Reminds me of that cool ass Engineer shotgun in Team Fortress 2. Frontier Justice I think it was called?
[QUOTE=Lord of Boxes;53086805]Reminds me of that cool ass Engineer shotgun in Team Fortress 2. Frontier Justice I think it was called?[/QUOTE]
Yep,
[t]https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/9/9e/Red_Frontier_Justice.png[/t]
Coincidentally, in game it holds a similar amount of shells as the AR-17, three compared to the AR-17's two.
edit: fixed wrong image link, was linking to the wiki page on the picture
One word. Aloominum.
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the aluminum barrel is neat, just goes to show how easy it is to make a reliable shotgun
[QUOTE=butre;53088670]the aluminum barrel is neat, just goes to show how easy it is to make a reliable shotgun[/QUOTE]
Honestly this is a pretty impressive weapon from a tooling and machining standpoint. For aluminum parts you don't have to go all tool steel grade of hardness with your cutting/milling bits. That makes repair and manufacture of these weapons significantly cheaper than if you went with their steel counterparts.
Why doesn't it have a magazine tube or a detachable box magazine? Did they not figure out how to make it work with the rotating bolt, or was it some sort of weight saving thing?
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;53089190]Why doesn't it have a magazine tube or a detachable box magazine? Did they not figure out how to make it work with the rotating bolt, or was it some sort of weight saving thing?[/QUOTE]
its not a combat shotgun. for sport shooting you're typically only allowed 2 rounds anyway
[QUOTE=LoneWolf_Recon;53089166]Honestly this is a pretty impressive weapon from a tooling and machining standpoint. For aluminum parts you don't have to go all tool steel grade of hardness with your cutting/milling bits. That makes repair and manufacture of these weapons significantly cheaper than if you went with their steel counterparts.[/QUOTE]
i imagine that the barrels would wear out far faster than steel though. Aluminium is crazy soft compared to steel.
Though it wouldn't be too hard to make a steel bushing for the inside, especially since no way could you fire that thing fast enough to make the diffferent expansion rates a problem.
And here I was knowing nothing about this shotgun existing and when I saw the title of the thread I thought it was going to be an AR platform shotgun that wasn't terrible, instead it is a really nice looking pump action shotgun.
[QUOTE=NeverGoWest;53089906]And here I was knowing nothing about this shotgun existing and when I saw the title of the thread I thought it was going to be an AR platform shotgun that wasn't terrible, instead it is a really nice looking pump action shotgun.[/QUOTE]
It's not pump, it's an overly-complicated two-round semi-auto.
[QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;53089818]i imagine that the barrels would wear out far faster than steel though. Aluminium is crazy soft compared to steel.
Though it wouldn't be too hard to make a steel bushing for the inside, especially since no way could you fire that thing fast enough to make the diffferent expansion rates a problem.[/QUOTE]
Shotguns operate at very low pressure (about 12kpsi compared to 45ACP at 24 kpsi, 9mm at about 34kpsi, 5.56mm Nato at about 55 kpsi) and the the wadding made of plastic is not very abrasive. Both contribute to very long barrel lives.
That embellishment on the receiver combined with that shiny plastic furniture makes me think of a nerf gun.
[QUOTE=download;53090332]Shotguns operate at very low pressure (about 12kpsi compared to 45ACP at 24 kpsi, 9mm at about 34kpsi, 5.56mm Nato at about 55 kpsi) and the the wadding made of plastic is not very abrasive. Both contribute to very long barrel lives.[/QUOTE]
for sure, but i'm thinking about the actual shot in particular. Especially if it has a tighter choke.
[QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;53090778]for sure, but i'm thinking about the actual shot in particular. Especially if it has a tighter choke.[/QUOTE]
The shot never touches the barrel.
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That's what the wadding is for.
[QUOTE=download;53090824]The shot never touches the barrel.
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That's what the wadding is for.[/QUOTE]
older shells didn't have the plastic wadding, they just had a cardboard plug between the powder and the shot
[QUOTE=butre;53091111]older shells didn't have the plastic wadding, they just had a cardboard plug between the powder and the shot[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but they were common-place by the 60s when this gun was developed.
[QUOTE=download;53091131]Yeah, but they were common-place by the 60s when this gun was developed.[/QUOTE]
they were around, but not the usual, and and it's not uncommon for a trap shooter to get a couple thousand shells together and pick some out of his bucket for a for a weekend, so its pretty much a guarantee that most of these spent a lot of time shooting older ammo.
not that it matters much, lead is softer than aluminum
[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;53090170]It's not pump, it's an overly-complicated two-round semi-auto.[/QUOTE]
Whoops I was tired so I missed that detail.
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