people get too offended at jokes these days
i laugh at racial asian jokes directed at me all the time, sometimes stereotypes are relatable, yet i can seperate fiction from reality, and at the end of the day nothing changes between me and that person, because you're not supposed to take the joke seriously, that's the whole point of it being a joke.
jokes don't marginalize people, portrayals in serious media does. Portrayals in things we find heroes in, idols too, because shit like that can fuck you up, and it affects our entire lives. I've wanted to be a tall handsome white man once. But only because heroes are tall, white and handsome, but never because a joke made me feel bad about myself. Even white people want to be tall, and handsome, because captain america is.
sometimes it feels like the only shit you can laugh at is random humor these days, and most of the time it's not even funny. "he made a funny voice *claps rapidly*" yet i can tell from that persons face, that even they don't find it funny.
I actually think he got to the guy in the background, the dude with the beard. He chuckles and is clearly trying not to laugh at some of this but when he starts actually explaining it you see it 'clicking' on his face.
"The religious believe they have a monopoly of the truth" pretty good summary I guess when it comes to religious people taking offence in trivial things
This is Dutch comedian Hans Teeuwen, if anybody's wondering. His style of humor is generally being offensive and insane from what I've seen, though I don't really watch his stuff much. I think he's a bit of a dick, but obviously he's right here.
imagine if you took all the political and social commentary out of something like star wars b/c people were too sensitive to it
entertainment has long been a form of criticizing society and it's ironic that they brought this guy on the show to criticize his comedy, then they try to save face by making le funny quip about how his on-the-head observations are "one-liners"
[QUOTE=LZTYBRN;52111996]then they try to save face by making le funny quip about how his on-the-head observations are "one-liners"[/QUOTE]
i like how even the subtitles cringed at that
[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;52102967]people get too offended at jokes these days
i laugh at racial asian jokes directed at me all the time, sometimes stereotypes are relatable, yet i can seperate fiction from reality, and at the end of the day nothing changes between me and that person, because you're not supposed to take the joke seriously, that's the whole point of it being a joke.
jokes don't marginalize people, portrayals in serious media does. Portrayals in things we find heroes in, idols too, because shit like that can fuck you up, and it affects our entire lives. I've wanted to be a tall handsome white man once. But only because heroes are tall, white and handsome, but never because a joke made me feel bad about myself. Even white people want to be tall, and handsome, because captain america is.
sometimes it feels like the only shit you can laugh at is random humor these days, and most of the time it's not even funny. "he made a funny voice *claps rapidly*" yet i can tell from that persons face, that even they don't find it funny.[/QUOTE]
I agree with the vast majority of what you said here, but I think it's not the entire debate or issue at question here. Some words do have power, but trying to forcibly stop their usage isn't going to do anything because assholes are still gonna use their word. I'm only thinking of my experiences and feelings around "faggot" though.
Sometimes part of the problem is going for the easy target of trying to stop offensive or mean jokes/words, but missing the harder and much more vital thing that underlies the issue. Like the cultural representation you mentioned. I even see it on FP, but people getting upset that some actor/athlete/famous person coming out is considered newsworthy is silly, because showing people that "hey gay people are normal people who just happened to be gay" is an important part of culturally normalizing something like that
Regardless, the video showed a rather bemusing instance of plans backfiring, along with how shaky the grounds for going after offensive things can be lol
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Maybe I shouldn't talk, a bunch of drunk dudes at my old job at a ballpark called me "Pre-Captain America" :v:
I do like at the end how even though their opinions were polar opposites and clearly no agreements were made, both sides still walked away respectful and somewhat amicable at the end (that's how it looked to me anyway).
That's one thing you rarely see anymore. Civil discussion that doesn't boil down into mudslinging, petty namecalling and overall ugliness.
[QUOTE=J.Barnes;52112459]I do like at the end how even though their opinions were polar opposites and clearly no agreements were made, both sides still walked away respectful and somewhat amicable at the end (that's how it looked to me anyway).
That's one thing you rarely see anymore. Civil discussion that doesn't boil down into mudslinging, petty namecalling and overall ugliness.[/QUOTE]
I don't know what the show is like usually, but it looked to me like the women that were questioning him suppressed smiles quite a bit and in general may not have held the opinions that they were presenting.
well in true theocracy state there would be nothing like this TVcomedy show to laugh over
only cold blood TV news about another execution of unfaithful ...
those who can't understand i suggest to live some years in dictatorship first
so the question is if such 'shows' are road to prepare the majority on the 'flip of power' or actually helpful against it ...
[QUOTE=Dwarden;52113940]well in true theocracy state there would be nothing like this TVcomedy show to laugh over
only cold blood TV news about another execution of unfaithful ...
those who can't understand i suggest to live some years in dictatorship first
so the question is if such 'shows' are road to prepare the majority on the 'flip of power' or actually helpful against it ...[/QUOTE]
As the birthrates of the natural citizen in europe are decreasing, and the immigration and birthrate of foreigners is increasing, there is more money made to pander to the new population.
Let's see what europe will look like in a few decades.
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