• Apologies Suck
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[video=youtube;EJxCPiChtPI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJxCPiChtPI&feature=relmfu[/video]
Is it just me or does it seem like he's getting angrier?
I get the sinking feeling this is just his way of escaping from apologising or even acknowledging his whole begging escapade.
I agree with him, but am I the only one that finds his videos seriously irritating?
Although he makes some good points here and there he really needs to take a chill pill. It was funny at first, but as he makes more videos it's just getting more and more unsettling
I actually quite like the rage, brings out his funny side.
He's right. Sincerity in America is like Albinos in Afrika. It's there, but when found, it's killed off in grizzly ways and sold off at the market because people believe it'll keep them safe from harm. Sincerity can't exist in a culture where everything comes down to social status. Sorry. [editline]8th August 2011[/editline] Why should anyone apologize if they don't mean it? and why do people accept this and let them keep their "status"? A society can't improve if all people expect from you is to excel at faking sincerity, religion and education. The hell 'murica? [editline]8th August 2011[/editline] Lastly. Who the fuck are you to demand an apology for something that wasn't committed against you and has ZERO relevance to your existence? America. Why does your culture seem so ass-backwards and just WHY are you referred to as a western culture when the only Western thing about you is your location... Which is actually relative and could just as well be East instead. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwoqzb5R6vw[/media] Related since it's the other side of the same issue. The whole "we gotta force our shit on everyone else" Thing that radical people practice. The whole solution to this whole thing seems to be just what NO ONE seems capable of. Just leave each other the fuck alone and be fucking reasonable. Co-Existence is IMPOSSIBLE it seems.
I like the part where he said "fuck". Seriously, cut the rage, it doesn't make your argument better.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;31593555]I like the part where he said "fuck". Seriously, cut the rage, it doesn't make your argument better.[/QUOTE]It actually does. Mostly because he doesn't hide his opinion behind a smug attitude and therefore delivers what he's pissed at everyone for NOT delivering: Sincerity and no tacked on shit for show. But i bet he'd be happy to smug you and apology. [editline]8th August 2011[/editline] agree with him. I have gotten like 56000 apologies these past 10 years that has NOTHING to do with me. 90% of these came from Official statements originating in America. It's like me saying i'm sorry that i was speeding. Why should you care and why do i suddenly owe you anything? Because Bible...
What I meant by that was, he doesn't get to be so piped up and screamy. He just needs to be calm and collective and bring his point forward. I agree with him, but seriously, cut the crap.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;31593555]I like the part where he said "fuck". Seriously, cut the rage, it doesn't make your argument better.[/QUOTE] I kinda hate how everyone just rants on his personality. If he didn't rage and sat there all smug about it you call him a bigot, when he's angry and sincere about something which deserves sincerity you say hes too angry. Your also forgetting that anger is part of his humor and delivery hes trying to show the stupidity of something through use of over-exaggerating. Stop being so sensitive about it, and focus your attention on what he's saying rather than how hes saying it.
How am I being sensitive? I'm just saying that he needs to calm down!
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;31594501]It's just a word, dude. Whether it's for show or not, it's not like he was monotone the entire time.[/QUOTE] It just felt overdone. I understand his opinion, and I'm just as angry, but it's pretty annoying to hear "fuck" every other sentence, as he rants at the top of his lungs. If he were calmer and more collective, he'd have [I]much[/I] more respect.
History shows us that Passionate speakers take the moment whereas the reasoning speaker wins eternity. Still, It adds to his point.
TAA is like if Fred were an outspoken atheist. I side with almost everything he says but it's just really annoying and watching his face is almost embarrassing for some reason.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;31594575]If he were calmer and more collective, he'd have [I]much[/I] more respect.[/QUOTE] He's not looking for respect, he's not looking for anything. He doesn't give a shit what people think, that's what makes him such a good Vlogger. He just makes videos, speaks his mind, and fuck everyone who opposes him. That's why I enjoy his videos so much. He's not interested in gaining some social status and he enjoys what he does with a passion. I just love watching people hate him because he's obnoxious about things that are so true and his attitude fits those contexts perfectly.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;31594575]but it's pretty annoying to hear "fuck" every other sentence[/QUOTE] Sounds like you personally dislike him for some other reason
[QUOTE=Dark-Energy;31597140]He's not looking for respect, he's not looking for anything. He doesn't give a shit what people think, that's what makes him such a good Vlogger. He just makes videos, speaks his mind, and fuck everyone who opposes him. That's why I enjoy his videos so much. He's not interested in gaining some social status and he enjoys what he does with a passion. I just love watching people hate him because he's obnoxious about things that are so true and his attitude fits those contexts perfectly.[/QUOTE] Despite the fact that he removed a video when people didn't like it and ignored its existance? Yeah, tough bastard. He failed to respond to any videos calling him out on it, either. His shtick is that he is perfectly comfortable in calling out things bigger than him, that can't possibly respond (social phenomena, Justin Bieber, celebrities) but you'll find he never goes for anyone with higher than 500 subscribers.
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;31598406]What video did he remove?[/QUOTE] It was a video telling people to donate money to him for a new camera. If you want, I can probably get a mirror. [video=youtube;wpLAERmD83I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpLAERmD83I&feature=related[/video] Keep in mind he makes $500 per video on average AFAIK, not including ad revenue, and he makes on average 3-5 videos a month.
[QUOTE=CheeseMan;31598445]It was a video telling people to donate money to him for a new camera. If you want, I can probably get a mirror.[/QUOTE] what a dumb douche. Really, no matter how popular I get one of my own youtube accounts, I'm never asking for money. MAYBE a partnership, NEVER ask from viewers.
[I]"...And for all you people out there who are gonna complain about us raising money, and I know that this happens whenever we do something like this, whenever we do a big event where we raise money like this, you know, we're a lot like PBS or NPR in that we cannot survive and grow and expand all on our own. We make enough money on youtube to sustain our lives. We make enough money to get up every day and have a roof over our heads. And that's great. That's wonderful But we don't have enough money to get the equipment we need, we don't have enough money to invest in the production values that are gonna keep us on top of the youtube games and keep our position from being stolen by people who honestly have a lot less to say"[/I] Filming and editing 1-10 minute videos does not qualify as a job. The editing would take five hours at most, since all you do is insert jump-cuts, and filming would take half a day at the maximum, and that's for huge videos. He releases one or two videos a week, meaning that he probably has 2-3 days of free time. That's ample time to get a fucking job and earn your own fucking equipment. He also thinks he's as important as PBS or another large network, that actually requires donations for real reasons other than the owner's decision that he's too "intelligent and amazing" to get his hands dirty in a real occupation on the side of his youtube job. And that's the truth, in all probability he thinks he's too great to do "prole work". All this shouting into a camera has turned him into an egotist of the highest possible scale, IMO. [editline]8th August 2011[/editline] basically he's a massive, egotistical cunt, but he's an entertaining cunt. take that as you will, but it's true.
[QUOTE=Bomimo;31591271]He's right. Sincerity in America is like Albinos in Afrika. It's there, but when found, it's killed off in grizzly ways and sold off at the market because people believe it'll keep them safe from harm. Sincerity can't exist in a culture where everything comes down to social status. Sorry. [editline]8th August 2011[/editline] Why should anyone apologize if they don't mean it? and why do people accept this and let them keep their "status"? A society can't improve if all people expect from you is to excel at faking sincerity, religion and education. The hell 'murica? [editline]8th August 2011[/editline] Lastly. Who the fuck are you to demand an apology for something that wasn't committed against you and has ZERO relevance to your existence? America. Why does your culture seem so ass-backwards and just WHY are you referred to as a western culture when the only Western thing about you is your location... Which is actually relative and could just as well be East instead. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwoqzb5R6vw[/media] Related since it's the other side of the same issue. The whole "we gotta force our shit on everyone else" Thing that radical people practice. The whole solution to this whole thing seems to be just what NO ONE seems capable of. Just leave each other the fuck alone and be fucking reasonable. Co-Existence is IMPOSSIBLE it seems.[/QUOTE] Don't talk shit about the whole, because of the few. Remember, there are still quite a lot of competent, sensible people in power and throughout the country, the fuckasses are more vocal and, as such, more noticed.
were does he live where he can yell like that?
[QUOTE=eatdembeanz;31599276]Don't talk shit about the whole, because of the few. Remember, there are still quite a lot of competent, sensible people in power and throughout the country, the fuckasses are more vocal and, as such, more noticed.[/QUOTE]So? What does it matter that some of you have brains when you refuse to use them against those that do not? I know i'm being harsh and you may be offended. You have no right to be offended when you just accept the state your country is in and how it works. You can SEE how broken it is and you still just clap your little hands and go on like nothing. (this is on a major scale, not you as an individual.) Your prisons are loaded with people that the "theocrats" exploit. They are punished rather than rehabilitated, which leads to a whopping 4 million Americans behind bars and 8k in solitary confinement. 20% of you live under the poverty line, in ghettos with kids wielding gangsta guns in gangwars. Education still is trying to figure itself out. Are we going to do Bible or Evolution? an issue the rest of the world solved ages ago. You still have schools pushing the bible as a reputable historical source AND scientific source. All of this could be fixed if your Theocrats (republicans) would agree to rebalance the tax burden to those that can handle it and rebalance the budgets to prioritize the welfare of the population above their own pockets. But they won't because they're greedy fucks. They run the public sector as if it was a private corporation. they'll tell the population that "god forbids" welfare and the dumbshit population will vote for them "because jesus" and not even check their bible OR their common sense. We haven't even touched on Racial issues or the general disrespect for OTHER religions and ideologies. I mean, a FUCKING CROSS on the twin towers? Yeah. You don't have a state religion, religion does NOT belong on state property. This is before we even touch on the whole "socialism is the nigger satanist conspiracy" thing. Can you see this? This is absolutely badshit insane and no one does anything about such people! It's like fucking Africa except you're blessed with the ability to ignore it thanks to a thriving economy and middle-upper class. That's over now though. What does it change that it's just 20% when they get away with it? You're all guilty of this. Wether it be the actually mentally impaired people with bibles or the clueless people who don't do anything and don't want me to offend their country as a whole because of a minority, it's all of you. If there are more sensible people in power. Then why aren't they doing anything? I'd love to know that. If your instinct, when you're told/advised that your country is in an unacceptable state, is to get offended and demand an apology, then you're an egocentric idiot. Take the criticism to heart, vote with your brain and try to improve things. You don't earn respect from anyone by distancing yourself from the situation, you earn it by improving the situation. Here in MY country the Liberals have been selling off the Public sector to privates and it's been deteriorating since 2001. Now the people are in an uproar about it and we're sure to get a socialist majority at our next election and we'll hopefully be able to restore our Welfare to its original status. We don't accomplish this by whining in a corner about not being the one that fucked it up, do we? But then again, Denmark is an actual Democracy with more than two parties... Sorry about the profanity tough. I'll give you that.
Public apologies might suck, but private ones don't if you have any respect for other people.
[QUOTE=Bomimo;31605780]So? What does it matter that some of you have brains when you refuse to use them against those that do not? I know i'm being harsh and you may be offended. You have no right to be offended when you just accept the state your country is in and how it works. You can SEE how broken it is and you still just clap your little hands and go on like nothing. (this is on a major scale, not you as an individual.) Your prisons are loaded with people that the "theocrats" exploit. They are punished rather than rehabilitated, which leads to a whopping 4 million Americans behind bars and 8k in solitary confinement. 20% of you live under the poverty line, in ghettos with kids wielding gangsta guns in gangwars. Education still is trying to figure itself out. Are we going to do Bible or Evolution? an issue the rest of the world solved ages ago. You still have schools pushing the bible as a reputable historical source AND scientific source. All of this could be fixed if your Theocrats (republicans) would agree to rebalance the tax burden to those that can handle it and rebalance the budgets to prioritize the welfare of the population above their own pockets. But they won't because they're greedy fucks. They run the public sector as if it was a private corporation. they'll tell the population that "god forbids" welfare and the dumbshit population will vote for them "because jesus" and not even check their bible OR their common sense. We haven't even touched on Racial issues or the general disrespect for OTHER religions and ideologies. I mean, a FUCKING CROSS on the twin towers? Yeah. You don't have a state religion, religion does NOT belong on state property. This is before we even touch on the whole "socialism is the nigger satanist conspiracy" thing. Can you see this? This is absolutely badshit insane and no one does anything about such people! It's like fucking Africa except you're blessed with the ability to ignore it thanks to a thriving economy and middle-upper class. That's over now though. What does it change that it's just 20% when they get away with it? You're all guilty of this. Wether it be the actually mentally impaired people with bibles or the clueless people who don't do anything and don't want me to offend their country as a whole because of a minority, it's all of you. If there are more sensible people in power. Then why aren't they doing anything? I'd love to know that. If your instinct, when you're told/advised that your country is in an unacceptable state, is to get offended and demand an apology, then you're an egocentric idiot. Take the criticism to heart, vote with your brain and try to improve things. You don't earn respect from anyone by distancing yourself from the situation, you earn it by improving the situation. Here in MY country the Liberals have been selling off the Public sector to privates and it's been deteriorating since 2001. Now the people are in an uproar about it and we're sure to get a socialist majority at our next election and we'll hopefully be able to restore our Welfare to its original status. We don't accomplish this by whining in a corner about not being the one that fucked it up, do we? But then again, Denmark is an actual Democracy with more than two parties... Sorry about the profanity tough. I'll give you that.[/QUOTE] Hur Hur, I am a mad European who doesn't know shit about America besides the stereotypical "hur they're all bible thumpers" stereotype. Is the conclusion I draw from your little fit. I had a long thought out post to reply to this, but re-reading your post made me realize how screwed up your full perspective is on the world when you try to put americans to shame because "no one does anything about such people" who shout conspiracy theories. I also love your "my country is so great cause we're an actual democracy, BUT! our country has been going downhill since 2001! we'll surely put them whipper snappers in their place"
This guy is one of the most agreeable guys I've ever seen.
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;31607018]Hur Hur, I am a mad European who doesn't know shit about America besides the stereotypical "hur they're all bible thumpers" stereotype. Is the conclusion I draw from your little fit. I had a long thought out post to reply to this, but re-reading your post made me realize how screwed up your full perspective is on the world when you try to put americans to shame because "no one does anything about such people" who shout conspiracy theories. I also love your "my country is so great cause we're an actual democracy, BUT! our country has been going downhill since 2001! we'll surely put them whipper snappers in their place"[/QUOTE]At least we're living within out means. At least we're going up hill. Our low is not even NEAR what you were at before the crash. WE don't accept people living under the poverty line, We rehabilitate our criminals and we try to keep the wheels spinning. How about you look up just WHAT our low is before you try to drag us down on YOUR level. Sorry, but Scandinavia is where life-quality is at its highest in this world. Oh yeah, and we keep religion out of politics too. Come back when you're in a position to bark at me. Till' then, How about you get your country back on track. What we all want is for everyone to have a good life. or at least within a set standard. That is not so in America. Call me a "mad european" if you want. But i'm a mad european in a country where i KNOW everything the state does is within 100% common sense. Where news networks push the actual truth without stupid-shit spins on it and where anything dealing with civil rights (health system, public transport, cultural preservation, social care and education) is handled by the agency with population welfare in mind rather than their own pockets. This is what a public sector is for. It's everything you need to keep living standards on a great level and it's everything you let religious nuts and conservative exploitive assholes keep from you. I'd be all fine and dandy with this if you were just some no-name state in Africa. But you're not. You're the country forcing human rights down everyone else's throats. I fucking HATE hypocrisy, I HATE egoism and i HATE people who let them selves be manipulated easily. Cut away all the stereotypes and you're still left with a country that's a shit place to be for a good chunk of the population. I don't have time for you being butthurt about my way of expressing myself. Deal with it and grow up. Again, If you finding me offensive makes you unable to see the point, then you're an idiot and should stop voting. [url]http://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/income_wealth/cb10-144.html[/url] That's the state of your country two years ago. How do you think it's off to day? [editline]8th August 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=labbet;31599371]were does he live where he can yell like that?[/QUOTE]America.
[QUOTE=Bomimo;31607622]At least we're living within out means. At least we're going up hill. Our low is not even NEAR what you were at before the crash. WE don't accept people living under the poverty line, We rehabilitate our criminals and we try to keep the wheels spinning. How about you look up just WHAT our low is before you try to drag us down on YOUR level. Sorry, but Scandinavia is where life-quality is at its highest in this world. Oh yeah, and we keep religion out of politics too. Come back when you're in a position to bark at me. Till' then, How about you get your country back on track. What we all want is for everyone to have a good life. or at least within a set standard. That is not so in America. Call me a "mad european" if you want. But i'm a mad european in a country where i KNOW everything the state does is within 100% common sense. Where news networks push the actual truth without stupid-shit spins on it and where anything dealing with civil rights (health system, public transport, cultural preservation, social care and education) is handled by the agency with population welfare in mind rather than their own pockets. This is what a public sector is for. It's everything you need to keep living standards on a great level and it's everything you let religious nuts and conservative exploitive assholes keep from you. I'd be all fine and dandy with this if you were just some no-name state in Africa. But you're not. You're the country forcing human rights down everyone else's throats. I fucking HATE hypocrisy, I HATE egoism and i HATE people who let them selves be manipulated easily. Cut away all the stereotypes and you're still left with a country that's a shit place to be for a good chunk of the population. I don't have time for you being butthurt about my way of expressing myself. Deal with it and grow up. Again, If you finding me offensive makes you unable to see the point, then you're an idiot and should stop voting. [url]http://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/income_wealth/cb10-144.html[/url] That's the state of your country two years ago. How do you think it's off to day? [editline]8th August 2011[/editline] America.[/QUOTE] I love how you say I'm butthurt when you write these long posts full of rage. Also buddy, Scandinavian countries are much easier to govern than america. Fewer people, less problems. But If i am correct, I've heard a lot of talks about Scandinavian having immigration and social problems. Some of these are apparent with violent political protests (see The Oslo riot in 2009). [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD_1PFbhAKI[/media] also you got some shit roads in some places according to this bloke. [url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1114606-The-rules-for-driving-in-western-Norway[/url] I've also seen a lot of native Scandinavians on FP, mostly Norwegians, complaining about how they are socially below/second class compared to immigrants. Hell, most Norwegians I talk to tell me about a practice the public news papers do, were they will gray scale a picture so they can make false claims that the suspect is a different race than what he actually is. (most the time they claim the suspect is of Nordic descent. The last part, about social issues isn't something I can confirm 100%, because I don't live in norway, but I can easily say the same for you. You can't fully grasp the social issues/situation by just reading European news papers or reading shit from the internet. Stop thinking Scandinavian countries are the end game of countries, you guys obviously got some serious social issues, and political issues as well. Though to be honest, I would much rather live in a Scandinavian country, but to say America is shit and my country is awesome hur hur, is asinine.
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;31609097]I love how you say I'm butthurt when you write these long posts full of rage. Also buddy, Scandinavian countries are much easier to govern than america. Fewer people, less problems. But If i am correct, I've heard a lot of talks about Scandinavian having immigration and social problems. Some of these are apparent with violent political protests (see The Oslo riot in 2009). [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD_1PFbhAKI[/media] also you got some shit roads in some places according to this bloke. [url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1114606-The-rules-for-driving-in-western-Norway[/url] I've also seen a lot of native Scandinavians on FP, mostly Norwegians, complaining about how they are socially below/second class compared to immigrants. Hell, most Norwegians I talk to tell me about a practice the public news papers do, were they will gray scale a picture so they can make false claims that the suspect is a different race than what he actually is. (most the time they claim the suspect is of Nordic descent. The last part, about social issues isn't something I can confirm 100%, because I don't live in norway, but I can easily say the same for you. You can't fully grasp the social issues/situation by just reading European news papers or reading shit from the internet. Stop thinking Scandinavian countries are the end game of countries, you guys obviously got some serious social issues, and political issues as well. Though to be honest, I would much rather live in a Scandinavian country, but to say America is shit and my country is awesome hur hur, is asinine.[/QUOTE]The point wasn't that My country is awesome and purrfect. It was that it's way better off than yours is and i think it's the obvious direction to take. I take issue with no one wanting to take it. What Norways problem is, is that they're trying to send a signal of Racial fairness. Logic tells us that to make the minorities feel less "targeted" they have to target their own for a while. This leads to what you see right there. It's a bad attempt at "playing fair" i guess. They want ultimate equality and to get that, they think they must first beat down the majority and elevate the minority so they're at the same level. It's the solution they've got and i haven't really got any smart-ass comment on that. What you've gotta remember is that both Norway and Sweden is an area as long as Rome to Skagen. They're respectively 6 and 8 million people to pay for and maintain that area. This means that neglect is bound to happen. The American wealth and density is actually enough to maintain theirs, they just spend it elsewhere. Denmark kind of walks free because we're the size of Florida. It's easier to maintain for 5 million people. The public sector over here still is something yours should strive to even emulate at any level. We're not ultimate, but i believe that it's obvious that we're headed the right direction towards equality, welfare and life-quality. Foreign policy here is a problem. The only real problem. The problem is that Right-Wings want all immigrants to forget their own culture and just accept ours. "Fuck the noon-prayer, Fuck the Ramadan, fuck hanukkah, fuck it all. Over here we do christmas and you damn well do it too!". They call it integration, but the definition is Assimilation and has shit-all to do with integration. What's worse is that people with traumas, Mental, are "pushed" into labor because "there's nothing wrong with them! They're just faking it for the social care!" Then when they stop showing up because they're forced into labor that they can't handle mentally, we just cut their social check "That'll show dem sandniggers!" What we should be doing is offer Mental care and Education for them to join our society and practice it however they feel they want to and let them lead good lives. The reason WHY they're treated harshly is because these Right-Wingers fear the "extreme muslim" mentality with oppressed women and honor killings and all that, which has happened here. So they just treat every last one of them as a religious fanatic and tries to beat it out of them. That is the scandinavian issue these past 5 years and it is what happens when you have too few social workers because the liberals took control in '01 and took a ton of cues from Bush in cutting budgets everywhere in the public sector (a republican). Because our head of state just "loved" the capitalistic system and how "balanced" it was. So we could, and ARE pretty annoyed with the American system since it rubs off on us when an economist becomes head of state. Now we're going to spend a few years restoring that. In the end it comes back to conservatives being dumb shits and Liberals being impressed by a system that is worse than our own. I bet you didn't know your political position affected ANYTHING at all? I HOPE we get a social-democrat majority by the next election. They have better social insight and actual relevant educations. I mean... A BANKER running a country!?
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