Half Life 3 WILL Release, Here's Why [VNN] - General

[video=youtube;kdvzwXQcWoY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdvzwXQcWoY[/video] From Valve News Network

He makes a lot of sense, which is kind of unusual for VNN.

What has VNN said that hasn't made sense?

[QUOTE=wauterboi;48297209]What has VNN said that hasn't made sense?[/QUOTE] Now that I think about it, I'm very wrong. Please disagree my post.

He has a lot of good points, a lot of stuff i didn't think about either. I dunno if i like the concept of HL3 being released as a VR thingy, though it could be interessting.

[QUOTE=Handsome Matt;48297242][video=youtube;50lSIaSR3zc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50lSIaSR3zc[/video] original video based on their "1 anonymous source at valve"[/QUOTE] my dad works at valve. he told me half life 3 is coming out

[QUOTE=wauterboi;48297209]What has VNN said that hasn't made sense?[/QUOTE] All of his TF2 videos have tons of factual errors -- so much that they're banned from being posted on the TF2 subreddit. Otherwise, he makes very structurally sound and enticing content.

[QUOTE=code_gs;48297312]All of his TF2 videos have tons of factual errors -- so much that they're banned from being posted on the TF2 subreddit. Otherwise, he makes very structurally sound and enticing content.[/QUOTE] I've heard one of his talks on TF2 and it sounds like he generalizes for the sake of how complex the game is.

I think its pretty common knowledge that Half-Life 3 will be released at a given point in time. I also don't quite understand that most people who make the Half-Life 3 conspiracy's were actually really young when Half-Life 2 came out.

[QUOTE=wauterboi;48297317]I've heard one of his talks on TF2 and it sounds like he generalizes for the sake of how complex the game is.[/QUOTE]Someone here thought he'd found hidden weapon models in the game files that turned out to be mods he didn't know he had installed, and he could barely retract his statement before VNN had a video out about the "seeecret weapons!!". He also spread misinformation about TF2C which gave a lot of people the wrong idea about the project.

[quote=VNN]Valve management would never strip employees away from a project they were interested in doing[/quote] Did he forget that Jeri Ellsworth and Rick Johnson were fired because Valve decided to put all resources on VR instead of AR? They loved working on their project at Valve so much they made their own company and are continuing it to this day.

[QUOTE=Marlamin;48297548]Did he forget that Jeri Ellsworth and Rick Johnson were fired because Valve decided to put all resources on VR instead of AR? They loved working on their project at Valve so much they made their own company and are continuing it to this day.[/QUOTE] Wasn't it because Valve was moving away from that, so they weren't needed?

[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;48297570]Wasn't it because Valve was moving away from that, so they weren't needed?[/QUOTE] Sure, but that still goes against his "employees work on what they want to work on" argument. Valve does have management, and they do make decisions that affect the company.

[QUOTE=Marlamin;48297632]Sure, but that still goes against his "employees work on what they want to work on" argument. Valve does have management, and they do make decisions that affect the company.[/QUOTE] Yeah they probably don't send whoever into the half-life 3 discussion room for obvious reasons.

[QUOTE=Marlamin;48297632]Sure, but that still goes against his "employees work on what they want to work on" argument. Valve does have management, and they do make decisions that affect the company.[/QUOTE] I'm not sure of their other skills or credentials but if Valve hires 10 hardware engineers, and then decides two years later to give up on hardware, those people are getting fired. They can't move anywhere else in the company. I don't think anyone actually believes Valve has 0 management, but that their system is so nontraditional they might as well not have any. Employee -> Supervisor -> Area Manager -> Manager ect that doesn't exist at Valve but of course somewhere along the line they have to have high level staff able to fire people or else the company would be a bloated monster full of people sitting around doing nothing. (A lot of people think this is the truth anyways)

Man he gets close to being worked up quite a few times in this video, I know someone said shit you dont agree with but clam down son, its ok.

Half-Life 3 will come out soon. Source 2 is on the horizon and even though DOTA 2 will be using it first, its doubtful that Valve won't release a new half-life title on Source 2 to really showcase it. DOTA 2 won't show it off enough. I really don't hope it will become VR cause I still see VR as a big gimmick that you have to buy devices for and there has been nothing to convince me otherwise so far.

Valve's interests I feel are pretty spot on regarding consumer base and the attention/love they get. And he's right about some games just not being able to sustain themselves much anymore, the last big TF2 update that brought any new life into the game was MvM since then we've just boiled down to item/skin updates with the normal holiday events.

Ah yes, this video completely confirms how I've regarded this whole deal/wait with HL3 all along, based on all the shit the people at VALVE themselves have said over the years. Not anyone else. Certainly not some "The Know" assholes "journalists" who simply want to generate more income for their Utube channel.

The only guys that are saying valve only cares about profit are the newest generation of gamers which hasn't experienced the love and compassion valve has shown all gamers in the past decade. Remember when a bunch of guys basically raided valve's office just to speak to gabe about valve related stuff? where he confirms (in a gabe way) that hl3 is in production? Try that shit at EA, Ubisoft, whatever company there is and spend the rest of the night in solitary. Valve has always shown fans as much love as they get back.

- "Valve employees get to work on whatever they want" - that is probably true up to a point. If a project is far enough along I'm willing to bet Valve will [I]strongly encourage [/I]people to switch to it if they need more people on it. - "Valve's desks have wheels" - there was a very disgruntled ex-Valve employee who mentioned this was just "company cool-aid/propaganda" and never actually used in the office. - "Well documented this freedom exists" - only by the company handbook. I've never really seen employees talk about it besides the disgruntled one above. That clip of Chet Faliszek doesn't really support this either as he isn't exactly a generic Valve employee. - I don't think Valve is dumb enough to make HL3 VR only. Not everyone will shell out $500 (or whatever) for a Vive on top of their gaming PCs just to play it. - "Valve working towards profit is not how Valve works at all" - except that is how Valve works. Valve are "innovators" and they only "innovate" when there's money to be had. HL1 was made because Gabe saw that DOOM was more popular than Microsoft Windows. Since their experiment with microtransactions I don't think Valve is interested in making traditional games at all anymore (they've even done interviews as such - there has to be some multiplayer component (where in they can put microtransactions)). Portal 2 was probably Valve's last traditional game. They attempted to have an online store but it did extremely poorly. Not to mention what the hell is innovative about Dota 2? F2P moba with microtransactions and steam workshop - nothing new here. But there is a shit load of money. While I don't think the original story is that trustworthy this guy is just making shit up too. Fact is no one knows what is going on with HL3 except Valve - and Valve are fine keeping it that way.

Honestly, I never even bothered to watch the original video by The Know, because every other video I've watched from them is just a mess of speculation as well as it comes off rather click bait-y. As for if Half Life 3 will release or not, I honestly don't care anymore. If it doesn't come out, I'll understand because it'll be obvious that Valve didn't know what to do with it or just lacked the passion and interest to work on it. If it does, I'm sure it'll be a great game, but it'll probably be a massive disappointment to a lot of people due to the hype surrounding it. I'd actually rather see Valve work on a completely new IP though, perhaps in a new genre as well. The last original game they had a hand in was Alien Swarm. Every other game has just been a sequel.

I wish people would stop getting hyped for half life, you're just going to end up disappointing yourself. Let it go for the time being.

VR would bring whole new level of depth to the FPS games. And VR is clearly one of the reasons HL3 is taking so long now. They are investing, in new innovations.. Also, isn't VR always played First-Person, in a way? And what other better FPS game could Valve have than... Half-life ?

[QUOTE=Valiantttt;48297995]Half-Life 3 will come out soon. Source 2 is on the horizon and even though DOTA 2 will be using it first, its doubtful that Valve won't release a new half-life title on Source 2 to really showcase it. DOTA 2 won't show it off enough. I really don't hope it will become VR cause I still see VR as a big gimmick that you have to buy devices for and there has been nothing to convince me otherwise so far.[/QUOTE] Left 4 Dead 3 is much more likely than Half-Life 3 to show off Source 2.

[QUOTE=dannass;48298154]Try that shit at EA, Ubisoft, whatever company there is and spend the rest of the night in solitary. Valve has always shown fans as much love as they get back.[/QUOTE] Not really: - Sales (Prices / sale theme or game) get worse every year - They continue to add things then never refine them (Steam Music, Steam Video Player) - Have only produced games with ingame transaction stores for five years. [Excluding Alien Swarm] (Which is apparently okay because Valve) - Release absolutely no information on Half Life 3. Fans resort to videos like these just to get what may feel like official information, proving Valve needs to communicate. It's been almost a decade. - Not allowing some developers who have already released a game on Steam to release new games to the store. They've been forced to go through Greenlight. Again. - No proper system of content control on Greenlight. (Which they will soon kill) - No proper quality control system for Early Access. We all know how good games on EA are phrased as "Really good for Early Access!" and not "A good game". - Releasing community content as paid DLC for their games. (e.g: CS:GO Operation Vanguard which is no longer for sale) - Resisting any form of refunds or resale for the entirety of Steam's existence, causing them to get hit by international litigation until they released refunds this year. - Have dropped support for some games entirely, leaving them with ridiculous bugs. (e.g: Dod:s was completely abandoned. Turning your flashlight on would crash the game for six months.) I like Valve's history as much as the next guy, but I'm not going to pretend they've done anything to earn my favor for the last decade. With the last almost decade and all this in mind I can't possibly get hyped for the next Half-Life.

While I agree HL3 will happen and will be a VR title, I wouldn't be surprised if Valve only properly invested themselves into it after it's finally clear if VR will be a big thing or a niche thing (and no, it's [I]not[/I] clear at this point). This guy is helplessly optimistic and states subjective opinions as facts. Saying how Half Life 2 development went in 2000 has very little bearing on how would Half Life 3 development go FIFTEEN FUCKING YEARS LATER. Also, being able to say things like "and they will do it this way because they [I]care[/I] and they [I]need their fans[/I]" with a straight face is something I can barely compute as a thing a normal adult human should be capable of.

Thanks for posting my video! If you guys have any comments or criticisms on this video, or my videos as a whole, I would love to hear them.

[QUOTE=Super Muffin;48298498]Not really: - Sales (Prices / sale theme or game) get worse every year - They continue to add things then never refine them (Steam Music, Steam Video Player) - Have only produced games with ingame transaction stores for five years. [Excluding Alien Swarm] (Which is apparently okay because Valve) - Release absolutely no information on Half Life 3. Fans resort to videos like these just to get what may feel like official information, proving Valve needs to communicate. It's been almost a decade. - Not allowing some developers who have already released a game on Steam to release new games to the store. They've been forced to go through Greenlight. Again. - No proper system of content control on Greenlight. (Which they will soon kill) - No proper quality control system for Early Access. We all know how good games on EA are phrased as "Really good for Early Access!" and not "A good game". - Releasing community content as paid DLC for their games. (e.g: CS:GO Operation Vanguard which is no longer for sale) - Resisting any form of refunds for the entirety of Steam's existence, causing them to get hit by international litigation until they released refunds this year. - Have dropped support for some games entirely, leaving them with ridiculous bugs. (e.g: Dod:s was completely abandoned. Turning your flashlight on would crash the game for six months.) I like Valve's history as much as the next guy, but I'm not going to pretend they've done anything to earn my favor for the last decade. With the last almost decade and all this in mind I can't possibly get hyped for the next Half-Life.[/QUOTE] On the other hand this is another kind of bullshit. Where were you when they introduced refunds for which everyone is eligible without having to as much as give a reason until 2 hours of gameplay? Where have you been when that change made them fucking take Batman out of the store because of it?

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;48298574] Where were you when they introduced refunds[/QUOTE] Hooray, they did one thing they should have done years ago the first time they got sued. [b]e:[/b] I should add, even Origin had a decent refund system before Steam did.