[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://colorlines.com/assets_c/2012/10/put_the_white_back_in_whitehouse-thumb-640xauto-6902.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Joazzz;38105512]boxes hurt ma feewings[/QUOTE] Dumbing Ridge actually makes you a hypocrite if they "hurt your feelings".

i'm scared america

[QUOTE=kill3r;38105649][IMG]http://colorlines.com/assets_c/2012/10/put_the_white_back_in_whitehouse-thumb-640xauto-6902.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Any statistics other than the shirt of one man living in a country of 300,000,000?

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;38105632]Are you serious?[/QUOTE]yeah i'm quite serious [QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;38105632]Do you have ANY proof that skin color is any kind of factor in this campaign?[/QUOTE]why else would all those people vote for a guy who is just going to majorly fuck over 47% of the people? i mean seriously, it's part because of Obama's policies but also part because he's black. why else would we see so many idiots parading around declaring that Obama is a nigger, communist, reptilian etc? they use every 'fact' about things Obama is/has done they can get their hands on to hide the fact that in reality they don't like his skin color. i've seen many cases of this, should i make a list? i'm okay with people of other skin tones, because in the end we're all just human beings, but there are those who aren't and you can find a plenty of them in the right wing parties and movements of the US and in the supporters of the aforementioned, and those vote for romney [QUOTE=wickedplayer494;38105670]Dumbing Ridge actually makes you a hypocrite if they "hurt your feelings".[/QUOTE]nice of you to pick on a joke, i probably should have made it more obvious i think

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;38105703]Any statistics other than the shirt of one man living in a country of 300,000,000?[/QUOTE] But you asked for proof that his skin color was of any significance, and that image clearly shows that one man believes so. The likelyhood of other fellow americans like himself having the same attitude is very likely, if one guy thinks it, you really think a lot of others wont? Racism is clearly playing some sort of role in the elections, it may be a small part, but it's certainly significant.

[QUOTE=kill3r;38105734]But you asked for proof that his skin color was of any significance, and that image clearly shows that one man believes so. The likelyhood of other fellow americans like himself having the same attitude is very likely, if one guy thinks it, you really think a lot of others wont? Racism is clearly playing some sort of role in the elections, it may be a small part, but it's certainly significant.[/QUOTE]exactly what i mean, i might have worded it badly really badly

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;38105703]Any statistics other than the shirt of one man living in a country of 300,000,000?[/QUOTE] Go out and talk to people, I've overheard and spoken to plenty of people around my town who simply don't want to vote for Obama because he's a "nigger".

America, the world's most undecided country

[QUOTE=Joazzz;38105720]yeah i'm quite serious why else would all those people vote for a guy who is just going to majorly fuck over 47% of the people?[/quote] Quite a lot believe Romney is going to majorly fuck over 47% of the population. It's a matter of opinion there, so irrelevant. [QUOTE=Joazzz;38105720] i mean seriously, it's part because of Obama's policies but also part because he's black. why else would we see so many idiots parading around declaring that Obama is a nigger, communist, reptilian etc?[/quote] For one, "communist" and "reptilian" (wat) both have nothing to do with skin color. And I've yet to hear a great deal of the masses call him a "nigger". [QUOTE=Joazzz;38105720] they use every 'fact' about things Obama is/has done they can get their hands on to hide the fact that in reality they don't like his skin color. i've seen many cases of this, should i make a list?[/quote] So they're arguing about his policies to hide the fact that they're actually arguing that he's bad due to being black? What? [QUOTE=Joazzz;38105720]i'm okay with people of other skin tones, because in the end we're all just human beings, but there are those who aren't and you can find a plenty of them in the right wing parties and movements of the US, and those vote for romney[/quote] I highly doubt it, from you.

[QUOTE=Joazzz;38105720]yeah i'm quite serious why else would all those people vote for a guy who is just going to majorly fuck over 47% of the people? i mean seriously, it's part because of Obama's policies but also part because he's black. why else would we see so many idiots parading around declaring that Obama is a nigger, communist, reptilian etc? they use every 'fact' about things Obama is/has done they can get their hands on to hide the fact that in reality they don't like his skin color. i've seen many cases of this, should i make a list? i'm okay with people of other skin tones, because in the end we're all just human beings, but there are those who aren't and you can find a plenty of them in the right wing parties and movements of the US and in the supporters of the aforementioned, and those vote for romney [/QUOTE] No doubt there are people who want him out because he is black, but there is also those who want him in because of the color of the skin. However, if I was to say one of the primary reasons Obama got elected was because he was black, I would get pounced on in a heart beat. You can't say race is a major factor when there isn't any evidence to suggest it other than the fact people don't like him.

[QUOTE=kill3r;38105734]But you asked for proof that his skin color was of any significance, and that image clearly shows that one man believes so. The likelyhood of other fellow americans like himself having the same attitude is very likely, if one guy thinks it, you really think a lot of others wont? Racism is clearly playing some sort of role in the elections, it may be a small part, but it's certainly significant.[/QUOTE] It's not significant. Yeah, there's probably racism in every corner somewhere, but significantly so to affect the election? Obama wouldn't have won in the first place then. [editline]19th October 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;38105758]Go out and talk to people, I've overheard and spoken to plenty of people around my town who simply don't want to vote for Obama because he's a "nigger".[/QUOTE] Cool story. But a story none the less. [editline]19th October 2012[/editline] Here's from a study by the University of California on the 2008 election: [QUOTE]"Our research doesn't support the idea that race is not an issue in other dimensions, or other elections," Moretti said. "But for the most important election of all - the presidential election - the race of the candidate didn't seem to play a role one way or the other."[/quote] Source: [url]http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2009/02/12_postracial.shtml[/url] If it didn't play an aspect in 2008, it [B]definitely[/B] isn't one now.

[QUOTE=kill3r;38105734]But you asked for proof that his skin color was of any significance, and that image clearly shows that one man believes so. The likelyhood of other fellow americans like himself having the same attitude is very likely, if one guy thinks it, you really think a lot of others wont? Racism is clearly playing some sort of role in the elections, it may be a small part, but it's certainly significant.[/QUOTE] I've heard more people say they're voting for Obama because he's black than Romney because he's white. Point is, anecdotal evidence is useless

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;38105763]So they're arguing about his policies to hide the fact that they're actually arguing that he's bad due to being black? What?[/QUOTE]i'm trying to make arguments in a language other than my first here, it's not easy to explain bet you're going to use that against me, something like "lol hiding behind language barrier" [QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;38105763]I highly doubt it, from you.[/QUOTE] because you do know me so well got any further [I]proof[/I] that i'm racist, other than one post? [QUOTE=BusterBluth;38105772]No doubt there are people who want him out because he is black, but there is also those who want him in because of the color of the skin. However, if I was to say one of the primary reasons Obama got elected was because he was black, I would get pounced on in a heart beat. You can't say race is a major factor when there isn't any evidence to suggest it other than the fact people don't like him.[/QUOTE]good points, i'll have to rethink this shit not going to change my opinion completely though

It will be a good day when Romney dies. Edit: Was slightly exaggerating there, still, he's a cunt.

[QUOTE=Joazzz;38105825]i'm trying to make arguments in a language other than my first here, it's not easy to explain bet you're going to use that against me, something like "lol hiding behind language barrier"[/quote] Actually I'm going to use the fact that if English is a second language, odds are you're not an American and probably don't have a clue to what's going on in the US in reality. [QUOTE=Joazzz;38105825]because you do know me so well got any further [I]proof[/I] that i'm racist, other than one post? [/QUOTE] Well all I have is what you said earlier. May not have "more" evidence that you [I]are[/I] a racist but I certainly don't have a lot pointing that you aren't, either. [editline]19th October 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Noss;38105844]It will be a good day when Romney dies.[/QUOTE] I dislike a great deal of people, but there's hardly any human beings on this earth that I actually wish death upon.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;38105849]Actually I'm going to use the fact that if English is a second language, odds are you're not an American and probably don't have a clue to what's going on in the US in reality. Well all I have is what you said earlier. May not have "more" evidence that you [I]are[/I] a racist but I certainly don't have a lot pointing that you aren't, either. [editline]19th October 2012[/editline] I dislike a great deal of people, but there's hardly any human beings on this earth that I actually wish death upon.[/QUOTE] I'm not wishing death upon him. The world is just a better place without bigots, especially those who are in a position of power.

[QUOTE=Noss;38105879]I'm not wishing death upon him. The world is just a better place without bigots, especially those who are in a position of power.[/QUOTE] I don't think I could even wish death on Osama bin Laden let alone a guy like Mitt Romney.

[QUOTE=Noss;38105844]It will be a good day when Romney dies.[/QUOTE] living a lower class life (and paying taxes) would probably be much more tormenting and painful for him [QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;38105849]Actually I'm going to use the fact that if English is a second language, odds are you're not an American and probably don't have a clue to what's going on in the US in reality.[/QUOTE] i follow the happenings of the US through the mass media and the mass media is known to mostly bring out only the good and the bad apples i'll go with a neutral answer if possible [QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;38105849]Well all I have is what you said earlier. May not have "more" evidence that you [I]are[/I] a racist but I certainly don't have a lot pointing that you aren't, either.[/QUOTE] anything i could do to fix that?