• Primitive Technology - Bow and Arrow
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[video=youtube;SLoukoBs8TE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLoukoBs8TE[/video] He even made a quiver.
-nevermind-
Back in sub school, this really fat guy who had dropped from the nuclear pipeline would tell us stories in class about how he would go into the woods, build a bow in the morning, hunt deer during the day, and just leave the bow somewhere because he could just build another one the next time he went. Also said he got two deer with one arrow using a one-day build bow. So yeah, pretty sure the primitive tech dude got some pointers from the dude in my class.
He's started making eye contact.
something about how he just filmed that bird from far away then cut to him holding feathers made me feel like i was watching a snuff film :v:
Every single one of this guy's video is fucking great. Is there any videogame where i can go out and live like this guy
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[QUOTE=The Rifleman;49993896]Every single one of this guy's video is fucking great. Is there any videogame where i can go out and live like this guy[/QUOTE] you can play rust :^)
man i expected the bow to just snap after 2-3 shots but that thing has some crazy durability
[QUOTE=The Rifleman;49993896]Every single one of this guy's video is fucking great. Is there any videogame where i can go out and live like this guy[/QUOTE] yeah it's called Real Life
I'm actually surprised his archery technique isn't better, but that said he probably shoots better with that selfbow than I do with my recurve lmao. Fuckin' crazy. [QUOTE=Xephio;49993976]man i expected the bow to just snap after 2-3 shots but that thing has some crazy durability[/QUOTE] Says in the description it's the same wood he uses for axe handles, so it must be pretty tough stuff.
i have to say that I really enjoy that this guy doesn't talk. it gives his videos a very unique feel; a quiet video amongst a sea of massive brash idiots and wacky fools making tons of exaggerated noises, both auditory and visual in nature. his videos are simple through and through, in a way that nearly mirrors what it must've been like to live in such a simpler time. its neat, both in the "cool" way and in the "clean" way. it feels very elemental and simplistic in a refreshing way. no fluffy shit.
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;49994053]i have to say that I really enjoy that this guy doesn't talk. it gives his videos a very unique feel; a quiet video amongst a sea of massive brash idiots and wacky fools making tons of exaggerated noises, both auditory and visual in nature. his videos are simple through and through, in a way that nearly mirrors what it must've been like to live in such a simpler time. its neat, both in the "cool" way and in the "clean" way. it feels very elemental and simplistic in a refreshing way. no fluffy shit.[/QUOTE] It's like an extremely, extreeeeemely English documentary directed by Spike Jonze
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;49994053]i have to say that I really enjoy that this guy doesn't talk. it gives his videos a very unique feel; a quiet video amongst a sea of massive brash idiots and wacky fools making tons of exaggerated noises, both auditory and visual in nature. his videos are simple through and through, in a way that nearly mirrors what it must've been like to live in such a simpler time. its neat, both in the "cool" way and in the "clean" way. it feels very elemental and simplistic in a refreshing way. no fluffy shit.[/QUOTE] Good for international/deaf people, too. The language of creation is universal.
You could get David Attenborough doing the voice over for this guy's stuff and it'd be perfect. :D
[QUOTE=The Rifleman;49993896]Every single one of this guy's video is fucking great. Is there any videogame where i can go out and live like this guy[/QUOTE] I'm still playing life, it's pretty fun but has it's challenges. I wouldn't advise going out into the woods to make a bow because there are dangerous npc out there
I've made a (shitty) bow before but that bowstring was really impressive. His form is weird though, I was always taught to stand perpendicular with back straight and to bring my right hand near the mouth. I guess he's worried about wrist slap which hurts like fuck but I'm sure this guy could make a bracer.
[QUOTE=Viper_;49995161]I've made a (shitty) bow before but that bowstring was really impressive. His form is weird though, I was always taught to stand perpendicular with back straight and to bring my right hand near the mouth. I guess he's worried about wrist slap which hurts like fuck but I'm sure this guy could make a bracer.[/QUOTE] He actually made the string pretty long which would make string slaps much more likely (cause the distance between the string and the grip of the bow is shorter), so I imagine that was indeed part of the reason for his form being like that. Standing up perfectly straight is pretty much a formality for olympic style shooting though - traditional shooters typically cant the bow to the side a bit and lean their back in the same direction so they have a better view of the target without the bow in the way.
[QUOTE=Maloof?;49994148]It's like an extremely, extreeeeemely English documentary directed by Spike Jonze[/QUOTE] Spike Jonze is American though.
What is the purpose of burning the arrow tips?
Animal products are weirdly absent from his stuff. You have the feathers, but my understanding of primitive bow making was that sinew tended to be the preferred cordage. Sinew served as an extremely tough bow string, an effective means of bow reinforcement, and was the best means of securing the fletching to the shaft because it shrinks when it dries. It is weird to see him just stick with plant matter, given the complexity of some of his builds. On the flip side, I had no idea you could manage an even remotely viable bow with such simple ingredients. Impressive as hell. [editline]23rd March 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Garrot;49995448]What is the purpose of burning the arrow tips?[/QUOTE] [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_hardening[/url]
[QUOTE=GunFox;49995450]Animal products are weirdly absent from his stuff. You have the feathers, but my understanding of primitive bow making was that sinew tended to be the preferred cordage. Sinew served as an extremely tough bow string, an effective means of bow reinforcement, and was the best means of securing the fletching to the shaft because it shrinks when it dries. It is weird to see him just stick with plant matter, given the complexity of some of his builds. On the flip side, I had no idea you could manage an even remotely viable bow with such simple ingredients. Impressive as hell. [editline]23rd March 2016[/editline] [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_hardening[/url][/QUOTE] He can't legally hunt in his part of Australia.
[QUOTE=GunFox;49995450]Animal products are weirdly absent from his stuff. You have the feathers, but my understanding of primitive bow making was that sinew tended to be the preferred cordage. Sinew served as an extremely tough bow string, an effective means of bow reinforcement, and was the best means of securing the fletching to the shaft because it shrinks when it dries. It is weird to see him just stick with plant matter, given the complexity of some of his builds. On the flip side, I had no idea you could manage an even remotely viable bow with such simple ingredients. Impressive as hell. [editline]23rd March 2016[/editline] [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_hardening[/url][/QUOTE] since his builds require him to be completely self-sufficient, he would have to hunt a fairly reasonably-sized animal to acquire good long quality sinew. plus, people on youtube would hate that. plant matter, on the other hand, requires no risk to harvest and is much more readily available, and won't get him crucified.
For some reason I remember something about that being closer to the actual stance hunters used to have to use with short-bows like that.
[QUOTE=Ott;49995542]He can't legally hunt in his part of Australia.[/QUOTE] uh, we aren't that draconian. you can hunt pretty much anything that isn't native, especially on private land
Just for information, he said that his string broke 3 times while doing 300 shots.
Every single time i've worked with a wood bow it has shattered. I'd be terrified letting anyone use it, let alone shooting with it myself.
[QUOTE=azure 505;49995250]He actually made the string pretty long which would make string slaps much more likely (cause the distance between the string and the grip of the bow is shorter), so I imagine that was indeed part of the reason for his form being like that. Standing up perfectly straight is pretty much a formality for olympic style shooting though - traditional shooters typically cant the bow to the side a bit and lean their back in the same direction so they have a better view of the target without the bow in the way.[/QUOTE] Actually there's evidence that traditional shooters aren't even supposed to do that, they should be shooting with the arrow actually on the right side, not on the left. This isn't even to mention the fact that quivers as they are now weren't even a thing until recently.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;49995933]Actually there's evidence that traditional shooters aren't even supposed to do that, they should be shooting with the arrow actually on the right side, not on the left. This isn't even to mention the fact that quivers as they are now weren't even a thing until recently.[/QUOTE] Gonna set aside the face that I didn't even mention which side of the bow he nocked the arrow on, cause all I was talking about is canting (tilting) the bow when shooting. :v: If you're talking about some of the shit Lars Anderson said he's not very credible. Shooting with the arrow on the right side of the bow as a right handed shooter reverses the archer's paradox and thus changes the flight of the arrow and is only particularly effective when you're using a thumb draw, as opposed to shooting three under or split finger. Lars Anderson does it because he's a trick shooter, not a hunter. The quiver thing is relatively correct as far as back quivers go but there are historical cases of back quivers being used on horseback because they're out of the way as opposed to a hip quiver. Hip quivers were absolutely the thing to use in the field though.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;49995933]Actually there's evidence that traditional shooters aren't even supposed to do that, they should be shooting with the arrow actually on the right side, not on the left. This isn't even to mention the fact that quivers as they are now weren't even a thing until recently.[/QUOTE] The historical evidence shows people shooting from both the left and right side of the bow. There are physical reasons why you would want the arrow on one side or the other depending on the type of release you're using. A modern three finger draw works better with the arrow on the inside of the bow and a thumb type draw works better with the arrow on the outside of the bow.
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