13 y/o boy survive's on oil after being abandoned by parents
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[QUOTE]A 13-year-old boy was found living alone in a vacant home with no running water or central heat for a month, homeschooling himself...
Meanwhile the child’s parents were living in a nearby hotel, visiting the boy occasionally and scrawling chores on a dry-erase board in the Far East Dallas house.For food, he had a few packages of cereal, cookies, spaghetti and cooking oil.
The boy also told police that he was frightened to live there because people had climbed into the home through a broken window in the past.
According to the arrest warrant, [B]Alcox and his wife had taken the boy out of school and “therefore he home-schools himself.”[/B]
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I am alarmed that to simply have a child go undetected by the state, you simply have to enroll a child as home schooled. This isn't the only case of child endangerment that is theoretically undetectable unless discovered by another person.
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I have never really understood the homeschooled concept. Can the parents do it even if they don't have schooling titles or how does it work?
Home schooled? I believe the term you are looking for is auto-didactic. You horrible people.
I don't want to jump to conclusions and say anything like 'ban homeschooling'. I'm legitimately interested in having someone here explain in a relatable way, how some people benefit from home schooling.
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[QUOTE=Zenreon117;46550737]Home schooled? I believe the term you are looking for is auto-didactic. You horrible people.[/QUOTE]
I know you want to make a criticism of them, but auto-didactic is hardly an insult.
What, you don't have to be qualified to homeschool?
[QUOTE=leontodd;46550756]What, you don't have to be qualified to homeschool?[/QUOTE] nope. most school stuff is pretty easy anyway.
I was for the "reception phase" of primary school, mostly because my mum wanted to get me into a particular school which I eventually did at the end of the school year. It's not a great idea, but least I had a mum that taught me well :v:
[QUOTE=bitches;46550738]I don't want to jump to conclusions and say anything like 'ban homeschooling'. I'm legitimately interested in having someone here explain in a relatable way, how some people benefit from home schooling.
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I know you want to make a criticism of them, but auto-didactic is hardly an insult.[/QUOTE]
I think it largely depends on the individual. You can come out of it a fucking genius since you basically have no distractions whatsoever. On the other hand you miss so many social skills.
I was home-schooled by my mother (who was/is a teacher) for a couple of months because I was a bit of a problem kid at school. I'd finish all my work before the other kids and then just fuck around so I'd get in trouble.
I'm all for homeschooling if you have an actual social disability, but if you don't then it can really hurt you in the future.
Home school is essentially online schooling. It's what most people mean when they refer to home schooling.
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at least now a days. 10 years ago it wouldn't be the case, however.
This title...
Homeschooling is really beneficial to people with issues since you don't have the rest of the class to worry about, or learn using methods that public schools don't teach. And frankly, at least a lot of American Public schools, don't teach stuff like cursive anymore, which can really hinder people since you can't read documents like the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence.
I did a year in FLVS. Virtual school and home schooling are not the same at all. There are parents who are crazy when it comes to public schools. They think their children are being indoctrinated, so they pull them out and homeschool them with a curriculum from religious academies. Those kids tend to end up strange, and socially detached. But not always. There are also the people who use the homeschool system in the manner exercised by the two fine individuals in the OP. So that their child is just not doing school at all. FLVS, and I'd imagine other virtual schools, are just like normal public schooling, but you do the lessons on your own time in a powerpoint kind of way instead of having to sit in a class with a bunch of people who don't give a fuck and are disruptive.
[QUOTE=Complifused;46550834]This title...[/QUOTE]
Sensationalist headlines, I like to stretch
[QUOTE=bitches;46550738]I don't want to jump to conclusions and say anything like 'ban homeschooling'. I'm legitimately interested in having someone here explain in a relatable way, how some people benefit from home schooling.
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I know you want to make a criticism of them, but auto-didactic is hardly an insult.[/QUOTE]
I was homeschooled for about two years during elementary/middle school. I was bullied to the point of moderate depression, spent most of my days in the office, and was told by the administrator that I'd be in "alternative school" in a year if I remained there. Before that year, I had never had a single issue with a teacher, but this one was tenured and hated her job, and took that out on the students. Still does, from what I've heard, so I was far from the only case.
It's not that I was particularly disruptive. I rarely spoke out in class, got good grades, etc. I was just a really easy target for the other students. I also usually finished my work early, and got sent to the hallway or office for pulling out a book or something while the rest of the class was working on their assignments.
Anyway, my parents got upset with the teacher and the administration, and took me out for two years or so. From year 5 to year 7. We used a comprehensive package, which included all of the books, coursework, assignments, etc. Outside of waking up a little later, nothing else really changed. I still had work, it still had to be done, I still had the standardized tests at the school that ran the package. Pretty standard school stuff.
It did give me a few years to adjust emotionally, though, and to avoid a lot of the early pressures of middle school in one of the worst districts in the state where shootings, stabbings, and drug busts were a pretty regular occurrence from 6th grade on.
Since you have to actually have a teaching degree to home-school past 7th grade, my parents enrolled me in a small private school where I did really well, never had an issue with the teachers or other students outside of the normal high school stuff, and just generally breezed through it. Now I'm going to Tennessee's biggest state-run university (University of Tennessee, Knoxville) entirely on merit-based scholarships, I write for a nationally-syndicated online food magazine, and I've still got a pretty decent group of friends, so I'd say I turned out pretty well.
Then again, I also became a socially inept computer geek who spends most of his time here, so I guess I'm not that well adjusted. There are definitely tradeoffs and side-effects from homeschooling, and that sort of deep-rooted introversion during the formative years is one of them.
[QUOTE=endorphinsam;46550794]Home school is essentially online schooling. It's what most people mean when they refer to home schooling.
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at least now a days. 10 years ago it wouldn't be the case, however.[/QUOTE]
There is both, personally in the age of computers and virtual class software I think homeschooling should be banned, only virtual schooling should be allowed, I mean I've done several classes in college that are either straight up online or mostly online and you can learn a lot from those. I took physics from a home school course because my school had an asinine moron for a physics professor who was out on sick leave with no lesson plans most of the timrand its really hurt me in college having never had a solid foundation in physics but one that I had to learn myself
I was home-schooled through middle-school and high-school. My local school system was garbage, and both my sisters went through it and came out unprepared for everything, although they had great grades and were honors students. My mother took on the task, and really enjoyed it. I had a great time, learned more than my peers by leaps and bounds and was allowed to have experiences others couldn't, like trips from coast to coast. She created a curriculum, had it certified by the state, we technically ran a private school. I've done fantastically in University since, and I am graduating with my BFA with a 9.6GPA. My mother went on to school for a second degree in Nursing, and since has gotten her Masters and Doctorate and is now co-directing an entire nursing department a university.
Most home-schooled kids are weird, because either they cant cope with public school, or their parents cant, or they just need more god in their classroom. Regardless, I was a small, small minority that was home-schooled for educational quality, rather than some other motive.
I, personally, never see anything good coming out of being home-schooled. Socialising with friends throughout your school / college life plays a big role in your confidence and such when you grow older.
[QUOTE=Hazardous Melon;46550952]I, personally, never see anything good coming out of being home-schooled. Socialising with friends throughout your school / college life plays a big role in your confidence and such when you grow older.[/QUOTE]
Absolutely. When I went back, I was ready to go back. I still keep in touch with some people from that little private school, I really think that whole experience helped me to reacquaint myself with that sort of lifestyle. I don't think it's all bad, of course, given what my alternatives were, but I don't think I would have done it the same way if I were given the option.
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[QUOTE=Ajacks;46550941]I was home-schooled through middle-school and high-school. My local school system was garbage, and both my sisters went through it and came out unprepared for everything, although they had great grades and were honors students. My mother took on the task, and really enjoyed it. I had a great time, learned more than my peers by leaps and bounds and was allowed to have experiences others couldn't, like trips from coast to coast. She created a curriculum, had it certified by the state, we technically ran a private school. I've done fantastically in University since, and I am graduating with my BFA with a 9.6GPA. My mother went on to school for a second degree in Nursing, and since has gotten her Masters and Doctorate and is now co-directing an entire nursing department a university.
Most home-schooled kids are weird, because either they cant cope with public school, or their parents cant, or they just need more god in their classroom. Regardless, I was a small, small minority that was home-schooled for educational quality, rather than some other motive.[/QUOTE]
Roughly the same.
I wasn't homeschooled because of me, but because the schools in the area had amazingly shit administration and ridiculous rules. She setup work and curriculum and reports to the state about how I do. I was homeschooled from 2nd grade through graduation. And I'll be graduating with my BA in the spring.
[QUOTE=Axsisel;46550731]I have never really understood the homeschooled concept. Can the parents do it even if they don't have schooling titles or how does it work?[/QUOTE]
For home schooling in Texas, at least one of the parents needs to get a teaching certificate from the state and they have to follow set guidelines as to what subject matter they teach.
[QUOTE=Ajacks;46550941]I was home-schooled through middle-school and high-school. My local school system was garbage, and both my sisters went through it and came out unprepared for everything, although they had great grades and were honors students. My mother took on the task, and really enjoyed it. I had a great time, learned more than my peers by leaps and bounds and was allowed to have experiences others couldn't, like trips from coast to coast. She created a curriculum, had it certified by the state, we technically ran a private school. I've done fantastically in University since, and I am graduating with my BFA with a 9.6GPA. My mother went on to school for a second degree in Nursing, and since has gotten her Masters and Doctorate and is now co-directing an entire nursing department a university.
Most home-schooled kids are weird, because either they cant cope with public school, or their parents cant, or they just need more god in their classroom. Regardless, I was a small, small minority that was home-schooled for educational quality, rather than some other motive.[/QUOTE]
This was essentially the case for my family's schooling as well. My sibs and I are still pretty young, but we're all in university now, and doing pretty well.
A lot of people look at homeschoolers like "wow what a bunch of shut-ins, how do they socialize?" but it's not exactly hard to hang out with people after class is finished. Besides, while everybody else was shut into a single building for six hours a day, I got to romp around and learn things in the real world.
Granted, like Ajacks, I was a pretty lucky kid. And my sister eventually went back to high school because that's just what worked for her. It's a freedom thing.
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Regardless, that's a pretty shit situation for the kid in the article to be in. It's hardly homeschooling as much as abandonment. Good on him for trying to continue his education, though.
[QUOTE=Stiffy360;46550838]Homeschooling is really beneficial to people with issues since you don't have the rest of the class to worry about, or learn using methods that public schools don't teach. And frankly, at least a lot of American Public schools, don't teach stuff like cursive anymore, which can really hinder people since you can't read documents like the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence.[/QUOTE]
When would you ever need to read either of those, they've been transcribed to print even. Cursive is dying out because its not needed.
From this title I thought the kid was surviving on motor oil.
[QUOTE=bitches;46550738]I don't want to jump to conclusions and say anything like 'ban homeschooling'. I'm legitimately interested in having someone here explain in a relatable way, how some people benefit from home schooling.
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I know you want to make a criticism of them, but auto-didactic is hardly an insult.[/QUOTE]
I was homeschooled through elementary. Basically in my case it was a better education similar to a private school without the price of a private school. Then private school in middle school and now public highschool is pretty easy.
Dont let these guys skew your view
[QUOTE=Stiffy360;46550838]Homeschooling is really beneficial to people with issues since you don't have the rest of the class to worry about, or learn using methods that public schools don't teach. And frankly, at least a lot of American Public schools, don't teach stuff like cursive anymore, which can really hinder people since you can't read documents like the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence.[/QUOTE]
what a useless skill to have
[QUOTE=Stiffy360;46550838]Homeschooling is really beneficial to people with issues since you don't have the rest of the class to worry about, or learn using methods that public schools don't teach. And frankly, at least a lot of American Public schools, don't teach stuff like cursive anymore, which can really hinder people since you can't read documents like the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence.[/QUOTE]
By freedom and the library, this man is a true-spirited American hero.
[QUOTE=Stiffy360;46550838]Homeschooling is really beneficial to people with issues since you don't have the rest of the class to worry about, or learn using methods that public schools don't teach. And frankly, at least a lot of American Public schools, don't teach stuff like cursive anymore, which can really hinder people since you can't read documents like the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence.[/QUOTE]
you don't have to be taught cursive to be able to read it roflmao.
I think the basic concept of home school is this: The parents have the right to educate their children. All the state can do is mandate the requirements. The state's interest is in having children receive a certain level of education. Social skills are not part of this mandate.
As a practical matter public school works for most people since it gets the job done AND babysits the kids for the parent= win/win. Parents and/or legal guardians may have reasons for preferring home schooling instead. Your education is what you make of it in the end. All the social skills in the world won't pay your bills. On the other hand, people skills can help you advance in life if you use them well.
[quote]Gonzales also she could not comment as to whether CPS has had any history with the family.[/quote]
Why do I have a feeling this is code for "concerns were raised on multiple occasions but since we're CPS we did jack shit about it"?
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