I get the point of the video but saying "owning a nice cat" is the same as "owning a handgun" is going a bit far and it's just confusing.
when australia banned "awful cats" in 1996 people just mauled each other with "gardening trowels" or w/e instead at nearly the same rate
the vast majority of cat crimes in the US are performed with the cute cuddly variety
I get what this video is trying to say but some deeper research would go a long way
I feel like the comparison could've worked better with pit bulls or dog breeds.
For example: A good trainer raises a good pit bull as a loyal companion, teaches it some tricks and maybe how to protect the household, while the asshole down the street, who has warrants out for his arrest in other towns, chains his pit bull to a fence and trains it to fight other dogs.
One day, the asshole neighbor then decides to take the chain off, the fighting dog runs free, and the good neighbor gets mauled while taking his dog for a walk.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;53191998]I'm a big fan of the fact that it starts with "we don't want to ban anything" and then goes on to say "we just want some rules". Rules of course, that will inevitably fail, and another shooting will happen, and then everyone will say "oh I guess we need more rules", and then those will fail, and we'll get more "guess we need more rules", and then eventually you've gone away from "we just want some rules" to "we just want everyone disarmed".
Its an extremely naive video, to say the least, and comes from a perspective that "just a few rules" is all anyone wants, when in reality the gun control crowd cant decide if they want to ban everything, or implement "just a few rules" or implement some sort of easily abused licensing scheme, or put some assinine tax on gun ownership, or implement some assinine "insurance policy" shit for gun ownership.
I do appreciate the art though, even though it was simplistic.[/QUOTE]
The US does need more rules though. Even if there is always going to be an inevitable fear mongering slippery slope near by.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;53191998]I'm a big fan of the fact that it starts with "we don't want to ban anything" and then goes on to say "we just want some rules". Rules of course, that will inevitably fail, and another shooting will happen, and then everyone will say "oh I guess we need more rules", and then those will fail, and we'll get more "guess we need more rules", and then eventually you've gone away from "we just want some rules" to "we just want everyone disarmed".
Its an extremely naive video, to say the least, and comes from a perspective that "just a few rules" is all anyone wants, when in reality the gun control crowd cant decide if they want to ban everything, or implement "just a few rules" or implement some sort of easily abused licensing scheme, or put some assinine tax on gun ownership, or implement some assinine "insurance policy" shit for gun ownership.
I do appreciate the art though, even though it was simplistic.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't help that the same people who say "we need more rules" actually go on to implement those rules when they have no fucking idea how a gun even works.
I was hoping this video would teach me the difference between a clip and a magazine using cat analogies.
[QUOTE=Ott;53192195]I was hoping this video would teach me the difference between a clip and a magazine using cat analogies.[/QUOTE]
I assume the pills hidden in catfood that my cat keep throwing back up are en-bloc clips?
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;53191998]I'm a big fan of the fact that it starts with "we don't want to ban anything" and then goes on to say "we just want some rules". Rules of course, that will inevitably fail, and another shooting will happen, and then everyone will say "oh I guess we need more rules", and then those will fail, and we'll get more "guess we need more rules", and then eventually you've gone away from "we just want some rules" to "we just want everyone disarmed".
Its an extremely naive video, to say the least, and comes from a perspective that "just a few rules" is all anyone wants, when in reality the gun control crowd cant decide if they want to ban everything, or implement "just a few rules" or implement some sort of easily abused licensing scheme, or put some assinine tax on gun ownership, or implement some assinine "insurance policy" shit for gun ownership.
I do appreciate the art though, even though it was simplistic.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure "just a few rules" is intended to just be vague. What I took from this video is that he's trying to inspire a discussion, not be the discussion(If I'm making any sense).
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;53192171]Is it fearmongering when an outright ban has been stated as a goal for several anti gun politicians? Is it fear mongering when we've seen the exact thing happen in other countries?
No, its not, its being realistic about what the actual end goal is.[/QUOTE]
Yeah it is. Because there needs to be more restrictions regardless of the camp trying to ban guns. Those restrictions are always sidelined by slippery slope nonesense.
This video is not complete without Postal 2 references
So people never killed people.
It was cats killing people all along! I have to protect myself, anyone know where to order a cheetah in German?
The biggest flaw in this metaphor is that guns cannot wander and reproduce. We do produce more guns than we need as a whole, but I blame that more on Capitalism than anything, I mean guns sell and they're worth a decent penny. So with that said, I am totally pro-gun, but at the same time, WHY IS IT HARDER TO GET A CAR THAN A GUN, WHY DO I HAVE TO RE-REGISTER MY CAR EVERY YEAR AND NOT MY GUN, WHY DO I NEED CONSTANT IDENTIFICATION AND INSURANCE TO OWN MY CAR AND NOT A GUN. But I'm not a person who believes in all these regulations, I wish the state/gov't would trust me to maintain and be responsible for my property more. Still find it funny that cars (which I do believe are more dangerous than guns) are actually more regulated than guns, even though the average American household has more cars than people inside.
[QUOTE=ghosevil;53192082]It doesn't help that the same people who say "we need more rules" actually go on to implement those rules when they have no fucking idea how a gun even works.[/QUOTE]
You don't need to understand the intricacies of how something works to legislate it. The politicians that actually write and vote on legislation can't know everything about everything after all.
Defer to experts in the fields and gather the opinions of multiple experts to form legislation that actually works for whatever it is.
Oh, nice video, can u post more?
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;53192383]Except the legislators don't defer to experts, they defer to feelings. Otherwise you'd never hear the term "a shoulder thing that goes up" or "evil black rifles" or "assault weapons".
If we deferred to experts, there'd be no one in the "ban assault weapons" camp.[/QUOTE]
I'm aware. I never claimed they did actually defer to experts. But I'm somewhat tired of this "they don't know guns though!!!" meme.
Politicians from all over the world, across the entire spectrum have a habit of ignoring experts when they really, really don't like the outcome mind, as evidenced with things like the war on drugs and T-100 Maybots insistence that we can remove encryption.
[QUOTE=Loadingue;53191970]I get the point of the video but saying "owning a nice cat" is the same as "owning a handgun" is going a bit far and it's just confusing.[/QUOTE]
Yeah.
Cats are way more dangerous. But just like guns, we can't resist them :v:
[QUOTE=hexpunK;53192423]I'm aware. I never claimed they did actually defer to experts. But I'm somewhat tired of this "they don't know guns though!!!" meme.
Politicians from all over the world, across the entire spectrum have a habit of ignoring experts when they really, really don't like the outcome mind, as evidenced with things like the war on drugs and T-100 Maybots insistence that we can remove encryption.[/QUOTE]
The problem is't that they're ignorant. The problem is they [I]don't care[/I] that they're ignorant. Like in your example, politicians not knowing how encryption works is fine. Them ignoring experts because "I'm not going to listen to some egghead tell me I can't protect my country!" isn't.
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