You're trying to play Westinghouse as a villainous businessman stealing inventions and taking credit for other people's ideas? In a movie about [I]Edison[/I]? Are we going to include the part where Edison electrocutes an elephant and tries to get everybody to call electrocution "being westinghoused"?
Starring Bumberdinkle Cucumberpatch as genius guy for the millionth time. Talk about being typecast.
To quote Nikola Tesla,
[quote]He [Edison] had no hobby, cared for no sort of amusement of any kind and lived in utter disregard of the most elementary rules of hygiene ... His method was inefficient in the extreme, for an immense ground had to be covered to get anything at all unless blind chance intervened and, at first, I was almost a sorry witness of his doings, knowing that just a little theory and calculation would have saved him 90 percent of the labor. But he had a veritable contempt for book learning and mathematical knowledge, trusting himself entirely to his inventor's instinct and practical American sense.[/quote]
The Oatmeal has a really good comic as for why Tesla > Edison
[url]http://theoatmeal.com/comics/tesla[/url]
[QUOTE=Reds;52660455]You're trying to play Westinghouse as a villainous businessman stealing inventions and taking credit for other people's ideas? In a movie about [I]Edison[/I]? Are we going to include the part where Edison electrocutes an elephant and tries to get everybody to call electrocution "being westinghoused"?
Starring Bumberdinkle Cucumberpatch as genius guy for the millionth time. Talk about being typecast.[/QUOTE]
Judging from Tesla's inclusion I imagine the first half will be about how Edison worked on direct current and built connections, acting as though he's the underdog compared to Westinghouse. Then it'll introduce Tesla and show how Edison was actually a pretty shitty person with people from the first have of the film slowly turning on Edison until the end where he fails to get direct current implemented as the standard for distribution.
[QUOTE=Reds;52660455]You're trying to play Westinghouse as a villainous businessman stealing inventions and taking credit for other people's ideas? In a movie about [I]Edison[/I]? [B]Are we going to include the part where Edison electrocutes an elephant and tries to get everybody to call electrocution "being westinghoused"?[/B]
Starring Bumberdinkle Cucumberpatch as genius guy for the millionth time. Talk about being typecast.[/QUOTE]
Aaaactually.. as much as I hate edison, he didn't electrocute the elephant.
Yes an elephant was electrocuted, but not by edison. It was electrocuted as part of a public execution spectacle because that elephant had killed several people because it was a moody angry jerk.
I still don't agree with it, and edison had no issue taking the publicity and using it against tesla and westinghouse, but he didn't do it.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;52660514]Aaaactually.. as much as I hate edison, he didn't electrocute the elephant.
Yes an elephant was electrocuted, but not by edison. It was electrocuted as part of a public execution spectacle because that elephant had killed several people because it was a moody angry jerk.
I still don't agree with it, and edison had no issue taking the publicity and using it against tesla and westinghouse, but he didn't do it.[/QUOTE]
But didn't he invent or at least had a hand in the the invention of the electric chair?
[QUOTE=Bbarnes005;52660590]But didn't he invent or at least had a hand in the the invention of the electric chair?[/QUOTE]
The only thing he invented was a thing that sucks your face. Everything else was stolen
[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;52660604]The only thing he invented was a thing that sucks your face. Everything else was stolen[/QUOTE]
kinky
This is looking like yet another Edison propaganda piece, and that makes me mad.
Also Bendydick Cabbagepatch was not a good choice.
[QUOTE=buu342;52660463]The Oatmeal has a really good comic as for why Tesla > Edison
[url]http://theoatmeal.com/comics/tesla[/url][/QUOTE]
This thing sucks. It got some things correct but really fell apart when it got into the unsubstantiated claims like the earthquake machine, on demand ball lightning, and free energy conspiracy theories that don't understand the issues with the proposed system.
It even lies about why the wireless energy system failed, which actually happened because funding dried up because he drastically changed the initial proposition for what the system would be.
It even manages to be dishonest about how Tesla thought his radar-like would work in order to bolster that he came up with a similar idea.
There are so many great things that Tesla did that could have been pointed to that to stretch the truth and lie only makes a weaker case detracting from his brilliance.
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;52660821]This thing sucks. It got some things correct but really fell apart when it got into the unsubstantiated claims like the earthquake machine, on demand ball lightning, and free energy conspiracy theories that don't understand the issues with the proposed system.
It even lies about why the wireless energy system failed, which actually happened because funding dried up because he drastically changed the initial proposition for what the system would be.
It even manages to be dishonest about how Tesla thought his radar-like would work in order to bolster that he came up with a similar idea.
There are so many great things that Tesla did that could have been pointed to that to stretch the truth and lie only makes a weaker case detracting from his brilliance.[/QUOTE]
Oatmeal responded to that:
[url]http://theoatmeal.com/blog/tesla_response[/url]
Here's some info on the earthquake machine and ball lightning, with diagrams and references
[url]http://www.rexresearch.com/teslamos/tmosc.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/esp_tesla_20.htm[/url]
Though the wireless energy one is completely innacurate. Only information I can find about it is that by 1904, investment dried up and the Wardenclyffe Tower was never finished, no information as to why though.
I'll take a look through that and come back with anything I have.
As for the Wardenclyffe Tower, it's in the top of the wiki article for it and covered in further detail in the World Wireless System article. The latter is poorly cited but I'm able to find the same information in other sources as well by searching for stuff like "Tesla JP Morgan tower"
The earthquake machine was tested [I]kinda[/I] on mythbusters with an adjustable magnetic oscillator. They strapped it to a bridge and played with it to try and find the bridge's resonant frequency. It took like 3 hours or something but they found a sweet spot where the vibrations could be felt over 100ft down the bridge and it was certainly noticable, but nothing groundbreaking.
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