• Looks Like Trump might have already lost the general election
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The video here was created by Destiny, an ex-pro sc2 player and streamer. However, I feel like he talks about a lot of good things here. [video]https://youtu.be/NliYCU7w3nk[/video] I'm going to leave a table of contents too, because different people can probably hear what they want out of this, but the whole thing is recommended. 0-2:45 - Current issues Trump faces in the election (cash and polls) 2:45-6:00 - Expectatons of Trump in General vs Reality as we go toward the General 6:00-9:25 - Why Trump will fail in the election 9:25- 12:55 - Talking about how much he hates Clinton, calling her the antithesis of a leader 12:55-15:00 - Discusses why the conservatives are a failing party, creating nearly a 1 party system currently. Talks about why he is no longer a conservative To end- Fixing the party
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[QUOTE=Episode;50662548][img]http://i.imgur.com/MxQu4Ub.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] He actually expected Trump to win earlier this year [video]https://youtu.be/pu4MSA0KlyE[/video] Says so within the first 50 seconds so you don't need to watch much.
[QUOTE=KillRay;50662456]0-2:45 - Current issues Trump faces in the election ([B]cash [/B]and polls)[/QUOTE] lmao
I mean his opinion doesn't really carry that much weight because hes an ex-pro SC player but I think hes right on a few points. Mostly that the republican party needs to grow up and Hilarys total lack of a spine.
[QUOTE=Saxon;50662652]I mean his opinion doesn't really carry that much weight because hes an ex-pro SC player but I think hes right on a few points. Mostly that the republican party needs to grow up[/QUOTE] and grow a backbone
you quoted me before I could edit my post NOW LOOK AT WHAT YOU MADE ME DO
[QUOTE=RichyZ;50662622]Its true tho, his campaign is broke as fuck rn[/QUOTE] [URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/07/06/trump-raises-51-million-with-gop-in-june-including-26-million-for-his-campaign/"]Its not true tho, he raised 51 million in June[/URL]
[QUOTE=-nesto-;50662671][URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/07/06/trump-raises-51-million-with-gop-in-june-including-26-million-for-his-campaign/"]Its not true tho, he raised 51 million in June[/URL][/QUOTE] Obama's 2012 campaign cost roughly $1 BILLION, and Romney's cost $1.24 Billion. $51 million is a drop in the bucket of what will be necessary. It'd be different if Hillary's campaign wasn't as loaded as it is, but he needs to be able to match that and he (so far) hasn't been able to. He literally has 5ish months left to raise money, and if he can only raise $50 million a month he is toast.
[QUOTE=Wafflemonstr;50662716]Obama's 2012 campaign cost roughly $1 BILLION, and Romney's cost $1.24 Billion. $51 million is a drop in the bucket of what will be necessary. It'd be different if Hillary's campaign wasn't as loaded as it is, but he needs to be able to match that and he (so far) hasn't been able to. He literally has 5ish months left to raise money, and if he can only raise $50 million a month he is toast.[/QUOTE] Yeah yeah, we've already heard the "lol there's no way he's spending enough to win an election" [img]http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-MG844_SpendS_G_20160125195212.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Wafflemonstr;50662716]Obama's 2012 campaign cost roughly $1 BILLION, and Romney's cost $1.24 Billion. $51 million is a drop in the bucket of what will be necessary. It'd be different if Hillary's campaign wasn't as loaded as it is, but he needs to be able to match that and he (so far) hasn't been able to. He literally has 5ish months left to raise money, and if he can only raise $50 million a month he is toast.[/QUOTE] He raised the bulk of the 51 in just 10 days. Hilary raised something like 68m in June with the entire DNC powerhouse behind her. He's fine.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;50662747]Dunno how any of that disproves what i said, he still broke af tho[/QUOTE] Tbh he doesn't need tons of cash for his campaign, the media's doing pretty much all the publicity work for him, hell, even Hillary Clinton has Trump's name in one of her many mottos (iirc it's "Love Trump's Hate"), what's the point of him spending millions on screen time, directors, actors, sets, etc, when the media and even his competitor is doing it for free? Plus the whole raised $51 million in 10 days thing, the dude probably has at least 2 billion in investments, he could liquidate 5% of that and pretty much be set for the rest of his campaign in a last case scenario. Edit: imo Trump's gonna be the next president, he has one hell of a knack for public speaking and being able to shift a conversation to whatever subject he desires etc, also there is so much dirt on the Clintons, and you can bet your ass Trump's gonna be digging it all up and throwing it everywhere. I genuinely believe Trump's a lot smarter than most people percieve, and wont completely destroy the country if he becomes president, there's no way a dumbass who can't hold his ground could grow a real estate empire worth billions.
I understand this is probably not the kind of video for Facepunch, but you can't really say that he's objectively wrong about much in this video.
[QUOTE=Toro;50662875]I genuinely believe Trump's a lot smarter than most people percieve, and wont completely destroy the country if he becomes president, there's no way a dumbass who can't hold his ground could grow a real estate empire worth billions.[/QUOTE] you believe wrong, friendo. sure, trump may be able to rake in money for his business, but the united states government isn't a business and [I]sure as shit shouldn't be treated like one.[/I]
People think Trump can't get Mexico to pay for the wall, but he already has Clinton making ads for him: [video]https://youtube.com/watch?v=8YINooPV7jM[/video] And the media will publish and broadcast whatever he puts out. I think he'll be just fine.
[QUOTE=orgornot;50663368]People think Trump can't get Mexico to pay for the wall, but he already has Clinton making ads for him: [video]https://youtube.com/watch?v=8YINooPV7jM[/video] And the media will publish and broadcast whatever he puts out. I think he'll be just fine.[/QUOTE] While I agree that trump gets free publicity how the fuck do you think mexico will EVER agree to pay for such a ludicrous proposal.
[QUOTE=Radical_ed;50663526]how the fuck do you think mexico will EVER agree to pay for such a ludicrous proposal.[/QUOTE] bully them lmao trump thinks that when he's in power America will automatically be the premier nation on earth and therefore has a right to bully other countries
[QUOTE=Saxon;50662652]I mean his opinion doesn't really carry that much weight because hes an ex-pro SC player but I think hes right on a few points. Mostly that the republican party needs to grow up and Hilarys total lack of a spine.[/QUOTE] Oh I know in terms of political opinions, the one of an SC pro doesn't matter. I posted it because I thought he did have a lot of good points though about the GOP and the election that I thought could be discussed, that's why I outlined them withe timestamps. I think a lot of posts have happened without watching the video though, sadly.
He's fucking right, Trump cannot win with what he's doing now, and there is no sign of changing, the GOP should have been punishing him, instead it's "he's new, give him a chance". This is the first time the GOP is hemorrhaging the collage educated white, not all of them are Going to Hillary, but enough are.
[QUOTE=Blazedol;50663126]you believe wrong, friendo. sure, trump may be able to rake in money for his business, but the united states government isn't a business and [I]sure as shit shouldn't be treated like one.[/I][/QUOTE] And who's saying trump will treat the US Government as a business? If he's a CEO of a business that large, he has to have some damn good knowledge on strategy, negotiation, debate, publicity, and a load of other skills on the tip or my tongue (unless trump has people to do this all for him and he's just the guy who comes in once every 2 weeks to pick up his check, than this post is false), but most importantly, he has to be flexible, he needs to adapt to new laws, new situations, and possibly adapt his entire company based around it. I think there are a lot of skills from business that can be adapted to fit a mainly political field. I'm also sure trump has thought about this a hell of a lot more than all of us have, as iirc there's interviews with trump from the '90s with him expressing his interest in becoming president.
[QUOTE=Monkah;50662732]Yeah yeah, we've already heard the "lol there's no way he's spending enough to win an election" [img]http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-MG844_SpendS_G_20160125195212.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Holy shit Jeb, wha happen?
[QUOTE=Alxnotorious;50664613]Holy shit Jeb, wha happen?[/QUOTE] He attempted to get in on his Brother's fame. It didn't work.
[QUOTE=Saxon;50662652][B]I mean his opinion doesn't really carry that much weight because hes an ex-pro SC player but I think hes right on a few points. [/B] Mostly that the republican party needs to grow up and Hilarys total lack of a spine.[/QUOTE] What...? Being an Ex-pro player of anything doesn't disqualify your opinion. Am I misreading what you're saying here or something? :v:
[QUOTE=Paige;50664833]What...? Being an Ex-pro player of anything doesn't disqualify your opinion. Am I misreading what you're saying here or something? :v:[/QUOTE] He just meant that being an ex-pro SC player doesn't lend any extra validity to your claim beyond that of any other regular schmoe.
[QUOTE=Atlascore;50664397]Except it is the end this time. He's crashing in the polls, his campaign is bankrupt in comparison to Hillary's, and the tactics he used in the Primaries aren't going to work in the general election because he needs a hell of a lot more than the poor uneducated white male vote to win.[/QUOTE] That's not much of an argument against Trump. Trump has silent voters. Voters who aren't with him because he's a republican, but because they're all tired of modern politics not really taking care of issues like the should. They're tired of having their concerns shut down from others calling them "stupid racist bigots". Hell the Democrats lost alot of gays on the day of the Orlando Shootings, because they would rather save face and absolve Islamist of what happened to instead just blame gun laws as usual. They don't want Republicans to win, they want a non-corrupted man with the guts to stand up to all of this bullshit and corruption and shout enough is enough. You think Trump's supporters are few? Well just wait for election day and you'll see the silent majority rise up, quietly voting because they couldn't support in public due to fear of being beaten and harassed for who they want to vote for. Heck the FBI handed the election to Trump on a silver platter. Anyone with a track record like the Clintons would have been utterly ruined forever by such investigations, yet Hiliary just so happens to walk away scot free with barely a slap on the hand. You really think people are going to want to support such a crooked, disgusting administration to lead this country simply because "Trump is a big meanie racist pants and we don't want him."
[QUOTE=Toro;50664107]And who's saying trump will treat the US Government as a business? If he's a CEO of a business that large, he has to have some damn good knowledge on strategy, negotiation, debate, publicity, and a load of other skills on the tip or my tongue (unless trump has people to do this all for him and he's just the guy who comes in once every 2 weeks to pick up his check, than this post is false), but most importantly, he has to be flexible, he needs to adapt to new laws, new situations, and possibly adapt his entire company based around it. I think there are a lot of skills from business that can be adapted to fit a mainly political field. I'm also sure trump has thought about this a hell of a lot more than all of us have, as iirc there's interviews with trump from the '90s with him expressing his interest in becoming president.[/QUOTE] sure, but the fact that trump has no experience as a politician prior to this election is pretty fucking discouraging. he may have an interest and studied up on politics, but that's not quite how it works and most people know that, which is why every president ever at least had a small role in the government before becoming president, even the shitty ones. Trump has nothing, he'll either treat the government like something it's not, or just not know how to treat it period.
Without the women's vote and minority vote, two places he performs absolutely abysmally in, he's done. Yeah yeah you can keep bringing up that onion picture all you like, doesn't change the fact that winning the GOP nomination and winning a general election are completely different things. He's also doing shit campaign fund wise and his own party can barely stomach the man.
[QUOTE=Toro;50664107]And who's saying trump will treat the US Government as a business? If he's a CEO of a business that large, he has to have some damn good knowledge on strategy, negotiation, debate, publicity, and a load of other skills on the tip or my tongue (unless trump has people to do this all for him and he's just the guy who comes in once every 2 weeks to pick up his check, than this post is false), but most importantly, he has to be flexible, he needs to adapt to new laws, new situations, and possibly adapt his entire company based around it. I think there are a lot of skills from business that can be adapted to fit a mainly political field. I'm also sure trump has thought about this a hell of a lot more than all of us have, as iirc there's interviews with trump from the '90s with him expressing his interest in becoming president.[/QUOTE] Considering how many enterprises he's run directly into the ground I'm not entirely sure why you want to bet on those skills.
[QUOTE=Paige;50664833]What...? Being an Ex-pro player of anything doesn't disqualify your opinion. Am I misreading what you're saying here or something? :v:[/QUOTE] Nah I think Destiny is a really smart dude. I was just laying a quick outline of who he was before posting. [editline]7th July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;50665274]That's not much of an argument against Trump. Trump has silent voters. Voters who aren't with him because he's a republican, but because they're all tired of modern politics not really taking care of issues like the should. They're tired of having their concerns shut down from others calling them "stupid racist bigots". Hell the Democrats lost alot of gays on the day of the Orlando Shootings, because they would rather save face and absolve Islamist of what happened to instead just blame gun laws as usual. They don't want Republicans to win, they want a non-corrupted man with the guts to stand up to all of this bullshit and corruption and shout enough is enough. You think Trump's supporters are few? Well just wait for election day and you'll see the silent majority rise up, quietly voting because they couldn't support in public due to fear of being beaten and harassed for who they want to vote for. Heck the FBI handed the election to Trump on a silver platter. Anyone with a track record like the Clintons would have been utterly ruined forever by such investigations, yet Hiliary just so happens to walk away scot free with barely a slap on the hand. You really think people are going to want to support such a crooked, disgusting administration to lead this country simply because "Trump is a big meanie racist pants and we don't want him."[/QUOTE] Can you validate anything you said here at all
[QUOTE=KillRay;50666360]Nah I think Destiny is a really smart dude. I was just laying a quick outline of who he was before posting. [editline]7th July 2016[/editline] Can you validate anything you said here at all[/QUOTE] FiveThirtyEight said the Opposite was true, there is no "hidden Trump voters"
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