I swear if you listen close enough you can hear him fighting to restrain an ego stroke.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjlF_iSo1Og[/media]
I'd argue TNG did more then TOS since TNG is 7 seasons and not 2 :v:
I would say whole Star Trek (including TOS) and some other sci-fi series extremely helped with imagination of innovators, researchers, scientists, engineers and such ...
so I must agree, ST did changed world to better ...
now, can we finally get good new ST series and movies ? ;)
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I would argue that all the series of star trek tattle problems of their era but some of the TOS films have a very good feeling and tone compared to some of the later TNG that becomes very serious and dark towards the end and other series incorporate this like Voyager and Deep Space Nine.
A good example of how dark TNG got is picard after being assimilated, He was broken.
[video=youtube;oeGMHbK4NlA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeGMHbK4NlA[/video]
Not that I totally disagree, but that isn't TNG proper tho. That's First Contact. The TNG movies are very different in tone from the show and even late TNG wasn't anywhere close to how dark say Voyager was. DS9 is serious/dark out the wazoo. Overall TNG remains [I]relatively[/I] light and airy even in the later seasons.
Picard's character in particular is dramatically different from the show to the movies. RLM/Mr. Plinkett called it The Tale of Two Picards in one of their reviews and it's so apt. He is definitely haunted by the assimilation but he holds it together a lot better in the show, not going out on some silly revenge fantasy. The scene above and the one where he guns them down in the holodeck was downright insulting to the character they had built up over years.
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;51020626]Not that I totally disagree, but that isn't TNG proper tho. That's First Contact. The TNG movies are very different in tone from the show and even late TNG wasn't anywhere close to how dark say Voyager was. DS9 is serious/dark out the wazoo. Overall TNG remains [I]relatively[/I] light and airy even in the later seasons.
Picard's character in particular is dramatically different from the show to the movies. RLM/Mr. Plinkett called it The Tale of Two Picards in one of their reviews and it's so apt. He is definitely haunted by the assimilation but he holds it together a lot better in the show, not going out on some silly revenge fantasy. The scene above and the one where he guns them down in the holodeck was downright insulting to the character they had built up over years.[/QUOTE]
Keep in mind he doesn't want to loose the enterprise again and the fate of humanity is at stake while he is getting major traumatizing flashbacks.
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;51020626]Not that I totally disagree, but that isn't TNG proper tho. That's First Contact. The TNG movies are very different in tone from the show and even late TNG wasn't anywhere close to how dark say Voyager was. DS9 is serious/dark out the wazoo. Overall TNG remains [I]relatively[/I] light and airy even in the later seasons.
Picard's character in particular is dramatically different from the show to the movies. RLM/Mr. Plinkett called it The Tale of Two Picards in one of their reviews and it's so apt. He is definitely haunted by the assimilation but he holds it together a lot better in the show, not going out on some silly revenge fantasy. The scene above and the one where he guns them down in the holodeck was downright insulting to the character they had built up over years.[/QUOTE]
Couldn't agree more.
In my opinion the TNG movies can jump into a black hole. The last one in particular. The way they ignore or re-tread plot elements is just an insult to the series.
[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;51020644]Keep in mind he doesn't want to loose the enterprise again and the fate of humanity is at stake while he is getting major traumatizing flashbacks.[/QUOTE]
Still TV picard, is better if i am no mistaken there was this large alien thing was going to kill alot of people but picard still wanted to stop it in peaceful terms
[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;51034774]Still TV picard, is better if i am no mistaken there was this large alien thing was going to kill alot of people but picard still wanted to stop it in peaceful terms[/QUOTE]
Yeah but he doesn't have a personal connection to that. Look at DS9 in episode 1 where Sisko brings up the battle of wolf and Picard gets instantly angry.
[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;51037754]Yeah but he doesn't have a personal connection to that. Look at DS9 in episode 1 where Sisko brings up the battle of wolf and Picard gets instantly angry.[/QUOTE]
Is this what your referring to? The audio is horrible.
[video=youtube;mS6td4eg-m8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS6td4eg-m8[/video]
I really dislike the opinion that Picard's characterization and hatred of the Borg was wrong in first contact. Watching episodes like Family and I Borg in TNG or even his brief conversation with Sisko in Emissary shows exactly why he is that way. The Borg broke him, he resents them and he lives with the guilt of all the people that died because he was assimilated. In First Contact they are on his ship killing his crew and yet again he fears being powerless to stop them, that's why he goes out of his way to go down to Engineering and shoot as many of them as he could. The Holodeck scene and the conference room outburst are great scenes of a man who is being pushed over the edge and seething with rage.
I read both of his biographies.
Don't ask me why.
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