i can only imagine the guys inside when that thing does 60 to jump the trench
i mean you have a 50 ton tank going airborn, thats gotta be one hell of a ride
[QUOTE=Sableye;44682770]i can only imagine the guys inside when that thing does 60 to jump the trench
i mean you have a 50 ton tank going airborn, thats gotta be one hell of a ride[/QUOTE]
It's not [I]that [/I]big of a trench, I reckon you could make it across at like 25mph. It's a mere speedbump!
Apparently it's a German Leopard..
So, I guess if Germany invades you (again?), you will need to make a deeper trench..
I want to see how effective it would be against permafrost(assuming they can even dig the trench in permafrost)
[QUOTE=Dr.C;44682880]I want to see how effective it would be against permafrost(assuming they can even dig the trench in permafrost)[/QUOTE]
who needs to dig? just pour some flamable liquid on the ground in a trench-shape, and burn till melted, then remove kebob
But all that flammable liquid would be better used making molotovs for the anti-russian insurgency
[QUOTE=Chinook249;44682786]I reckon you could make it across at like 25mph. It's a mere speedbump![/QUOTE]
Well they did. I would counter tanks with tanks instead of trenches.
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for honorable reasons.
You've gotta have balls of steel to jump over that thing going 50. Not that I'm even marginally surprised that it worked, but if the tank dipped and caught the lip, you'd go from 50 to zero in a metal box.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;44682937]Well they did. I would counter tanks with tanks instead of trenches.
[editline]29th April 2014[/editline]
for honorable reasons.[/QUOTE]
I mean to clear it over the top instead of sort of going through. But sure
[QUOTE=FunnyBunny;44683016]You've gotta have balls of steel to jump over that thing going 50. Not that I'm even marginally surprised that it worked, but if the tank dipped and caught the lip, you'd go from 50 to zero in a metal box.[/QUOTE]
No, the tank has enough strength and inertia to just tear he fuck through the earth, just like it did when it went slowly. You'd probably go from 50 to like, 30 in the blink of an eye, but you wouldn't be stopped.
M1A2's are neat but they sound nothing like a conventional engine that big just growling away, like old fighter planes and such
make a wider/deeper trench?
[QUOTE=paindoc;44683082]M1A2's are neat but they sound nothing like a conventional engine that big just growling away, like old fighter planes and such[/QUOTE]
First off, that's a German Leopard 2A5, which uses a big dirty ol' diesel engine with a good roar.
Second...
[video=youtube;p05mf6rk18A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p05mf6rk18A[/video]
M1's gas-turbine sounds totally awesome.
[QUOTE=FunnyBunny;44683016]You've gotta have balls of steel to jump over that thing going 50. Not that I'm even marginally surprised that it worked, but if the tank dipped and caught the lip, you'd go from 50 to zero in a metal box.[/QUOTE]
A [b]50-60 ton[/b] metal box. It won't come to a full stop by hitting some dirt wall, it'll tear right through it. Yeah the crew might get uncomfortable, to say the least, but they're trained for that sort of things.
[QUOTE=Riller;44683103]First off, that's a German Leopard 2A5, which uses a big dirty ol' diesel engine with a good roar.
Second...
[video=youtube;p05mf6rk18A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p05mf6rk18A[/video]
M1's gas-turbine sounds totally awesome.[/QUOTE]
I just said they sound nothing like the big ol diesels in quite a few modern tanks. The Abrams is plenty badass in its own way.
Also lmao at this is why LT's dont trust their NCO's
I really don't think trenches would stop the enemy from deploying a bridge. All it takes is one tank to roll up with an extendible bridge attachment, deploy it, and keep on rolling.
That manuver would be next to impossible in combat conditions, I can only imagine how many anti-tank missiles you would eat if you stopped that long under fire.
the intention of a ditch that size is to do exactly what it did in that video, slow a tank down. If you want to knock out a tank with a ditch you either put explosives in said ditch or make it deeper
[editline]30th April 2014[/editline]
also imagine if the tank had tried to do this with its barrel in combat position and not in travel position :v:
[QUOTE=IceWarrior98;44683290]I really don't think trenches would stop the enemy from deploying a bridge. All it takes is one tank to roll up with an extendible bridge attachment, deploy it, and keep on rolling.[/QUOTE]
The point of stationary defences, like ditches, hedgehogs, dragon teeth, blocks, even minefields and AT emplacements is not to stop enemy from advancing but to slow their advance down and get some time to prepare active defence and counter-actions. Secondary tasks are crippling their morale and make them vulnerable for counter-attack on the spot.
The idea of anti-tank trenches works because the driver doesn't see them (covered, hidden by foliage, etc) and the gun barrel gets bent when they fall in, not to stop them completely.
Tanks don't drive into battle with guns facing backwards.
[QUOTE=Sableye;44682770]i can only imagine the guys inside when that thing does 60 to jump the trench
i mean you have a 50 ton tank going airborn, thats gotta be one hell of a ride[/QUOTE]
They might not have even felt anything, actually. The momentum from that thing at that speed kept it flying as if the ground was totally undisturbed in that high speed test. The medium speed test had a bit of a bounce to it, though.
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