Empowered Womyn checks the privilege of a White male - General

[video=youtube;SIZTKcVKTYs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIZTKcVKTYs[/video] Don't sit down folks, you'll just stand up again. My blood is literally boiling right now.

Look at all that equal rights and social treatment she was peacefully requesting

Stupid cunt.

before anyone says anything, please consider the fact that most feminists aren't batshit bonkers like this lady is thank you [editline]8th August 2013[/editline] wow the comments on that video are fucking terrible, too

She... touched... him? am I seeing this right? Actually fucking angry. I'm not active in the whole gender shit going on but seeing shit like this is rage inducing to no end.

[QUOTE=Glitchman;41763644]I'm not active in the whole gender shit going on but seeing shit like this is rage inducing to no end.[/QUOTE] Same here, I can't understand why it is people like her are still associated with feminism. You would have thought the community would condemn such people for giving them such a bad name. The only thing I can liken it to is the US in it's fight to win the hearts and minds of the Afghans/Iraqis. For each negative incident that occurs you create hundreds more enemies.

[QUOTE=ScratchNsniff;41763909][B]Same here, I can't understand why it is people like her are still associated with feminism[/B]. You would have thought the community would condemn such people for giving them such a bad name. The only thing I can liken it to is the US in it's fight to win the hearts and minds of the Afghans/Iraqis. For each negative incident that occurs you create hundreds more enemies.[/QUOTE] because people like you create threads like this with really dumb titles for the sole purpose of creating shitstorms

Why wasn't she handcuffed? There was a ledge there, and a drop, she pushed someone off a ledge. They could have died. Attempted murder?

[QUOTE=ScratchNsniff;41763909]Same here, I can't understand why it is people like her are still associated with feminism. You would have thought the community would condemn such people for giving them such a bad name. The only thing I can liken it to is the US in it's fight to win the hearts and minds of the Afghans/Iraqis. For each negative incident that occurs you create hundreds more enemies.[/QUOTE] lol feminism isn't an organization. feminism isn't a community. feminism is just a term for anyone who believes in gender equality. it isn't like each self-professed feminist has a list of every other feminist in the world and attends meetings where they vet new feminists.

why did they applaud her?

[QUOTE=yawmwen;41763991]lol feminism isn't an organization. feminism isn't a community. feminism is just a term for anyone who believes in gender equality. it isn't like each self-professed feminist has a list of every other feminist in the world and attends meetings where they vet new feminists.[/QUOTE] If feminists are people who want gender equality and then someone who calls themselves a feminist does something stupid (like assaults white men in the name of equality or says that all men should be castrated or something), I don't see why the rest of the movement can't condemn such behavior. I don't understand why you can't go "this and that is not feminism, please don't associate this stupid shit with the actual feminism" (individually, not by a leader or something) but instead you get protective of all that stupid bullshit because the person doing it calls themselves a feminist. It's like the moment you call yourself a feminist you have to blindly defend everyone who calls themselves (or is being called) a feminist and you have to attack everyone who criticizes such person. [editline]8th August 2013[/editline] And on topic of the video. Whatever that girl did or what she thinks she's doing. That's not feminism. That's a delusional person.

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;41764230]If feminists are people who want gender equality and then someone who calls themselves a feminist does something stupid (like assaults white men in the name of equality or says that all men should be castrated or something), I don't see why the rest of the movement can't condemn such behavior. [/quote] i cant speak for the actions or intentions of every person who calls themselves a feminist and frankly you're an idiot if you think i can. [quote]I don't understand why you can't go "this and that is not feminism, please don't associate this stupid shit with the actual feminism" (individually, not by a leader or something) but instead you get protective of all that stupid bullshit because the person doing it calls themselves a feminist. It's like the moment you call yourself a feminist you have to blindly defend everyone who calls themselves (or is being called) a feminist and you have to attack everyone who criticizes such person.[/QUOTE] i'm not so fucking insecure about feminism's "reputation" or "credibility" that i need to constantly denounce every idiot who says they are a feminist. i'd rather concern myself with real problems...ya know...like the patriarchy. if someone really thinks this woman represents feminism as a whole(or that any individual does, for that matter), they should probably just go back to sniffing glue and posting on r/mensrights [editline]8th August 2013[/editline] and btw there are a ton of feminists who actually spend a great deal of their time denouncing other feminists.

dumb idiot feels someones arm brush against her breast so she shoves him off a 2ft drop fucking feminist cunt why do feminists refuse to address these types of issues?

[QUOTE=yawmwen;41764416]i cant speak for the actions or intentions of every person who calls themselves a feminist and frankly you're an idiot if you think i can. [/QUOTE] If you think it's somehow impossible to say that a person who says they are a part of a movement isn't actually following the movement ideals then I'm sorry but you're the idiot. For instance if someone would call themselves a feminist and they would say shit like "all women should be taking care of children and the household and they shouldn't have a job" it would be impossible for you to say that what they are saying is not really feminism? Your blanket statements make absolutely no sense. [QUOTE=yawmwen;41764416]i'm not so fucking insecure about feminism's "reputation" or "credibility" that i need to constantly denounce every idiot who says they are a feminist. i'd rather concern myself with real problems...ya know...like the patriarchy. if someone really thinks this woman represents feminism as a whole(or that any individual does, for that matter), they should probably just go back to sniffing glue and posting on r/mensrights[/QUOTE] So you're angry that people associate this kind of bullshit with feminism but you're not gonna try to correct them and make them understand? And you're not gonna refute people who want to give feminism a bad name by showing things that aren't really feminism but calling them that? [editline]9th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=yawmwen;41764416]and btw there are a ton of feminists who actually spend a great deal of their time denouncing other feminists.[/QUOTE] I've yet to see one. All I've seen so far on this board is blindly defending everything that's being called feminist and attacking everyone who has anything negative to say about it.

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;41764546]If think it's somehow impossible to say that a person who says they are a part of a movement isn't actually following the movement ideals then I'm sorry but you're the idiot. For instance if someone would call themselves a feminist and they would say shit like "all women should be taking care of children and the household and they shouldn't have a job" it would be impossible for you to say that what they are saying is not really feminism? Your blanket statements make absolutely no sense.[/quote] it's not impossible, just a waste of time to try and go around denouncing every single person who wrongly applies the term feminist. [quote]So you're angry that people associate this kind of bullshit with feminism but you're not gonna try to correct them and make them understand?[/QUOTE] i'm too cynical to be angry. idc if people associate this with feminism, i'm way more annoyed with people like you who think it's every egalitarian's responsibility to seek out and denounce every single weirdo who associates with the movement. [editline]8th August 2013[/editline] feminism will survive the crazies in the movement and people looking down on the movement just as it has for centuries. what it won't survive is a constant witch hunt.

"she is radical in what she does, not what she preaches" no, fuck off, denounce that cunt and be done with it.

[QUOTE=Thaard;41764030]why did they applaud her?[/QUOTE] I think they applauded the cop who took her in

the witch hunts and constant infighting is what tears apart leftism and radical movements as a whole.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;41764593]it's not impossible, just a waste of time to try and go around denouncing every single person who wrongly applies the term feminist. i'm too cynical to be angry. idc if people associate this with feminism, i'm way more annoyed with people like you who think it's every egalitarian's responsibility to seek out and denounce every single weirdo who associates with the movement.[/QUOTE] You don't care when people manipulate others to think feminism is bad and you think it's a waste of time to fight it. Gotcha.

Does this thread have any other purpose other than serving as a platform for ignorant kids to generalize on feminism? I'm actually pretty god damn offended not only by the person in this video but also by you idiots shitting on something I believe in just because some random wacko decided to use it as an excuse to act like an asshole. Stop treating feminism like it's some kind of hive mind or even an organization when it's just a (really broad) philosophy. Change a few words in this statement and realize how much of a petty, silly goose you're being: "If [nihilists] are people who [don't give a shit] and then someone who calls themselves a [nihilist] does something stupid (like [giving a shit]), I don't see why the rest of the movement can't condemn such behavior." This would make sense if feminism was a unified ideology or a tangible group, but it isn't. The only requirement you have to meet to call yourself a feminist is to promote equality between the sexes, that's literally it. From there it's all up to each individual feminist. Groups do exist but they're all just groups of like-minded feminists and are still in no way representative of feminism as a whole. You can simplify this all you want if it makes you feel better about yourself but it won't change a damn thing. [editline]hjfadspk[/editline] Furthermore, people like this woman are not deserving of any attention whatsoever. If you want to go and take this one person as an example of what feminism stands for then it's your own stupid choice. [editline]mad[/editline] i am legit frustrated by the willful ignorance and pettiness in this thread

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;41764651]You don't care when people manipulate others to think feminism is bad and you think it's a waste of time to fight it. Gotcha.[/QUOTE] people have always thought feminism is bad. i don't care. the goal of radical feminism is not to make everyone like radical feminism, it is to dismantle sexist structures through radical action. [editline]8th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Dr. Gestapo;41764671] If [nihilists] are people who [don't give a shit] and then someone who calls themselves a [nihilist] does something stupid (like [giving a shit]), I don't see why the rest of the movement can't condemn such behavior." [/QUOTE] i don't think nihilists give enough of a shit to condemn the people who give a shit =P

Good that the police was taking her away afterwards. By the looks of it there's certainly grounds for assault, bodily harm and potentially even battery. And depending on what she says in court false testimony as well. Good thing it's on tape as well. People like this should be thought that violence is really not the right platform to use. And it would be best for whatever feminist organisation is on said campus to oust her out.

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;41764230]If feminists are people who want gender equality and then someone who calls themselves a feminist does something stupid (like assaults white men in the name of equality or says that all men should be castrated or something), I don't see why the rest of the movement can't condemn such behavior. [/QUOTE] I think you'll find that they do. Ultimately feminism isn't a single monolithic entity though so it's very easy for people to pick videos like these to confirm their biases.

[QUOTE=Dr. Gestapo;41764671]Does this thread have any other purpose other than serving as a platform for ignorant kids to generalize on feminism? I'm actually pretty god damn offended not only by the person in this video but also by you idiots shitting on something I believe in just because some random wacko to use it as an excuse to act like an asshole. Stop treating feminism like it's some kind of hive mind or even an organization when it's just a (really broad) philosophy. Change a few words in this statement and realize how much of a petty, silly goose you're being: "If [nihilists] are people who [don't give a shit] and then someone who calls themselves a [nihilist] does something stupid (like [giving a shit]), I don't see why the rest of the movement can't condemn such behavior."[/QUOTE] How so? "If [capitalists] are people who [believe in free market] and then someone who calls themselves a [capitalist] does something stupid (like [advocating controlling the market]), I don't see why the rest of the movement can't condemn such behavior." "If [religious people] are people who [believe in a god] and then someone who calls themselves a [religious person] does something stupid (like [saying there is no god]), I don't see why the rest of the movement can't condemn such behavior." "If [environmentalists] are people who [want to save the environment] and then someone who calls themselves an [environmentalist] does something stupid (like [burning trash]), I don't see why the rest of the movement can't condemn such behavior." I can go on all day. Why is it a bad thing if you would say "that's not what feminism, nihilism or whatever the fuck you want is about, please don't associate this shit with it"? [QUOTE=Dr. Gestapo;41764671]This would make sense if feminism was a unified ideology or a tangible group, but it isn't. The only requirement you have to meet to call yourself a feminist is to promote equality between the sexes, that's literally it. From there it's all up to each individual feminist. Groups do exist but they're all just groups of like-minded feminists and are still in no way representative of feminism as a whole.[/QUOTE] I don't see how claiming sexual assault and then assaulting a guy is promoting equality between sexes. By your definition it's not feminism, so I don't see why you can't say "that's now what feminism is". People are trying to manipulate others into associating feminism with bad things. Why is it a bad thing to fight against it?

[QUOTE=ScratchNsniff;41763909]You would have thought the community would condemn such people for giving them such a bad name. [/QUOTE] what community do you even know what the hell you are talking about

Nothing about this video suggests that the woman is a feminist though? In fact if [url=http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1jx3gv/feminist_makes_false_sexual_assault_allegation/]r/mensrights[/url] of all fucking places should be trusted this video is ancient and the woman is in fact not a feminist? Misleading OP? Shit thread?

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;41764865]How so? "If [capitalists] are people who [believe in free market] and then someone who calls themselves a [capitalist] does something stupid (like [advocating controlling the market]), I don't see why the rest of the movement can't condemn such behavior."[/QUOTE] my head is spinning

[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;41764761]I think you'll find that they do. Ultimately feminism isn't a single monolithic entity though so it's very easy for people to pick videos like these to confirm their biases.[/QUOTE] Yes, but then we are in this thread when someone is trying to link false claims of sexual assault and assaulting a guy with feminism and you guys are saying it's wrong to refute it. Why aren't you against belittling what feminism is?

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;41764865]People are trying to manipulate others into associating feminism with bad things. Why is it a bad thing to fight against it?[/QUOTE] I don't think he's saying it's a bad thing to fight against it. On the other hand, overexposure of a (very small) bad minority is not the fault of the minority but those over-exposing them. It's not the responsibility of those sensible to separate themselves from extremists, that's your responsibility. You should be smart enough to figure that on your own, that this bad minority =/= rest of the movement, and this kind of threads just seems to be all about drawing a false equivalence between the two.

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;41764865]How so? "If [capitalists] are people who [believe in free market] and then someone who calls themselves a [capitalist] does something stupid (like [advocating controlling the market]), I don't see why the rest of the movement can't condemn such behavior." "If [religious people] are people who [believe in a god] and then someone who calls themselves a [religious person] does something stupid (like [saying there is no god]), I don't see why the rest of the movement can't condemn such behavior." "If [environmentalists] are people who [want to save the environment] and then someone who calls themselves an [environmentalist] does something stupid (like [burning trash]), I don't see why the rest of the movement can't condemn such behavior." I can go on all day. Why is it a bad thing if you would say "that's not what feminism, nihilism or whatever the fuck you want is about, please don't associate this shit with it"? I don't see how claiming sexual assault and then assaulting a guy is promoting equality between sexes. By your definition it's not feminism, so I don't see why you can't say "that's now what feminism is". People are trying to manipulate others into associating feminism with bad things. Why is it a bad thing to fight against it?[/QUOTE] It's ok for feminists to tell people that those idiots do not represent them. I support that. I just get really frustrated when people imply that other feminists can do anything about it. We can't. Anyone can call themselves anything because like I said before, there is no "feminist organization" or "feminist agenda" despite what people like to believe. I can (and I do) protest against idiots like this, but unfortunately I can't change a thing. The best we can do is ignore them. That's why I used that example. We can't stop every single individual nutter from doing whatever stupid shit they do in the name of feminism. Besides we have the OP here who is obviously trying to start an anti-feminist bandwagon and that just kind of ticked me off, for which I apologize.