Dead fish still moving during filleting (after its head got removed)
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[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWB3aOX_h4Y[/media]
Man can that fish bark
That is fucking freaky.
I assume it's got such a simple brain that a significant amount of its "mind" exists in the spine, which is still in the body. Still, it's fucking weird. Living things are weird. We have this idealization of how we work, and then you see some shit like this is and it's just a reminder that we're this weird bag of complicated distributed systems instead of just a brain controlling a body.
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the salt had something to do with it.
[QUOTE=skyms2663;51977955]I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the salt had something to do with it.[/QUOTE]
That would be random spasms. This one is actually reacting to its environment, see above.
Animals in general have strange as hell nervous systems.
There was the Chinese chef who was bitten by a snake's head he had cut off for soup not that long ago.
Even the dog is freaking out.
Man this reminds me of catching cod in the north atlantic and having to kill the fish, we were told specifically not to gut the fish on the spot or club it or anything like that, but to cut into their gills so a lot of blood spills out, because that was more humane or some shit, Some of the fish were like this too. It's probably like that headless chicken that survived and toured for months on end.
Yeah welcome to the wonders of the nervous system, the spine was still intact and this fish is cold blooded by nature, so their cells can last a lot longer without blood flow and oxygen supply, what you're seeing here is the spine reacting to the pain being inflicted by the knife removing the scales or being grabbed at the tail and in result causing the muscles to contract.
Its the exact same effect you'd get if you put your hand into something warm and you pull it out before even thinking about it, basically a danger reaction essentially encoded into your spine. Most involuntary reactions are actually done by the spine, not the brain which is why stuff like this can happen.
The simple solution to this would have been to fillet it so it was disconnected from the spine but that'd make it a lot harder to remove the scales so v:v:v
"Is his head moving when he does that?"
... This makes me wonder about what happens when we die. What if we still feel pain?
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;51978846]... This makes me wonder about what happens when we die. What if we still feel pain?[/QUOTE]
No, this is just a reflexive response by the nervous system. The fish is dead and feels nothing.
[QUOTE=NeverGoWest;51978140]Man this reminds me of catching cod in the north atlantic and having to kill the fish, we were told specifically not to gut the fish on the spot or club it or anything like that, but to cut into their gills so a lot of blood spills out, because that was more humane or some shit, Some of the fish were like this too. It's probably like that headless chicken that survived and toured for months on end.[/QUOTE]
the most humane way to kill a fish is to destroy its brain or the bleed it out after knocking it unconscious by bonking it on the head
bleeding out while alive kinda sucks, even if it's only for a few seconds
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;51978846]... This makes me wonder about what happens when we die. What if we still feel pain?[/QUOTE]
Pain is a psychological process. If a man were decapitated and then immediately kicked in the nads, the pain signal would probably make it to the spinal cord but alas it wouldn't make it to the brain to be processed and read as "hey I got kicked in the nads, this fucking hurts"
[QUOTE=Karmah;51979220]Pain is a psychological process. If a man were decapitated and then immediately kicked in the nads, the pain signal would probably make it to the spinal cord but alas it wouldn't make it to the brain to be processed and read as "hey I got kicked in the nads, this fucking hurts"[/QUOTE]
would the corpse still grab at his nuts?
[QUOTE=edberg;51979327]would the corpse still grab at his nuts?[/QUOTE]
Not in a human, since that reflex is processed in the brain
True fact: The head is more then likely still "alive" as well. If you were to make noises or apply pressure to the fins on top, it'd most likely respond to it.
This also works on the following animals in my experience: Rabbits, snakes, all manner of birds(mostly doves/gulls), and rats.
Some Asian dishes are served with the fish still barely alive and the mere thought of my food still moving freaks me the fuck out.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;51979377]True fact: The head is more then likely still "alive" as well. If you were to make noises or apply pressure to the fins on top, it'd most likely respond to it.
This also works on the following animals in my experience: Rabbits, snakes, all manner of birds(mostly doves/gulls), and rats.[/QUOTE]
Making me shiver man
I think this is why some butchering techniques for fish involve slicing off the tail then shoving a wire into the spine to obliterate the spinal cord.
[QUOTE=FunnyStarRunner;51979419]Some Asian dishes are served with the fish still barely alive and the mere thought of my food still moving freaks me the fuck out.[/QUOTE]
shit like this
[video=youtube;dzj95jHuPiw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzj95jHuPiw[/video]
i can just imagine the tentacles wriggling as they go down my throat, i am certain i would vomit
i can confirm this happens for almost any freshly killed fish
i went to the butcher to get a brand-spanking new red bream for supper, and its head had been lopped off. i grabbed its tail in the bag to try and fit it into my groceries, and it twisted and stuck my hand with some of its fin spikes. hurt like hell, i ate the shit out of it as revenge.
[QUOTE=FunnyStarRunner;51979419]Some Asian dishes are served with the fish still barely alive and the mere thought of my food still moving freaks me the fuck out.[/QUOTE]
I once ate sashimi where (i think) the fish was cut up alive because when they served me it was the sashimi bits of fish on top of the actual fish and the head was still moving staring at me with it dead eyes while I try to enjoy my goddamn meal without feeling guilty.
It was in Korea.
[QUOTE=adam1172;51979924]I once ate sashimi where (i think) the fish was cut up alive because when they served me it was the sashimi bits of fish on top of the actual fish and the head was still moving staring at me with it dead eyes while I try to enjoy my goddamn meal without feeling guilty.
It was in Korea.[/QUOTE]
I've seen this Korean dish that was basically prepared by chucking a live octopus into a boiling pot and trying to stop it from escaping.
the people in the video were very humored by it compared to if it were to happen to me because i would shit myself
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;51979504]shit like this
[video=youtube;dzj95jHuPiw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzj95jHuPiw[/video]
i can just imagine the tentacles wriggling as they go down my throat, i am certain i would vomit[/QUOTE]
Isn't this just dead muscle tissue reacting to the salt in the sauce??
That is nothing, chicken can run around for quite a while if you chop their head off. I had one running around my backyard when my aunt did it. And it didn't just move its legs while lying on the floor, it really did run.
[QUOTE=AntonioR;51980800]That is nothing, chicken can run around for quite a while if you chop their head off. I had one running around my backyard when my aunt did it. And it didn't just move its legs while lying on the floor, it really did run.[/QUOTE]i remember a tale of a chicken that lived for quite a bit after its beheading, because the axe didn't hit cut off some critical part in its brain/spine, cerebral cortex i think. it became something of a national sensation and its owner grew fond of it and fed it by carefully giving it food and water directly through the esophagus. it eventually died when it choked on a grain. can't remember the chicken's name.
[editline]19th March 2017[/editline]
ah yes, it was [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_the_Headless_Chicken]Mike[/url], and the head part that survived was the brain stem.
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