Dangers of Using Electronics in Bathroom, the Case of the Teenage Girl (ElectroBoom)

[knimren]

[video=youtube;6Dd6_TghcE0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dd6_TghcE0[/video]

A good tip at 2:50 if you accidentally drop your phone into water.

[Ganerumo]

That girl was kind of a huge dumbass.

[highlight](User was banned for this post ("Another terrible post - Stop taking pages from wickedplayer's book of victim blaming" - Reagy))[/highlight]

[Jeff the Hobo]

5:50 Jesus Christ.

I had heard of American plugs that did that, but assumed it was some level of exaggeration.
Are all American plugs like that? or did he just get a particularly bad one?

[Loopoo]

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;52488443]That girl was kind of a huge dumbass.[/QUOTE]

She was 14, and it wasn't her fault that they had a shitty extension cable that was frayed and exposed. Was just hugely unlucky. Could have happened even if she wasn't in the bath and grabbed it at the wrong place.

Either way, a child dies and your first response is calling them a dumbass?

[Jeff the Hobo]

[QUOTE=loopoo;52488485]She was 14, and it wasn't her fault that they had a shitty extension cable that was frayed and exposed. Was just hugely unlucky. Could have happened even if she wasn't in the bath and grabbed it at the wrong place.

Either way, a child dies and your first response is calling them a dumbass?[/QUOTE]

I've learned to become absolutely numbed to victim blaming ever since WickedPlayer killed the universe.

[daigennki]

[QUOTE=ReligiousNutjob;52488459]5:50 Jesus Christ.

I had heard of American plugs that did that, but assumed it was some level of exaggeration.
Are all American plugs like that? or did he just get a particularly bad one?[/QUOTE]

It is no exaggeration, and unfortunately Japan uses basically the same exact kind. Our own take on this issue, although more for preventing dust from causing shorts and only found on newer devices, is this which is similar to what ElectroBOOM proposed, some amount of insulation between the blades and the plug casing:
[t]https://images-fe.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61QSzJlCSiL._SY450_.jpg[/t]
But unfortunately some of it is still exposed while live if not plugged in all the way.

[Loopoo]

[QUOTE=ReligiousNutjob;52488494]I've learned to become absolutely numbed to victim blaming ever since WickedPlayer caused the imminent death of all life in the universe.[/QUOTE]

I don't get this reference.

[QUOTE=daigennki;52488534]It is no exaggeration, and unfortunately Japan uses basically the same exact kind. Our own take on this issue, although more for preventing dust from causing shorts and only found on newer devices, is this which is similar to what ElectroBOOM proposed, some amount of insulation between the blades and the plug casing:
[t]https://images-fe.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61QSzJlCSiL._SY450_.jpg[/t]
But unfortunately some of it is still exposed while live if not plugged in all the way.[/QUOTE]

My time in America taught me one thing about Americans: they're fucking insane. Handling plugs was a constant teetering on the edge of being electrocuted. Never figured I'd have so much thrillseeking fulfilled just by plugging shit in and out whilst trying not to fry my innards

[Jeff the Hobo]

[QUOTE=loopoo;52488773]I don't get this reference[/QUOTE]

I will share it but with a warning.

For your own sanity, do not read the thread.

[url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1520392[/url]

[hexpunK]

I have genuinely never understood why most of the world has such...simplistic? plugs. The UK plug standard is an incredibly safe thing, three prongs for live, neutral and earth, plastic mouldings around the base of the prongs (as suggested at the end of the video), and a housing designed to afford some grip without needing to pry between the plug and socket.

[editline]20th July 2017[/editline]

Oh yeah, plus inline fuses to break the circuit without tripping the entire fuse box.

[Duckmaster]

[QUOTE=loopoo;52488773]I don't get this reference.

My time in America taught me one thing about Americans: they're fucking insane. Handling plugs was a constant teetering on the edge of being electrocuted. Never figured I'd have so much thrillseeking fulfilled just by plugging shit in and out whilst trying not to fry my innards[/QUOTE]

Listen here mother fucker if you're not living in the constant danger of electrocuting yourself then you're not living at all.

[DokVis]

[QUOTE=duckmaster;52488931]Listen here mother fucker if you're not living in the constant danger of electrocuting yourself then you're not living at all.[/QUOTE]

Nor do you have FREEDOM :terrists:

[Wallyroberto]

[QUOTE=duckmaster;52488931]Listen here mother fucker if you're not living in the constant danger of electrocuting yourself then you're not living at all.[/QUOTE]

This is Canada. Help us Britain ; n ;

[MedicWine]

[QUOTE=loopoo;52488773]I don't get this reference.

My time in America taught me one thing about Americans: they're fucking insane. Handling plugs was a constant teetering on the edge of being electrocuted. Never figured I'd have so much thrillseeking fulfilled just by plugging shit in and out whilst trying not to fry my innards[/QUOTE]

There's also absolutely no safety education about plugs. I remember when my neighbor got his 360 and we rushed inside to plug it in. He shocked himself plugging it in to the power strip and his whole right arm went numb.

There were three of us and we couldn't decide if he was lying or not because we were like, "is it even possible to get shocked like that? Would it kill you? Can you get shocked from an outlet and hurt your arm but not die?" And for the record, that kids full of shit we didn't care about catching him in a lie. It was just the sudden realization that we had NO information to counter-argue with and we definitely plug stuff in every day.

edit: It was a very South Park feeling of knowing the adults in your life should've warned out about this years ago, and the only information you're gunna get it is what you seek out yourself.

[Rellow]

It's very strange having used electronics my whole life and only just now finding out that the contacts of a plug are that dangerous when they aren't all the way inserted.

I also didn't know that American plugs are weird for not having a safety feature to prevent that.

[Ganerumo]

[QUOTE=loopoo;52488485]She was 14, and it wasn't her fault that they had a shitty extension cable that was frayed and exposed. Was just hugely unlucky. Could have happened even if she wasn't in the bath and grabbed it at the wrong place.

Either way, a child dies and your first response is calling them a dumbass?[/QUOTE]

I knew about how dangerous the electricty+water combo was long before I was 14. Everyone I know has known about how dangerous it is long before they turned 14.

Like, it's electricity. You don't fuck with it, you don't put it anywhere near water. It's one of the most basic aspects of home safety.

And here she was handling several cables near a large source of water in which she was submerged. It's not like she was the victim of an unrelated object in her vicinity, she went through the entire process of setting up a shoddy cable setup just to browse her phone while in her bathtub.

Pretty sure 14 years old is [I]way[/I] past the age where your parents teach you not to shove shit into the electrical outlets and long after several classes at school are dedicated to teaching you how electricity will fucking kill you. It's not like she was in a situation where she could not have possibly predicted a bad outcome, she set herself up for a critical failure and a critical failure happened. It's tragic she died, but she's still fucking dumb for having went all this way to create a death trap anyone with two brain cells would recognize as one long before actually going through with it.

[LoneWolf_Recon]

TBF our Plugs are garbage when it comes to safety, especially compared to the UK/Euro plugs:

[video=youtube;UEfP1OKKz_Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEfP1OKKz_Q[/video]

[Spookly]

this was a good reminder to throw out my iphone charger that my cat chewed thru partially

[Reagy]

[QUOTE=LoneWolf_Recon;52489131]TBF our Plugs are garbage when it comes to safety, especially compared to the UK/Euro plugs:

[video=youtube;UEfP1OKKz_Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEfP1OKKz_Q[/video][/QUOTE]

The UK plug is literally the gold standard of plugs, its just a pain that its so bulky, but it works extremely well, hell that bulk actually makes it easier to grip anyway.

I've never really understood how countries can still use 2 pin plugs with this flimsy designs and unshielded pins, its just asking for a shock.

[Snickerdoodle]

I can definitely see why this happened, and can see myself accidentally doing the same thing tbh. My first instinct is to immediately fish my phone out of the water if I drop it in a puddle or something to avoid the most amount of water damage possible.

[Nabile]

[QUOTE=Rellow;52489051]It's very strange having used electronics my whole life and only just now finding out that the contacts of a plug are that dangerous when they aren't all the way inserted.

I also didn't know that American plugs are weird for not having a safety feature to prevent that.[/QUOTE]

When I was around five or something, I shocked myself with a plug, having had a finger inbetween the prongs. That was a great lesson not to ever fuck with those. It hurts quite a bit and you're just scared shitless about how that could have gone extremely wrong.
Now, it shows that getting shocked by alternate current like this isn't 100% deadly when you're a healthy kid. Our wires deliver 230 V, by the way.

It's an extremely unpleasant feeling, wonder how this guy deals with it regularly.

[Nahash]

[QUOTE=LoneWolf_Recon;52489131]TBF our Plugs are garbage when it comes to safety, especially compared to the UK/Euro plugs:

[video=youtube;UEfP1OKKz_Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEfP1OKKz_Q[/video][/QUOTE]

It might be safer but stepping on one that's unplugged hurts like a bitch from what I've been told

[Nitronik]

[QUOTE=Svinnik;52490013]It might be safer but stepping on one that's unplugged hurts like a bitch from what I've been told[/QUOTE]

as if stepping on any other plug would be less discomfortable

[Trekintosh]

I've shocked myself a bunch with US 2-prongers. Don't think I've ever zapped myself with an actual grounded plug, though. 120v isn't nearly as bad as 240.

[Wafflemonstr]

[QUOTE=ReligiousNutjob;52488459]5:50 Jesus Christ.

I had heard of American plugs that did that, but assumed it was some level of exaggeration.
Are all American plugs like that? or did he just get a particularly bad one?[/QUOTE]

Here in Canada they're like that too ya. One time I couldn't get a particularly tough plug out, so I pried it out from underneath without thinking and got a pretty crazy shock once my fingers slipped and hit the connectors.

[lordcrypto]

[QUOTE=NitronikALT;52490023]as if stepping on any other plug would be less discomfortable[/QUOTE]

i think the point being is that they always land prongs up

generally US plugs have the cable and prongs parallel so they'll land with prongs parallel to floor

[mark6789]

[QUOTE=loopoo;52488485]She was 14, and it wasn't her fault that they had a shitty extension cable that was frayed and exposed. Was just hugely unlucky. Could have happened even if she wasn't in the bath and grabbed it at the wrong place.

Either way, a child dies and your first response is calling them a dumbass?[/QUOTE]

I dont know if ill get banned for this but yes they are dumbasses. Seriously, its taught at childhood NOT to mess with water and eletricity.

Heres a quote from the Step-Mother for you

[QUOTE]“She had her phone plugged into the extension cord and it was by the bathtub, and I did it, she did it, we all had sat there in the bathtub with our phones plugged in and played our games,” Felisha Owens, Coe’s stepmother, told CNN affiliate KRQE.[/QUOTE]

Now what do you say to that? Teaching bad habits that got her killed. Its common sense not to do those things.

[Mitsuma]

[QUOTE=LoneWolf_Recon;52489131]TBF our Plugs are garbage when it comes to safety, especially compared to the UK/Euro plugs:

[video=youtube;UEfP1OKKz_Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEfP1OKKz_Q[/video][/QUOTE]

There is a nice potential death trap for UK plugs though.
You have to make sure that the earth pin does not have any of the protective plastic around it like it has on the live and neutral.
It has to be completely bare otherwise it can loose the connection to earth in the socket once its put in completely.

Not exactly a thing about the plug/socket and its actually against regulations, some people might not know that though when they buy cheap stuff from like aliexpress or wherever.

[mark6789]

[QUOTE=LoneWolf_Recon;52489131]TBF our Plugs are garbage when it comes to safety, especially compared to the UK/Euro plugs:

[video=youtube;UEfP1OKKz_Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEfP1OKKz_Q[/video][/QUOTE]

Those are pretty cool and the US has started a new standard that all plugs are temper resistance so accidents wont happen as much

[Dr. Kyuros]

I would [B]never[/B] bring any electronics into or near water (obviously) but something was bound to happen with a frayed extension cord with no protection whatsoever.

She made a really bad call to just yank on the cord like that while in the bathtub submerged, but it sounds like she wasn't aware at all that the cord itself was damaged; awful way to go either way and condolences to her family.

[Breadman]

[QUOTE]“She had her phone plugged into the extension cord and it was by the bathtub, and I did it, she did it, we all had sat there in the bathtub with our phones plugged in and played our games,” Felisha Owens, Coe’s stepmother, told CNN affiliate KRQE.[/QUOTE]
How the fuck did these people go this long without something like this happening sooner?