• 4D soundsystem - the future of clubbing?
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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GUkdsM75kw[/media]
The entire time, he's going on about the sounds in 3D space using the rig. Why not just call it 3D Soundsystem... I imagined 4D to be something a little more different than just that, as cool as it is.
Really cool concept, but there's like, probably a total of three people on Facepunch who go clubbing. [editline]7th January 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Daemon White;43457430]The entire time, he's going on about the sounds in 3D space using the rig. Why not just call it 3D Soundsystem... I imagined 4D to be something a little more different than just that, as cool as it is.[/QUOTE] I think the 4D thing is just a gimmick name.
[QUOTE=Daemon White;43457430]The entire time, he's going on about the sounds in 3D space using the rig. Why not just call it 3D Soundsystem... I imagined 4D to be something a little more different than just that, as cool as it is.[/QUOTE] because 3d sound is when you record sound with 2 mics at the same distance as the human ears and play it back in stereo. remember the barber cutting your hair audio clip? I know it's been posted here. This is quite a bit more complex albeit not actally 4 dimensional.
[QUOTE=manvsbear;43457528]because 3d sound is when you record sound with 2 mics at the same distance as the human ears and play it back in stereo. remember the barber cutting your hair audio clip? I know it's been posted here. This is quite a bit more complex albeit not actally 4 dimensional.[/QUOTE] It's still stereo though... 2 Dimensional audio with a simulated 3D trick to it. If the guy wasn't talking about where he was standing, there wouldn't be any real difference to the audio if he was in front of or behind you because it's still 2 sound tracks played over 2 speakers. We percieve it as more 3D because of the proper fading between speakers from the binaural audio recording and as we have our eyes closed we envision the person talking to us in a 3D space giving that extra bit of realism to the audio we hear. So far, the only time we come close to 3D audio is the 5.1 or 7.1 sound systems that have speakers in front and behind you as long as you have the proper content format being played (Like in Theaters) [editline]more[/editline] Actually, 5.1 and 7.1 surround isn't even true 3D audio. Sure, it's more than the standard 2D (Left and Right channel), but it's not quite full 3D. On these systems, you have sound coming from the front, back, and sides of you. All on a flat, 2-Dimansional plane. There are no sounds coming from above or below you yet, just front, back, and sides.
I guess he talks about it a bit at the end but that seems like something completely for a media art gallery, I don't think people in a club are all that interested in where the music comes from.
[QUOTE=Daemon White;43457767]It's still stereo though... 2 Dimensional audio with a simulated 3D trick to it. If the guy wasn't talking about where he was standing, there wouldn't be any real difference to the audio if he was in front of or behind you because it's still 2 sound tracks played over 2 speakers. We percieve it as more 3D because of the proper fading between speakers from the binaural audio recording and as we have our eyes closed we envision the person talking to us in a 3D space giving that extra bit of realism to the audio we hear. So far, the only time we come close to 3D audio is the 5.1 or 7.1 sound systems that have speakers in front and behind you as long as you have the proper content format being played (Like in Theaters) [editline]more[/editline] Actually, 5.1 and 7.1 surround isn't even true 3D audio. Sure, it's more than the standard 2D (Left and Right channel), but it's not quite full 3D. On these systems, you have sound coming from the front, back, and sides of you. All on a flat, 2-Dimansional plane. There are no sounds coming from above or below you yet, just front, back, and sides.[/QUOTE] You have 2 ears, if you had speakers (headphones) on each ear, and you record with the same setup (2 microphones, each spaced properly, with a medium in between) you can replicate what you would hear near perfectly. This is generally referred to as 'Binaural recording' Put on headphones [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUDTlvagjJA[/media] [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u163wC6mP2A[/url] Just excuse the shitty acting.
[QUOTE=glitchvid;43458020]You have 2 ears, if you had speakers (headphones) on each ear, and you record with the same setup (2 microphones, each spaced properly, with a medium in between) you can replicate what you would hear near perfectly. This is generally referred to as 'Binaural recording'[/QUOTE] Yeah, I've seen that before, and it's very well done. And while it simulates the 3D space wonderfully, I'm referring more to the speakers positions themselves. We can simulate full 3D audio very well, but the speaker system being shown off is real 3D, not simulated 3D. Well, I guess I'm going through an awful lot of explaining for a nearly useless point. Basically, I think, is that the speakers showcased are in an XYZ (I use Y as up) plane compared to the LR of headphones or XZ plane like the 5.1/7.1 surround speakers. In a physical sense. Yeah... you can all probably ignore me now.
[QUOTE=glitchvid;43458020]You have 2 ears, if you had speakers (headphones) on each ear, and you record with the same setup (2 microphones, each spaced properly, with a medium in between) you can replicate what you would hear near perfectly. This is generally referred to as 'Binaural recording' Put on headphones [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUDTlvagjJA[/media] [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u163wC6mP2A[/url] Just excuse the shitty acting.[/QUOTE] Worth a check out: [url]https://soundcloud.com/groups/binaural-recording[/url]
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