• How American Televisions Were Made
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Not a single part of that TV it seems was made outside of the East Coast. :v: [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2si4pop4kDE[/media]
With that much thought and less advanced manufacturing I can see why TVs were so expensive back then and unfortunately for us Brits the cost of advancement hit home in the decade after this was made with 625 lines and then PAL colour being introduced and requiring a totally new set as a result.
it's so fascinating how quickly this economic ecosystem became irrelevant. All TVs probably come from one-and-done plants overseas now.
Man, I wish this was still common practice to do such rigorous QA and testing beyond normal expected wear. Speaking as an engineer, I want to build something that [U]lasts[/U]. But of course, that's drowned out by today's consumerism, throw-away culture.
[QUOTE=Genericenemy;50698436]With that much thought and less advanced manufacturing I can see why TVs were so expensive back then and unfortunately for us Brits the cost of advancement hit home in the decade after this was made with 625 lines and then PAL colour being introduced and requiring a totally new set as a result.[/QUOTE] What a mess that has created. So many problems would never exist if we both used 60Hz.
[QUOTE=Silikone;50699494]What a mess that has created. So many problems would never exist if we both used 60Hz.[/QUOTE] You probably would not of enjoyed how a little less than 100 years ago [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utility_frequency#25_Hz_origins]we were still using 25hz electricity.[/url]
Videos like this make me want to become an engineer.
better quality audio: [video=youtube;GO-v2yxvQ6U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO-v2yxvQ6U[/video]
The attention to detail and care used in making these televisions is truly amazing. It's neat to see how consumerism has evolved from ensuring quality, long lasting products, to today's mass produced, mass replaced, consumerism. Now, I'm not saying the old days are better, I just think there is a sense of charm lost that isn't present nowadays.
[QUOTE=Silikone;50699494]What a mess that has created. So many problems would never exist if we both used 60Hz.[/QUOTE] There were actually experiments using the existing 405 line system with NTSC colour but obviously never got off the ground. It was better to wait because PAL was a better colour system and 625 lines gave us more resolution than in the states.
I don't think I've heard more uses of the word "quality" in such a timespan in my life.
[QUOTE=Gnomical;50701040]The attention to detail and care used in making these televisions is truly amazing. It's neat to see how consumerism has evolved from ensuring quality, long lasting products, to today's mass produced, mass replaced, consumerism. Now, I'm not saying the old days are better, I just think there is a sense of charm lost that isn't present nowadays.[/QUOTE] i personally think production then > now only because of quality stressing. i dont like how now adays the products i buy have a chance of being defective or just up and die after a small time of use. theres a charm having old electronics/tech that work 40, 50, even 60 years later. i want to be able to do something like that with the tech we have now.
of course everything is made of plastic nowadays, the average lifespan of a plastic product is fucking shit in comparison
[QUOTE=Gnomical;50701040]The attention to detail and care used in making these televisions is truly amazing. It's neat to see how consumerism has evolved from ensuring quality, long lasting products, to today's mass produced, mass replaced, consumerism. Now, I'm not saying the old days are better, I just think there is a sense of charm lost that isn't present nowadays.[/QUOTE] There is a certain charm to older appliances that just isn't present these days. I have a collection of antique fans, and they all run like they're brand new off the assembly line. Every manufacturer also has their own unique appearance for their various lineups of fans that were offered throughout the years, some of the old fan related literature is great. This 9" General Electric is from 1937, and it will easily last another 80 years with minimal maintenance. [t]http://puu.sh/o7D12/2eb99d6ba5.jpg[/t] [t]http://puu.sh/o7CXG/6e6051a65d.jpg[/t]
Shame that in many old things parts can just fail due to age, rubber for example. [editline]13th July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Derpmonster;50702390]i personally think production then > now only because of quality stressing. i dont like how now adays the products i buy have a chance of being defective or just up and die after a small time of use. theres a charm having old electronics/tech that work 40, 50, even 60 years later. i want to be able to do something like that with the tech we have now.[/QUOTE] Agree, but even defective products are alright when the stores that sell them not try their hardest to accuse the end user of improper use when it's actually the product's fault.
Now I see why people mourn for this era of American manufacturing. These jobs simply are not available anymore, and there were a colossal number of employees in that video.
[QUOTE=_Kent_;50703265]Now I see why people mourn for this era of American manufacturing. These jobs simply are not available anymore, and there were a colossal number of employees in that video.[/QUOTE] Yeah those days are long gone. I live roughly 20 minutes away from the General Electric plant in Schenectady, NY. It used to be GE's main HQ and it was quite an impressive complex in the early to mid 1900s, almost like a miniature city. Now it's mostly just parking lots with three office buildings and a main manufacturing building. [I]A lot[/I] of people were cut from that location when they really started downsizing and stopped producing everything in-house.
[QUOTE=SuperDuperScoot;50701511]I don't think I've heard more uses of the word "quality" in such a timespan in my life.[/QUOTE] welcome to america baby that's what we're all about
Consumerism sucks but there are some aspects that benefit from it, notably tech that becomes obsolete in a couple of years. No point in QA testing to ensure decades of use if the components you're testing will be obscenely outdated just within a half decade. Only people that benefit are collectors and such, and most of the high-end stuff you buy generally does have this sort of quality, albeit not to this extreme.
[QUOTE=Zorlok;50703705]Yeah those days are long gone. I live roughly 20 minutes away from the General Electric plant in Schenectady, NY. It used to be GE's main HQ and it was quite an impressive complex in the early to mid 1900s, almost like a miniature city. Now it's mostly just parking lots with three office buildings and a main manufacturing building. [I]A lot[/I] of people were cut from that location when they really started downsizing and stopped producing everything in-house.[/QUOTE] I'm from Rochester (where Kodak is from) and the same happened with all the Kodak buildings.
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