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[vid]https://helifreak.duckdns.org/Afghanistan veteran debuts double arm transplant-rEsfWiTembQ.mp4[/vid]
Something very unnatural strikes you when get to the part where the blood starts returning to the dead limb. You can actually see it happening. Very, very strange stuff.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;51158603]i didn't even know this stuff was possible[/QUOTE]
you should see the video of the robotic ankle and foot given to a dancer victim of the boston bombings
[editline]5th October 2016[/editline]
[url]https://www.ted.com/talks/hugh_herr_the_new_bionics_that_let_us_run_climb_and_dance?language=en[/url]
the whole video is fantastic, but also note the ending
I wonder if we may eventually skip cybernetics and go straight to advanced transplant science.
Man the future is now.
[editline]5th October 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=ElectricSquid;51158712]I wonder if we may eventually skip cybernetics and go straight to advanced transplant science.[/QUOTE]
Eh i want cyborg implants.
[QUOTE=ElectricSquid;51158712]I wonder if we may eventually skip cybernetics and go straight to advanced transplant science.[/QUOTE]
There may even come a day where a donor isn't even needed and the hospital can just print you a new limb.
[video=youtube;jvzu9MXC7e0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvzu9MXC7e0[/video]
Cyborg uprising averted.
3D Printed organs will probably become the standard procedure in 20 years. Right now its still mostly R&D and there's a lot of regulations and safety testing the technology has to go through before it becomes standard practice.
Transplants are common practice (when available), but you can probably imagine the skepticism when someone first said "hey we can attach someone else's arm we cut off onto your stump and you can use it". Same deal for 3D printed tissues & organs. It sounds too good to be true and creepy to an extent, which is why the FDA has to be certain it can work before it is put in practice.
Huh, I didn't know the body would need to grow nerves again down to the arms. I thought it would be attaching the actual nerves to the existing nerves.
[QUOTE=ElectricSquid;51158712]I wonder if we may eventually skip cybernetics and go straight to advanced transplant science.[/QUOTE]
Well the vet does mention there is still a risk of rejection, which is not a problem with artificial limbs which are fitted directly on the stump.
I guess it will be a bit more complicated when they will start connecting robotic limbs to nerve endings, but even then I believe certain materials are non-invasive.
i remember seeing this news about another guy who had arms implants too and the guy said it cause a lot of pain for him and he wished it to be removed
hope this guy won't have the same problems
[QUOTE=Mr.Brown;51160383]i remember seeing this news about another guy who had arms implants too and the guy said it cause a lot of pain for him and he wished it to be removed
hope this guy won't have the same problems[/QUOTE]
He seems to be aware that there's going to be pain with the nerve growth. I think if I was in that position I'd be more worried about the possibility of rejection than pain in my new arms.
Wait, who's arms were those?
It used to take 100-500-1000 years for use to achieve great scientific achievements. Now it takes less than 10. Imagine the possibilities all of us will witness. We may not live in a futuristic science-fiction, but we sure are on the brink of it. I am very optimistic for just next year.
[QUOTE=ThePanther;51160949]Wait, who's arms were those?[/QUOTE]
The arms of a serial killer that practiced Voodoo and cursed his arms after he died!
Either that or some poor schlub who died and someone decided to use his arms for a new transplant.
"nerves to regrow which can be very painfull". Can confirm, Im having a nerve currently growing back after a major trauma and it hurts like fuck. Almost constant pain but it stops after 2-3 months and goes to normal sense.
So that is outstanding that medical tech has progressed to where this is a thing that happens.
I mean, I would have said doing that was not possible yet unless I saw it myself.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;51161084]The arms of a serial killer that practiced Voodoo and cursed his arms after he died!
[B]Either that or some poor schlub who died and someone decided to use his arms for a new transplant.[/B][/QUOTE]
... Well, I mean, yeah, that's kind of what we do with people who are on the donor register. When they die, their bodies are used for transplants.
Wonder if he'll experience phantom pains even if his body accepts the new arms.
Jesus Christ, the guy lost so much and now is still on the road to recovery with his new arms.
Massive respect.
[QUOTE=ThePanther;51160949]Wait, who's arms were those?[/QUOTE]
The video said its a guy who was pronounced brain dead 36 hours before they began the operation.
[QUOTE=ElectricSquid;51158712]I wonder if we may eventually skip cybernetics and go straight to advanced transplant science.[/QUOTE]
I'm reasonably certain we'll see organic cloned or 3d printed limbs before we see useful cybernetics.
[QUOTE=download;51164740]I'm reasonably certain we'll see organic cloned or 3d printed limbs before we see useful cybernetics.[/QUOTE]
Useful cybernetics already exist, just look at the Ted talk someone posted earlier.
[QUOTE=Sims_doc;51159162]Huh, I didn't know the body would need to grow nerves again down to the arms. I thought it would be attaching the actual nerves to the existing nerves.[/QUOTE]
im no medical professional but imma safely assume that when you have a transplant, your existing nerves need to get used to the new nerves. It isn't as simple as connecting nerves together by the sounds of it
The problem is not the nerves or his motor sense working again, its the rejection. Every transplanted limb, big or small is always rejected by the receiving body in every case. In order to not let the immune system go through with the rejection, they prescribe immunosuppressant drugs so the immune system is simply too weak to do what it intends with the transplants. Of course they have pretty heavy side effects, basically crippling your immune system for life, but its either that or transplant rejection.
So its not a perfect deal. You get transplants but you have to sacrifice other aspects of your health in turn.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;51165108]im no medical professional but imma safely assume that when you have a transplant, your existing nerves need to get used to the new nerves. It isn't as simple as connecting nerves together by the sounds of it[/QUOTE]
There are no currently existing nerves in his new arms, they all died of lack of oxygen long ago. Mine died in my right leg in 10 hours after I had an accident and the nerve was still intact but they all died due to lack of oxygen so his body will grow out brand new nerves eventually to his arms. Our bodies are just amazing in that way
Even more amazing since he's a quadruple amputee. He can finally start to live a little more normal now.
[QUOTE=H4ngman;51165252]The problem is not the nerves or his motor sense working again, its the rejection. Every transplanted limb, big or small is always rejected by the receiving body in every case. In order to not let the immune system go through with the rejection, they prescribe immunosuppressant drugs so the immune system is simply too weak to do what it intends with the transplants. Of course they have pretty heavy side effects, basically crippling your immune system for life, but its either that or transplant rejection.
So its not a perfect deal. You get transplants but you have to sacrifice other aspects of your health in turn.[/QUOTE]
i know it's a bit dumb to trivialize such a terrible problem with media, but it's surprising how well Deus Ex got it right, down to the rejection and the whole neuropozine thing.
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