• FLCL - Journey To Maturity [kaptainkristian]
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[hd]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foulx-DTsrc[/hd]
Totally forgot, they are making a season 2 aren't they?
[quote] sequel [/quote] When they have no need to, FLCL was a complete product of someone finally realizing that life isn't going be anything like the little serially arranged boxes say it will. By continuing that it's pretty much treading into "my nostalgia/coming of age/realization of a greater world was so unique and amazing it needs a sequel" which is pretty much squarely into kanye west delusion of grandeur territory. Good things about transitions have clean endings and no need to re-explore any questions, especially if they have more than one answer.
[QUOTE=27X;50652241]When they have no need to[/QUOTE] then just don't watch it There is literally nothing it can do that will negate the existence of the first season if you don't want it to. If it was a prequel there would be trouble, but there's no indication of this so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ This is coming from someone who only just bothered to watch FLCL like two months back. I'm not going to let a sequel ruin something that I genuinely enjoyed. I might check it out, but if it is trash then whatever, the original is still there and still perfectly fine.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;50652418]I might check it out, but if it is trash then whatever, the original is still there and still perfectly fine.[/QUOTE] I mean yeah, that's one way of thinking about it, but then one just has to pray it doesn't become an Eureka Seven Ao, which basically shit over the original series too.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;50652418]then just don't watch it There is literally nothing it can do that will negate the existence of the first season if you don't want it to. If it was a prequel there would be trouble, but there's no indication of this so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ This is coming from someone who only just bothered to watch FLCL like two months back. I'm not going to let a sequel ruin something that I genuinely enjoyed. I might check it out, but if it is trash then whatever, the original is still there and still perfectly fine.[/QUOTE] I disagree with this argument, because for one if a sequel is bad or goes against the original then it taints the enjoyment of the first one. You feel cheated when it's shit.
Loved FLCL. With that said, I don't feel this show needed a S2 and S3, but I will watch it regardless. I am just not getting my hopes up.
[QUOTE=doomevil;50652987]I disagree with this argument, because for one if a sequel is bad or goes against the original then it taints the enjoyment of the first one. You feel cheated when it's shit.[/QUOTE] Okay but why? Unless they start trying to retroactively change the existing season(s), those still exist and if you enjoyed them enough it should be entirely possible to enjoy them in a vacuum. I still thoroughly enjoy Heroes season 1 despite the majority of the show being utter garbage in comparison. It might have changed the characters in the later seasons (and in some cases tried to insert prequel explanations for shit), but that season is still thoroughly enjoyable. A lot of things have fucking awful sequels either because a different writer who didn't know how to handle the material fucked it up, or fan pressure caused an unneeded sequel, or studio meddeling just meddled it up, etc. Some things even have fucking awful prequels, but people don't let them detract from the original if they can avoid it because they really fuckin liked that original thing. The Best Friends Zaibatsu discussed it, but if Gurren Laggan had a sequel, would it ruin the original? I don't think it would, because if it was trash the fans would just distance the sequel from a damn-near 11/10 Japanese motion drawing.
I'll bring up one of my favorite series Mass Effect. Mass Effect 1 was details first drama second kind of thing. The story was great, it had established a set of rules in the universe and gave a lot of world building. Then Mass Effect 3's ending butchers every little thing in the universe and goes against everything the original stands for. But hey at least we got Mass Effect 1 to get some enjoyment out of! At least that's a decent game! No, because no matter what happens, no matter what you do. Mass Effect 3 changes everything. In terms of theme and rules. This is what I'm saying. Sometimes a sequel can taint the original's existence.
[QUOTE=doomevil;50653186]I'll bring up one of my favorite series Mass Effect. Mass Effect 1 was details first drama second kind of thing. The story was great, it had established a set of rules in the universe and gave a lot of world building. Then Mass Effect 3's ending butchers every little thing in the universe and goes against everything the original stands for. But hey at least we got Mass Effect 1 to get some enjoyment out of! At least that's a decent game! No, because no matter what happens, no matter what you do. Mass Effect 3 changes everything. In terms of theme and rules. This is what I'm saying. Sometimes a sequel can taint the original's existence.[/QUOTE] Mass effect 3 doesn't exist, the series ended at ME2
[QUOTE=doomevil;50653186]I'll bring up one of my favorite series Mass Effect. Mass Effect 1 was details first drama second kind of thing. The story was great, it had established a set of rules in the universe and gave a lot of world building. Then Mass Effect 3's ending butchers every little thing in the universe and goes against everything the original stands for. But hey at least we got Mass Effect 1 to get some enjoyment out of! At least that's a decent game! No, because no matter what happens, no matter what you do. Mass Effect 3 changes everything. In terms of theme and rules. This is what I'm saying. Sometimes a sequel can negate the original's existence.[/QUOTE] I suppose this is one problem with a series of sequels being built to directly follow off of each other. Building up into each other. There's a possibility the end might make the story not make any sense whatsoever. This doesn't apply to every series ever however. FLCL is pretty self-contained, they can try and answer questions about the characters. But that's a waste of time, and if they try you can just ignore it because the series never really built up in that direction. I still wouldn't say ME3 totally negates ME/ME2, it leaves a bitter taste in your mouth as the story technically cannot finish without the awful that is the ME3 story. But a story isn't just the overarching plot, which is why I brought up Heroes, a show built to try and explain itself over n seasons. The little bits of story arc for each character are still pretty solid and I don't feel the sub-stories are massively detracted from despite the fact the writers (and lack thereof) fucked it up hard later on. [sp]I'd still be interested to see what Bioware actually had as an ending for ME3, the whole final part reeks of last minute rewrite[/sp]
I'm going to give it the benefit of the doubt. A 2nd season might be cool, who knows.
[QUOTE=doomevil;50653229]I'm going to give it the benefit of the doubt. A 2nd season might be cool, who knows.[/QUOTE] I'm going to watch it, but going in with a cautious attitude. I mean Pyshco Pass 2 was dogshit, but at the same time never ruined my original joy of S1.
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;50653214]Mass effect 3 doesn't exist, the series ended at ME2[/QUOTE] Me2 was what fucked it up to begin with. ME2 pretty much unwrites everything about ME but the returning characters' personalities.
I remember trying to stay up late to watch this as a kid, but I almost always fell asleep before it came on.
All we really know about FLCL sequels is that a lot of the same people are working on them. I don't see the need to be up in arms at this point. If we find out that Naota is playing a large role then I'd be very worried, but at this point his story is over but a whole world that was built in the original is left unexplored. There is plenty that can be done.
[QUOTE=doomevil;50652987]I disagree with this argument, because for one if a sequel is bad or goes against the original then it taints the enjoyment of the first one. You feel cheated when it's shit.[/QUOTE] And there's nothing preventing them from making FLCL Brazil or FLCL India or FLCL [place]. There's literally an entire world to explore any topical bent you could want without touching the original when you have no reason to.
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;50653234]I'm going to watch it, but going in with a cautious attitude. I mean Pyshco Pass 2 was dogshit, but at the same time never ruined my original joy of S1.[/QUOTE] I get what you mean, theres a sense of satisfaction when it ended. Gunna watch with caution as well
[QUOTE=Goldb207;50653360]I get what you mean, theres a sense of satisfaction when it ended. Gunna watch with caution as well[/QUOTE] Yeah I don't think the series really NEEDS another season, but what happens happens and won't ruin my enjoyment of the original series. Either way I feel confident that with as much of the original staff still working on it, the series will most likely be good.
Video is spot on. God I remember when it premiered on adult swim. I was 13 years old and felt connected to it so deeply. I regard it to this day as one of the best anime's I've ever watched. I've most of watched the entire series at least 4-5 times since them.
Dude never misses a beat, spot on as always.
This video inspired me to watch through FLCL and I have to say that it was truly exceptional in every way. It was like taking a step back in time to when I was a junior in high school.
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