Might be NSFW in some parts. I shed manly tears.
[video=youtube;kz9o9wpn6fw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz9o9wpn6fw[/video]
That is so sad, the horrors of war are never truly seen by the masses
[QUOTE=yuper11;42195466]That is so sad, the horrors of war are never truly seen by the masses[/QUOTE]
The ending especially got me in the heart.
Why is there footage from (what I'm assuming is) a strip club?
[QUOTE=Krinkels;42195998]Why is there footage from (what I'm assuming is) a strip club?[/QUOTE]
Not too hard to understand why.
The end part with the solider with no legs on his makeshift wheelchair really got to me.
Good god, the bodies look like manikins.
[QUOTE=yuper11;42195466]That is so sad, the horrors of war are never truly seen by the masses[/QUOTE]
Well it's really hard to get the feeling of people actively trying to kill you without actually being there.
[QUOTE=Krinkels;42195998]Why is there footage from (what I'm assuming is) a strip club?[/QUOTE]
It's showing how well the Russian civilians were doing compared to the major civilian casualties in Chechnya.
Chechnya was a fucking mess, and imo one of, if not the dirtiest war since WW2
[editline]15th September 2013[/editline]
atleast the dirtiest 'major' or well known war
[editline]15th September 2013[/editline]
also
[quote=guy in the comments]0:00 to 1:05 dialog
>Chechen: Alik, maybe while it's not too late, tell your guys to retreat. Don't do this, don't do this. In any case, Alik, you and I will• die. What's the point of all this? Who will win this? You and I will not win this, understand? If we or I see you in the action, I won't show you mercy, just like you won't, understand? It's better if you come to me as a guest. Retreat your guys. Have pity for their mothers, have pity for your guys, retreat them. Give the order.
>Russian: I'm not that big of a boss to give such an order.
>Chechen: Alik, from my heart, I wish that you survive this, but you• better leave.
>Russian: I don't have this choice. I have orders and I will obey them in any case.[/quote]
seems fairly accurate to me
[QUOTE=Macneil_bmx;42199842]It's showing how well the Russian civilians were doing compared to the major civilian casualties in Chechnya.[/QUOTE]
No, it is there to show just how much people cared about those who were dying in a war so close to them.
Talking about civilian casualties, yeah, ethnically Russian population was doing very well. By the time of the war, no ethnically Russian left alive in Chechnya, either raped and killed or fled.
[QUOTE=Araknid;42199984]Chechnya was a fucking mess, and imo one of, if not the dirtiest war since WW2
[editline]15th September 2013[/editline]
atleast the dirtiest 'major' or well known war
[editline]15th September 2013[/editline]
also
seems fairly accurate to me[/QUOTE]
Was that during the first battle in Grozny where they got surrounded at the trainstation?
I read a whole lot about the Chechen war, reports from officers.. interviews with soldiers both Russian and Chechen.
Horrible horrible stuff, Chechnya was hell.
Have a mini-doc filmed from the Russian point of view.
[video=youtube;ntXbSrH0egc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntXbSrH0egc[/video]
German narated but there are good subtitles available!
The song is [I]From Roots To Needles[/I] by If These Trees Could Talk.
I thought my Spotify was playing when I heard it.
[QUOTE=arthuro12;42201215]Was that during the first battle in Grozny where they got surrounded at the trainstation?
I read a whole lot about the Chechen war, reports from officers.. interviews with soldiers both Russian and Chechen.
Horrible horrible stuff, Chechnya was hell.
Have a mini-doc filmed from the Russian point of view.
[video=youtube;ntXbSrH0egc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntXbSrH0egc[/video]
German narated but there are good subtitles available![/QUOTE]
Depressing waste of lives. Why is war so glorified I don't know.
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