Undercover in Antifa (Their Tactics and Media Support Exposed) - General

[video=youtube;RmNz2jGzsDA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmNz2jGzsDA[/video] Summary: Comedians successfully infiltrate Antifa and discover the media has no interest in reporting on their premeditated violence kind of makes it hard to defend Antifa when they're so casually violent

Are you really sure it's not staged?

So are media biased for or against antifa I am getting extremely mixed messages everywhere

[QUOTE=WhyNott;52745938]So are media biased for or against antifa I am getting extremely mixed messages everywhere[/QUOTE] The media portrays them as "peaceful, non-violent" protesters until a skirmish begins, at which point they're portrayed as the victims of racism. They're spouting stuff like "Punch a Nazi" and "Fight Fascists!" while they attack neutral reporters for recording them and asking what they stand for, and telling people not to talk to reporters. They're [I]sending[/I] extremely mixed messages, intentionally, so that nobody can for sure say who's to blame.

Oh god are people really posting Crowder now. He's the epitome of conservative self-victimization and shitty dog-whistle politics. Everything this guy does is misrepresented, under-explored, or just wrong. "Looks like they'd been tracking this pansexual slash transgender queer with an axe to grind(...)" :s: [QUOTE=SassPD22;52745880]Are you really sure it's not staged?[/QUOTE] Anybody who can't tell it's staged in the first 10 seconds is an idiot. Police milling about and reporters declining to comment on a manufactured non-story isn't proof. And you know if some antifa person [I]actually [/I]got arrested Crowder would film the hell out of that then dox them.

[QUOTE=Quark:;52745966]The media portrays them as "peaceful, non-violent" protesters until a skirmish begins, at which point they're portrayed as the victims of racism. They're spouting stuff like "Punch a Nazi" and "Fight Fascists!" while they attack neutral reporters for recording them and asking what they stand for, and telling people not to talk to reporters. They're [I]sending[/I] extremely mixed messages, intentionally, so that nobody can for sure say who's to blame.[/QUOTE] the media doesnt portray them that way at all. just google "antifa" and look at the news results

imagine unironically posting crowder [editline]4th October 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Quark:;52745966] They're [I]sending[/I] extremely mixed messages, intentionally, so that nobody can for sure say who's to blame.[/QUOTE] or maybe because they're not particularly organised at all and are just a rough group of morons, some of which are extremely violent, some of which aren't. it'd be like saying the alt right send intentionally mixed messages because some of them aren't racist at all (on reddit and youtube) and some of them are (on 4chan and twitter)

[QUOTE=Quark:;52745966]The media portrays them as "peaceful, non-violent" protesters until a skirmish begins, at which point they're portrayed as the victims of racism. They're spouting stuff like "Punch a Nazi" and "Fight Fascists!" while they attack neutral reporters for recording them and asking what they stand for, and telling people not to talk to reporters. They're [I]sending[/I] extremely mixed messages, intentionally, so that nobody can for sure say who's to blame.[/QUOTE] The media calls them an extremist group...even msnbc....

[QUOTE=WhyNott;52745938]So are media biased for or against antifa I am getting extremely mixed messages everywhere[/QUOTE] some media like vox are biased toward them, media like fox will, of course, be biased against them. it's probably fine to point out, investigate, and elaborate on both instances of this happening.

[QUOTE=Mattk50;52747119]some media like vox are biased toward them, media like fox will, of course, be biased against them. it's probably fine to point out, investigate, and elaborate on both instances of this happening.[/QUOTE] Nope, even vox calls them an extremist group and says their violent behavior is counterproductive. They argue that the neo-nazi demonstrators bait them into violence and that the media coverage of them is one-sided because they often depict the left-wing protestors as violent and the right-wing protestors as totally peaceful when most of the time the violence is either two-way and/or most the protest is quite peaceful with only a small number of violent people on either side.

[QUOTE=Quark:;52745966][B]The media portrays them as "peaceful, non-violent" protesters until a skirmish begins, at which point they're portrayed as the victims of racism. [/B] They're spouting stuff like "Punch a Nazi" and "Fight Fascists!" while they attack neutral reporters for recording them and asking what they stand for, and telling people not to talk to reporters. They're [I]sending[/I] extremely mixed messages, intentionally, so that nobody can for sure say who's to blame.[/QUOTE] Do you have any citations for this claim? [QUOTE=uitham;52746002]the media doesnt portray them that way at all. just google "antifa" and look at the news results[/QUOTE] I did this and skipped through a handful of terrible sources to get to one considered decent while also, coincidently, left-leaning. [URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/antifa-guardians-against-fascism-or-lawless-thrill-seekers/2017/09/14/38db474c-93fe-11e7-89fa-bb822a46da5b_story.html?utm_term=.ce848cdde74e"]It's not exactly a ringing endorsement[/URL]. [QUOTE=WhyNott;52745938]So are media biased for or against antifa I am getting extremely mixed messages everywhere[/QUOTE] Media attention is attracted to violence and spectacle, which means the media isn't particularly biased for or against Antifa in particular, but Antifa's actions earn them a more critical eye because that's the coverage that sells.

[QUOTE=Vodkavia;52748021]My favourite part of Mattk50's post is that he's so fucking predictable that I called it in another thread less than half an hour ago. Pretty much a hand over fist admission that he's just blocking out any information that he finds inconvenient to his hateboner. "Fuck facts, my outrage comes first! Oh this media outlet isn't as overtly pissed about antifa as me? Well fuck they're biased towards them im not even going to bother to watch their videos and just make shit up and call it their position."[/QUOTE] Is this a serious post? My post was very general and i haven't made other posts on this subject recently, you just seem very eager to prove your own unrelated point from an unrelated thread i haven't even read. I think you're reading way too far into my post and projecting your own shitty thought patterns, If your "favorite part of my post" is you quoting an unrelated post you made then i think it's obvious you're wanting to read something that isn't there. I might as well elaborate on the general point I was making, something you seem to agree with but didn't grasp (maybe your "hateboner" blinded you, stop projecting please), that you can have media that is biased towards a thing and media that is biased against a thing, criticize both of those media and consider both of those biases in a critical way and its just *fine*, it's not as if there is a limited amount of critical engagement to go around. People are free to dislike individual elements and are completely free take interest in which aspects they want to take interest in. I don't think you understand how bias works either, you can criticize something and still be biased towards that thing. To use an example you might understand better because of your own biases, if someone were to say "Nazis were bad but i think we should refocus our historical interpretations on the peaceful nazis", you'd think they had a pretty significant bias.

[QUOTE=Mattk50;52747119]some media like vox are biased toward them, media like fox will, of course, be biased against them. it's probably fine to point out, investigate, and elaborate on both instances of this happening.[/QUOTE] I don't like how you equivocate Vox's seemingly accurate portrayal of Antifa violence being overreported and prioritized over peaceful demonstrations, and Fox News doing the poor reporting. You say it's fine to point out, investigate, and elaborate on these instances but what neutral, least-biased arbiter should be in charge of that?

Congrats on outing yourself as being easily swayed by alt right idiots like Crowder. He's transphobic and supports white supremacists. Cheak his twitter for one second before posting his crap. This is as awful of a source as it gets to get any info about the real world.