• Why Vice is Absolute Garbage - FriendlyJordies
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[video=youtube;4jPDLi4xDpc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jPDLi4xDpc[/video]
Vice seems to be a mix between stuff that is fascinating like Hamilton's Pharmacopeia and then dumb shit like this.
God bless that Aussie, bringing the bants home.
Damn, this is savage
[QUOTE=Phycosymo;53125111]Vice seems to be a mix between stuff that is fascinating like Hamilton's Pharmacopeia and then dumb shit like this.[/QUOTE] Funnily enough, Vice was actually basically a scam(unsure if that's changed) for advertisers. Someone started to dig during the whole GG Fiasco and began to find financial statements and more that completely contradicted what they were telling investors; their clicks were far lower than their reports to advertisers and more.
Wow, I find myself actually agreeing with a video FriendlyJordies put out for once.
vice is like the absolute worst and the best of journalism rolled into one. some of their shit is genuinely interesting but it seems as the bigger they get the more vapid and dumb their writing gets.
Their Syria and Ukraine stuff was top notch but other areas are ass blast garbage
[QUOTE=Vodkavia;53125152]Why does that guy who owns vice let it run shit that's contrary to his own views? You'd think if you were someone who didn't give a shit about their fellow human beings beyond exploitation, you'd tilt your popular media organization into a more lazy chair angle.[/QUOTE] FriendlyJordies has pointed out that often, these places will not talk about bigger issues such as worker exploitation and instead focus on whatever is trending on twitter or some big dramatic arguement going on over something far less important. Thats what Murdock and his coherts want, is not a left or right wing, but general ignorance that things could be better.
[QUOTE=SunsetTable;53125157]FriendlyJordies has pointed out that often, these places will not talk about bigger issues such as worker exploitation and instead focus on whatever is trending on twitter or some big dramatic arguement going on over something far less important. Thats what Murdock and his coherts want, is not a left or right wing, but general ignorance that things could be better.[/QUOTE] I.e. Murdoc would prefer the "activist generation" distracted by clickbait garbage instead of fixing real issues.
Shame because I work literally blocks from Vice's offices - I work in ice cream so I've actually scooped for them before inside their building. Vice has some genuinely nice and talented people employed.
Low effort hit pieces because someone has an opinion are like watching someone post an embarrassing shitpost where they contradict the other persons option and attack them personally They have literally no place in journalism I mean I have no idea what this stuffs all about, but this is yet another case of nitpicking lines, very clearly. Just look at how they treated Count Dankula. [QUOTE=Clovis;53125171]Vice literally turned from 'oh this article has something interesting in it' to buzzfeed within the last year or so[/QUOTE] It'd be like if I attacked Clovis above me because they had the opinion that Vice is the new buzzfeed by totally misrepresenting what they say and attacking them. Everyone would correctly laugh at me because its wrong and dumb. They've totally become buzzfeed. Or they're at least releasing some stuff that's pretty on par with them. What is happening with them.
Vice's online articles are trash. ViceLand is a quality TV channel to me personally because I love skateboarding and weed and they show interesting documentaries. Spike Jonze will forever be an inspiration to me for starting with Jackass and becoming an award winning director and writer.
I'd say they're equal parts great content and bad/filler/easy digestion content.
[QUOTE=Vodkavia;53125247] IMHO the majority of news outlets are going to devolve into buzzfeed if things don't change in a big way.[/QUOTE] Honestly, this is just a part of the internet now I guess. You merely say what you want and your opinions will be validated. And the more you search for it, the more websites will point you towards more of that. It doesn't matter how obscure, factual, psychotic, or racist you are, you can find someone that "confirms" everything you say, and you can find something that "confirms" the exact opposite and tells a radically different story. Echo-chambers are formed from this, and create their own confirmation bias within themselves, which stagnates what... well, reality itself is.
Keep in mind that Vice is a media conglomerate with a bunch of different departments and properties. You all probably know Vice for ViceNews, which does all the photojournalism and HBO stuff. [I]Vice[/I] is a magazine and has its roots in that, so they're more focused on stuff like mainstream culture. It's a shit article regardless but I usually put [I]Vice [/I]to lower standards than the journalism division.
[QUOTE=KingKombat;53125160]Shame because I work literally blocks from Vice's offices - I work in ice cream so I've actually scooped for them before inside their building. Vice has some genuinely nice and talented people employed.[/QUOTE] It has nothing to do with their people - it has to do with their journalistic practices. Keep up those scoops man, they aren't bad people.
I don't like vice but they write on stuff I don't otherwise see so it's usually good when it comes onto fp.
does anyone remember when vice was just a free hipster titty mag with stories about how to juice your prostate and bad cocaine and maybe a couple album reviews
Friendly reminder that the moment Murdoch is 6 foot under should be a global holiday.
[QUOTE=Kommodore;53125331]does anyone remember when vice was just a free hipster titty mag with stories about how to juice your prostate and bad cocaine and maybe a couple album reviews[/QUOTE] you're assuming anyone on fp is born before 2000
[QUOTE=cdr248;53125347]you're assuming anyone on fp is born before 2000[/QUOTE] To be fair, all of us should have the left and moved on the day we turned 18 but here I am, 25, and talking about my aquarium and destructive goldfish
[QUOTE=cdr248;53125347]you're assuming anyone on fp is born before 2000[/QUOTE] Honestly I think if we took a forum census the average age would definitely be 18+. Excluding the Rust forum.
[QUOTE=Phycosymo;53125111]Vice seems to be a mix between stuff that is fascinating like Hamilton's Pharmacopeia and then dumb shit like this.[/QUOTE] Really liked this show Nothing else grabbed me
[QUOTE=Wealth + Taste;53125391]Honestly I think if we took a forum census the average age would definitely be 18+. Excluding the Rust forum.[/QUOTE] We've had this several times before. The average was beyond 18 then, and still is.
[QUOTE=Paul-Simon;53125616]We've had this several times before. The average was beyond 18 then, and still is.[/QUOTE] How could it not be? Everyone here like anywhere else on the net was born in 1905.
FriendlyJordies looks like the protagonist of Starship Troopers
[QUOTE=cdr248;53125347]you're assuming anyone on fp is born before 2000[/QUOTE] If only we had censuses as recent as last year which shown that more than 90% of the users who submitted it were in fact born before 2000. Oh wait, [URL="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/105RY6R2RFtqxkxqKOdKkaFBdQKPVkecsGByz6ZxozWk/viewanalytics"]we had[/URL].
Vice? You mean Weed Channel Inc?
[QUOTE=KaptonJack;53125786]FriendlyJordies looks like the protagonist of Starship Troopers[/QUOTE] I want to know more
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