• The Young Turks & the Self-Burned Church | the Void of Self-Awareness
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[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYbPCakG9nc[/media]
This channel is very interesting. I'd recommend going through his backlog because i'm honestly torn on how I feel.
Haha, wow. I knew the The Young Turks were bad but I didn't know they were this shit.
I hate hypocrites
Seemed like they went down the trench of bullshit around the time of gamergate, I saw a massive drop in quality of reporting around that time.
[QUOTE=MadPro119;51596369]Haha, wow. I knew the The Young Turks were bad but I didn't know they were this shit.[/QUOTE] Yah, it is pretty pathetic in alot of cases. Cenk is obviously learned, but he has this short fuse/pride that keeps pulling him back. The others on the show then basically being ringleadered/echo chambered by confirmation bias since they rarely (practically never) invite opposition to the show. I still love watching their livestream for certain events tho and occasionally posting a video on here.
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51597340]Oh I was in agreement until he digressed and said the mainstream media doesnt discuss Islamic terrorism enough. No matter how his previous points were, that one ruined the video for me. He went from objective to subjectve there.[/QUOTE] But he backed it up with clips of the MSM?
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51597368]I switched the video off after Obama, if you are talking about the clips before, you can see that they are, in fact, covering the attack. What bothers him is that they do not blame Islam for the attacks. There are always extra motives in these attacks etc... -- The point is, there is a debate to be had there, so it is not an objective matter, so the media isnt objectively wrog to say that "motives are unclear" etc. That there isnt objective, it is subjective.[/QUOTE] The pulse shooter made a call to 9/11 and stated he was committing his life to ISIS. The ohio terrorist posted this on social media before the attack [url]https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/803417243547799552/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw[/url] How are those unclear motives?
It's two examples, and that doesn't mean there weren't additional motives, they were just the publicly announced ones. Maybe you'd [url=http://dougsaunders.net/2013/04/muslim-immigrants-terrorists-jihad-terrorism/]care to read this.[/url] Or not.
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51597368]I switched the video off after Obama, if you are talking about the clips before, you can see that they are, in fact, covering the attack. What bothers him is that they do not blame Islam for the attacks. There are always extra motives in these attacks etc... -- The point is, there is a debate to be had there, so it is not an objective matter, so the media isnt objectively wrog to say that "motives are unclear" etc. That there isnt objective, it is subjective.[/QUOTE] ah yes, because the killer going "i want to kill infidels for allah" is so subjective. [editline]29th December 2016[/editline] While it's true that many are not driven to terrorist groups because of an initial belief in religion, but rather other factors (for example, I remember reading that many in Iraq joined militant groups because they had better food than they had, as one example) - but by the point they're actually committing attacks they're using the religion and politics as their excuse. Which does mean if we worked on actually fixing the problems that cause such groups to spring up, such as poverty, you would see them start to disappear. However, [I]that does not mean that we should take why they say they're committing attacks lightly[/I]. It's a very multi-faceted issue, where global politics, poverty, imperialism, and religion all collide and there are no easy answers. And tbh this goes for any belief - whether its Christianity, a political ideology, just anything. I know a handful of people who are Muslim, and they're perfectly fine people who don't use their religion and beliefs as an excuse to oppress or harm others - just as I know Christians who don't use their religion and beliefs to oppress or harm others. On the same token, there are members of both faiths (and other ideologies) who DO use their beliefs to oppress and harm (for example, Christians who are homophobic), and to ignore that some use those beliefs for evil is dishonest. It is however, important to recognize that a [I]minority[/I] are using that belief for evil, and to make sure that those individuals [I]do not[/I] reflect on those who are normal people who just so happen to share a belief system.
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