Hassan Rouhani has won the Iranian presidential election:Interior Ministry - Polidicks

[QUOTE]Iranian President Hassan Rouhani has secured the necessary majority in Friday’s election, defeating his conservative rival, Ebrahim Raisi, according to the country’s Interior Minister.Rouhani has secured over 23.549 million votes, while Raisi has garnered around 15.786 million. The rest of the candidates trailed far behind the front-runners, with Mostafa Mirsalim getting 478,215 votes and Mostafa Hashem Taba 219,450 votes at the latest count. Earlier, the Interior Ministry reported that over 40 million ballots were cast by Iranians on Friday, indicating a turnout of 70 percent.Senior Russian Senator Konstantin Kosachev believes that the election results are positive both on the domestic and international fronts.Russian President Vladimir Putin congratulated Rouhani on his convincing victory. In a letter to his counterpart, Putin said that Moscow is ready for further work to develop the bilateral partnership. The Russian leader “expressed confidence in further successful implementation of the agreements, including those reached during the recent official visit of Hassan Rouhani to Russia” to maintain stability and security in the Middle East and in the world, according to official president’s website.[/QUOTE] [IMG]https://cdn.rt.com/files/2017.05/original/592010b2c46188b5598b457f.jpg[/IMG] [url]https://www.rt.com/news/389033-iran-presidential-election-rouhani/[/url] [url]https://www.google.pt/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/05/20/middleeast/iran-rouhani-election/index.html[/url] This is a major turning point in Iranian history,no doubt about it.Hopefully,everything will go even better for the Iranian people from now on.

[QUOTE=Sgt.Kickass;52253207] This is a major turning point in Iranian history,no doubt about it.Hopefully,everything will go even better for the Iranian people from now on.[/QUOTE] Not until they remove their Islamic hateful preaching Supreme Leader.

anecdotally i've heard that the people of Iran are rather more progressive and open-minded than their leaders so this is pretty cool

[QUOTE=DogGunn;52253215]Not until they remove their Islamic hateful preaching Supreme Leader.[/QUOTE] All in due time,my friend.It is up to the people to decide.

Ah yes this is probably the best outcome for Iran now. [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hassan_Rouhani_presidential_campaign,_2017#Positions"]He's advocating for the end of sanctions against Iran, the end to gender discrimination and for un-monitored social media usage[/URL]. Nice guy so far.

[QUOTE=DogGunn;52253215]Not until they remove their Islamic hateful preaching Supreme Leader.[/QUOTE] You can't just "remove" the Supreme Leader. There's a reason why he has that title. This is an amazing first step to Iran consolidating its populace's liberalism in the government, however.

[QUOTE=Omilinon;52253312]You can't just "remove" the Supreme Leader. There's a reason why he has that title.[/QUOTE] When I say remove, I'm referring to another revolution that needs to happen. While Iran is a theocracy it cannot be part of the rest of the world. Which is a shame, because there is no doubt the Persians have a lot to give in terms of technology and research.

[QUOTE=Cone;52253221]anecdotally i've heard that the people of Iran are rather more progressive and open-minded than their leaders so this is pretty cool[/QUOTE] I have family-in-law and some friends that are Iranian. They are nowhere near as conservative as the government would have you think.

[QUOTE=DogGunn;52253215]Not until they remove their Islamic hateful preaching Supreme Leader.[/QUOTE] Well the current Parliament, which is very liberal, is most likely going to be the parliament that chooses a new Supreme Leader, so there's that.

[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;52253408]Well the current Parliament, which is very liberal, is most likely going to be the parliament that chooses a new Supreme Leader, so there's that.[/QUOTE] The Parliament doesn't select the Supreme Leader, the Assembly of Experts does, another legislative branch. All members of that assembly have to be approved by the SL, and are all right wing Islamic based parties.

[QUOTE=DogGunn;52253468]The Parliament doesn't select the Supreme Leader, the Assembly of Experts does, another legislative branch. All members of that assembly have to be approved by the SL, and are all right wing Islamic based parties.[/QUOTE] Yeah the current majority party in the Assembly is the Combatant Clergy Association which was running against Rouhani. Reformists control Presidency and have a majority in Parliament so I'm predicting that the Combatant Clergy/Principlists are gonna do what they can to fuck with the Reformists now by electing radical Supreme Leaders. Also fun fact: [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Assembly_of_Experts_election,_2016#Statistics"]most of the candidates registered for the Assembly of Experts' election last year had no high school diploma[/URL].

bringing back the chart from the other thread [QUOTE=Griffster26;52250316] [t]http://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/Images/2017/5/17/2b5dcfaedbff430d80e653ee0df2b11e_6.jpg[/t] [t]http://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/Images/2017/5/3/8ed14ab24b854c178118ed6fab8ddbb9_6.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] Is it just me or does Iran have a more sensible electoral system than America?

[QUOTE=Lambeth;52253572]bringing back the chart from the other thread Is it just me or does Iran have a more sensible electoral system than America?[/QUOTE] Maybe for President, but for everything else, NO! Preferential voting is the best system for a winner takes all system anyway.

[QUOTE=DogGunn;52253348]When I say remove, I'm referring to [B]another revolution that needs to happen[/B]. While Iran is a theocracy it cannot be part of the rest of the world. Which is a shame, because there is no doubt the Persians have a lot to give in terms of technology and research.[/QUOTE] Surely you realise that's not as simple as you're suggesting. No matter how well intentioned they are, even if the revolution is successful, revolutions can have a habit of making things worse, and if a revolution fails, it almost certainly will.

May this signal a sweeping change in Iran for the better. A democratic and free Iran would be a good thing for the world.

[QUOTE=Griffster26;52253306]Ah yes this is probably the best outcome for Iran now. [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hassan_Rouhani_presidential_campaign,_2017#Positions"]He's advocating for the end of sanctions against Iran, the end to gender discrimination and for un-monitored social media usage[/URL]. Nice guy so far.[/QUOTE] Someone will kill him.

[QUOTE=ZakkShock;52253855]Someone will kill him.[/QUOTE] That may be, but at least someone in government is saying these things, and his victory will hopefully embolden Iranian liberals the same way the US election enabled racists. The Overton window doesn't always have to go to the right.

[QUOTE=ZakkShock;52253855]Someone will kill him.[/QUOTE] And make him a martyr for his cause.

[QUOTE=ZakkShock;52253855]Someone will kill him.[/QUOTE] He's been ruling since 2013 perfectly fine so I don't think they'd try and kill him now.

[QUOTE=Sgt.Kickass;52253207] This is a major turning point in Iranian history,no doubt about it.Hopefully,everything will go even better for the Iranian people from now on.[/QUOTE] This is the same dude that's been President for the past 4 years. How will his re-election be different than his past term?

[QUOTE=Lambeth;52253572]bringing back the chart from the other thread Is it just me or does Iran have a more sensible electoral system than America?[/QUOTE] It's the same system as France, actually. It works pretty well.

[QUOTE=DogGunn;52253468]The Parliament doesn't select the Supreme Leader, the Assembly of Experts does, another legislative branch. All members of that assembly have to be approved by the SL, and are all right wing Islamic based parties.[/QUOTE] Well that's a shame, so the system will never change unless the supreme leader wants it to change, assuming the assembly doesn't get wise and dismiss him at that point.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;52254317]Well that's a shame, so the system will never change unless the supreme leader wants it to change, assuming the assembly doesn't get wise and dismiss him at that point.[/QUOTE] You think someone with the title of Supreme Leader is going to let his power go away? This is why Iran looks like it should be going progressive but still does dumb shit like being a state sponsor of terrorism. Iran's leadership is bipolar and needs real reform.

I have a friend who lives in Tehran and she says in the west we're overblowing how good Rouhani actually is. He's the best option they have, but he still listens to the supreme leader so the chance of him actually making any radical reforms is pretty low. And his government hasn't really be able to do much for Iran's economy or the serious unemployment problem they have, even though he promised them the nuclear deal would help solve these problems.

Glad the rest of the world is still heading the right way despite our world "leaders" regressions and fuck ups

[QUOTE=Lollipoopdeck;52255178]Glad the rest of the world is still heading the right way despite our world "leaders" regressions and fuck ups[/QUOTE] Iran has a long way to go before I'll ever consider it a progressive modern country. Iran is going in the right way but has miles to go before it will ever be on par to even the most remotely Western country.

[QUOTE=OvB;52255421]Iran has a long way to go before I'll ever consider it a progressive modern country. Iran is going in the right way but has miles to go before it will ever be on par to even the most remotely Western country.[/QUOTE] It'll be a long road but it's still a matter of when not if at this point.

[QUOTE=Rufia;52253711]Surely you realise that's not as simple as you're suggesting. No matter how well intentioned they are, even if the revolution is successful, revolutions can have a habit of making things worse, and if a revolution fails, it almost certainly will.[/QUOTE] I never said it was simple, nor did I suggest it's going to happen overnight. This is definitely the step in the right direction, but I cannot imagine Iran changing without a revolution and I doubt it would be bloodless.