I really want Arma 3-- but isn't there a bunch of silly DLC? I heard you can't even fly helicopters without purchasing a DLC... surely that can't be true? This kinda stuff looks so fun but I'm not gonna bend over backwards if they're going the EA route.
[QUOTE=Nifae;48306669]I really want Arma 3-- but isn't there a bunch of silly DLC? I heard you can't even fly helicopters without purchasing a DLC... surely that can't be true? This kinda stuff looks so fun but I'm not gonna bend over backwards if they're going the EA route.[/QUOTE]
i'd like you to think about that statement for a second
the answer should be clear if you spend more than the time it takes to process hearsay
(no, you do not need a dlc for helicopters)
[QUOTE=Nifae;48306669]I really want Arma 3-- but isn't there a bunch of silly DLC? I heard you can't even fly helicopters without purchasing a DLC... surely that can't be true? This kinda stuff looks so fun but I'm not gonna bend over backwards if they're going the EA route.[/QUOTE]
this made me laugh more than the video
[video]https://youtu.be/5GVcqCocrcQ[/video]
[video]https://youtu.be/4bFjREtIGoY[/video]
We are great, come visit us in GGD. :scream:
[QUOTE=Nifae;48306669]I really want Arma 3-- but isn't there a bunch of silly DLC? I heard you can't even fly helicopters without purchasing a DLC... surely that can't be true? This kinda stuff looks so fun but I'm not gonna bend over backwards if they're going the EA route.[/QUOTE]
There are 3 DLCs: Karts, Marksmen, and Helicopters.
Karts adds go-karts, Marksmen adds 7 new long-range focused guns, Helicopters adds 2 new Helicopters focused on logistics and transport.
If you don't buy Karts you can't drive the go-karts. If you don't buy Marksmen, you will get mild pop-ups and notifications when using the DLC guns and scopes, but you can use them fully. If you don't buy Helicopters you cannot pilot or crew the DLC helicopters, but you can still ride in the passenger slots and use the Slingload features in vanilla/modded helicopters.
There is a full complement of Vanilla and Modded content that you can use without any DLCs.
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;48306677]i'd like you to think about that statement for a second
the answer should be clear if you spend more than the time it takes to process hearsay
(no, you do not need a dlc for helicopters)[/QUOTE]
But there is dlc for certain items which will appear in the game and you are blocked from using them.
[QUOTE=IrishBandit;48306936]If you don't buy Helicopters you cannot pilot or crew the DLC helicopters[/QUOTE]
Actually, I think you can still crew the helicopters without the DLC, it's just the pilot and co-pilots seats that are blocked to DLC owners only.
Does anyone remember a facepunch arma vid, i think it was a guy playing his own missions, probably arma 2 but there was like a wall, a small archway and then I think a guy went to try and defuse a bomb then it literally exploded and killed most of the people there, just the timing of the explosion and whatever happened after was hilarious
[QUOTE=Karmah;48306952]But there is dlc for certain items which will appear in the game and you are blocked from using them.[/QUOTE]
It's two specific, scarcely used (in my experience) helicopters that you're unable to crew (Pilot/gunner/crew-chief/loadmaster - You can get in as a passenger whether or not you own the DLC. Scripting commands can be used to move a player into the pilot's seat too.). All other vanilla helos, in addition to the ones added by mods that you inevitably end up using are accessible right of the bat.
Marksmen is a bit different, pretty sure you're unable to use the weapons it adds if you try to pick them up, however if your unit starts off equipped with it it's just a small notification on the right side of your screen. And again, they will be supplanted almost entirely by custom content.
Karts is Karts.
My experience is that the DLC helicopters are just large transport helis and rarely used. The guns in the Marksman DLC are large caliber machineguns and rifles and might be a bit OP on public servers, the karts DLC is pretty much a bit of dumb fun for the editor.
Though Bohemia did bring very good and long demanded features with the DLC that can be used by everyone like bipods, weapon resting, refined recoil behaviour, firing from vehicles, airlifting, an advanced flightmodel and quite a few other things.
If you play Arma 3 in an organized group, chances are that you will never see the DLC content anyway because you are busy with your 20 GB modpack.
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Also is this the place to post FPARMA fuckups? count me in
[hd]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0LxbvGvW7o[/hd]
allahu akbar :blaze:
Some more of our great moments:
[video=youtube;ZMCyd-r6gWI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMCyd-r6gWI[/video]
[video=youtube;l6nFTw_k-Gw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6nFTw_k-Gw[/video]
the marksmen dlc weapons are incredibly OP when put up against vanilla content and in general its a complete son of a bitch for 7 mediocre and unbalanced firearms in a video game to cost 15.99
think about this
if you've been given a marksmen weapon and don't own the dlc... you'll be spammed with pop-ups and overlays covering your screen... and if you put your weapon down for something you'll never be able to pick it back up.
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not to mention they're all chambered in 9.3mm or .338 FUCKYOU winchester (including 2 LMGs) that will kill a plate carrier wearing man in one shot
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they're cool guns but fuck off bohemia
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[B]AND I HOPE DWARDEN READS THIS[/B]
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[highlight]IM TALKING BIG SHIT [/highlight]
[QUOTE=Leon;48312392]the marksmen dlc weapons are incredibly OP when put up against vanilla content and in general its a complete son of a bitch for 7 mediocre and unbalanced firearms in a video game to cost 15.99
think about this
if you've been given a marksmen weapon and don't own the dlc... you'll be spammed with pop-ups and overlays covering your screen... and if you put your weapon down for something you'll never be able to pick it back up.
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not to mention they're all chambered in 9.3mm or .338 FUCKYOU winchester (including 2 LMGs) that will kill a plate carrier wearing man in one shot
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Why are you complaining about weapon balance in a milsim that simulates ballistics. Of course more powerful specialized weapons are going to be more powerful.
[QUOTE=Clavus;48312671]Why are you complaining about weapon balance in a milsim that simulates ballistics. Of course more powerful specialized weapons are going to be more powerful.[/QUOTE]
Because those guns are locked behind a paywall.
[QUOTE=Clavus;48312671]Why are you complaining about weapon balance in a milsim that simulates ballistics. Of course more powerful specialized weapons are going to be more powerful.[/QUOTE]
theyre bullshit
[highlight]!!!!!!!!!!!!![/highlight]
Anyone have that wonderful vid where we had no idea how to operate a guided missile and blew ourselves up during the Arma 3 Alpha
[QUOTE=Leon;48312392]the marksmen dlc weapons are incredibly OP when put up against vanilla content and in general its a complete son of a bitch for 7 mediocre and unbalanced firearms in a video game to cost 15.99
think about this
if you've been given a marksmen weapon and don't own the dlc... you'll be spammed with pop-ups and overlays covering your screen... and if you put your weapon down for something you'll never be able to pick it back up.
[editline]28th July 2015[/editline]
not to mention they're all chambered in 9.3mm or .338 FUCKYOU winchester (including 2 LMGs) that will kill a plate carrier wearing man in one shot
[editline]28th July 2015[/editline]
they're cool guns but fuck off bohemia
[editline]28th July 2015[/editline]
[B]AND I HOPE DWARDEN READS THIS[/B]
[editline]28th July 2015[/editline]
[highlight]IM TALKING BIG SHIT [/highlight][/QUOTE]
Yeah, the aggressive popups need to go. ARMA 2 was never this aggressive when it came to DLC, and the most the game would do is force low res textures on DLC items you don't own. No artificial immersion breaking intrusive pop-ups. If ARMA 3 were more mainsteam it'd be getting mad shit for doing this. Imagine if EA decided to do something similar.
The problem is that Bohemia is trying to make money by selling dlc but also trying to avoid splitting the fanbase up, to prevent people not being able to play with each other because of dlc.
old gold
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34tnU-hhqns[/media]
[QUOTE=dragon1972;48313465]Yeah, the aggressive popups need to go. ARMA 2 was never this aggressive when it came to DLC, and the most the game would do is force low res textures on DLC items you don't own. No artificial immersion breaking intrusive pop-ups. If ARMA 3 were more mainsteam it'd be getting mad shit for doing this. Imagine if EA decided to do something similar.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but this is the best way they could do it - it literally doesn't harm your playing experience, and the DLCs also brought along features that everyone enjoys, like weapon resting and firing from vehicles.
When people say that Arma's dlc model is stupid, I think they actually want the DLC to be entirely free - but that's not possible, at all, and this is the best model I can think of, it allows people to support the devs whilst enjoying additional content.
[QUOTE=Matrix374;48313389]Anyone have that wonderful vid where we had no idea how to operate a guided missile and blew ourselves up during the Arma 3 Alpha[/QUOTE]
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLhp3AZ6Dp0[/media]
[QUOTE=Leon;48312392]the marksmen dlc weapons are incredibly OP when put up against vanilla content and in general its a complete son of a bitch for 7 mediocre and unbalanced firearms in a video game to cost 15.99
think about this
if you've been given a marksmen weapon and don't own the dlc... you'll be spammed with pop-ups and overlays covering your screen... and if you put your weapon down for something you'll never be able to pick it back up.
[editline]28th July 2015[/editline]
not to mention they're all chambered in 9.3mm or .338 FUCKYOU winchester (including 2 LMGs) that will kill a plate carrier wearing man in one shot
[editline]28th July 2015[/editline]
they're cool guns but fuck off bohemia
[editline]28th July 2015[/editline]
[B]AND I HOPE DWARDEN READS THIS[/B]
[editline]28th July 2015[/editline]
[highlight]IM TALKING BIG SHIT [/highlight][/QUOTE]
Why does this matter? Arma is primarily a co-op game and if you're doing TvT the mission designer can just not put in the marksmen guns. Would you rather be unable to use the guns at all?
[QUOTE=SoUl_ReApEr2;48307097]Does anyone remember a facepunch arma vid, i think it was a guy playing his own missions, probably arma 2 but there was like a wall, a small archway and then I think a guy went to try and defuse a bomb then it literally exploded and killed most of the people there, just the timing of the explosion and whatever happened after was hilarious[/QUOTE]
i think i know the video you mean. that was broma tho. can't find it on youtube
I remember that one time I got really high but I was also the only AT guy still up and going while russian APCs showered us in suppressive fire. I bravely climbed a nearby conveyor only to find out that I had no Idea how the AT launcher worked because it had way too many buttons and I was absolutely clueless about the trajectory and zeroing, I practically barely figured out what end the shooty bang bang comes out of so I took a blind, clueless shot and fucking hit the damn thing.
Then we all got murdered by infantry
[QUOTE=H4ngman;48324116]I remember that one time I got really high but I was also the only AT guy still up and going while russian APCs showered us in suppressive fire. I bravely climbed a nearby conveyor only to find out that I had no Idea how the AT launcher worked because it had way too many buttons and I was absolutely clueless about the trajectory and zeroing, I practically barely figured out what end the shooty bang bang comes out of so I took a blind, clueless shot and fucking hit the damn thing.
Then we all got murdered by infantry[/QUOTE]
This one? Jesus that was over 3 years ago.
[video]https://youtu.be/FBQd4rxG0YQ?list=PLx8PKLreyNV3H2CqNsKgtRuNdPHcIwuj W[/video]
3 damn years? Jesus thats a long time ago. I hadn't realized how much time has passed
From that TvT thingy mobober
[video=youtube;y-bzyWyY96Y]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-bzyWyY96Y[/video]
Enemy team in general got shat on pretty hardcore during that op.
My god I miss this.
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