Diogenes, the Publicly-Wanking Philosopher (Sam O'Nella)
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[Media]https://youtu.be/-A3IlRATIsI[/media]
the proto-facepuncher...
Holy shit what a legend
Aw, he left out the best part of Diogenes' will.
After he made that declaration, the following conversation happened
"Won't you mind animals eating your corpse?"
"Not at all, as long as you provide me with a stick to chase the creatures away!"
"How are you gonna use a stick if you lack awareness?"
"If I lack awareness, then why should I care what happens to me when I am dead?".
Diogenes is a bamf.
Upon hearing Xeno's paradox (which declares that motion is impossible because there is an infinite number of points between two objects), instead of engaging in philosophical argument to disprove Xeno's reasoning Diogenes just walked straight across the room
[QUOTE=Flameon;52480551]Diogenes is a bamf.
Upon hearing Xeno's paradox (which declares that motion is impossible because there is an infinite number of points between two objects), instead of engaging in philosophical argument to disprove Xeno's reasoning Diogenes just walked straight across the room[/QUOTE]
Zeno and Diogenes didn't live at the same time
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;52480557]Zeno and Diogenes didn't live at the same time[/QUOTE]
He didn't say anything about Xeno and Diogenes living contemporaneously.
[QUOTE=Flameon;52480551]Diogenes is a bamf.
Upon hearing Xeno's paradox (which declares that motion is impossible because there is an infinite number of points between two objects), instead of engaging in philosophical argument to disprove Xeno's reasoning Diogenes just walked straight across the room[/QUOTE]
That isn't really as clever as it sounds. Literally everyone who hears about Zeno's paradox knows that it can't be true because motion between two points is possible yet Zeno's logic seemed to hold up, that's why it's called a paradox.
My favourite story of Diogenes is when he was talking to Alexander. Alexander said "If I could choose to be anyone I would be Diogenes." And Diogenes replied "So would I."
[QUOTE=Samiam22;52482132]That isn't really as clever as it sounds. Literally everyone who hears about Zeno's paradox knows that it can't be true because motion between two points is possible yet Zeno's logic seemed to hold up, that's why it's called a paradox.[/QUOTE]
supertasks?
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;52482409]My favourite story of Diogenes is when he was talking to Alexander. Alexander said "If I could choose to be anyone I would be Diogenes." And Diogenes replied "So would I."[/QUOTE]
and then he told him to fuck off because he was in front of the sun
There's soooo much stuff on Diogenes that Sam's unsourced video didn't cover. Like when Diogenes and Alexander met. Alexander at one point asked if Diogenes had heard about him and Diogenes kind of made it seem like he hadn't. Then Diogenes started a conversation that went basically like this:
D: "Are you the Alexander they call a bastard?"
A: "Who did you hear that from?"
D: "Why, your own mothers tounge"
Which Alexander didn't really like, and then Diogenes went: "Yeah. Don't they say your father was a lion or a dragon?"
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There's also the time when a bald man was insulting Diogenes, and Diogenes answered: "VErbal insults are beyond me, so I will therefore compliment your hair for leaving such a foul head"
[QUOTE=Flameon;52480551]Diogenes is a bamf.
Upon hearing Xeno's paradox (which declares that motion is impossible because there is an infinite number of points between two objects), instead of engaging in philosophical argument to disprove Xeno's reasoning Diogenes just walked straight across the room[/QUOTE]
i thought this said "Diogenes just wanked straight across the room", which also seems in character
More information on him that I've seen
[video=youtube;d7aWla3cwNg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7aWla3cwNg[/video]
Diogenes was also captured by pirates sold in Crete. He then berated the people in the audience (the people bying slaves) about how they didn't know how to buy men and gave them a lecture about it. Something about when you buy pots and pans you test them out, but when you buy men you just gloss over them.
He was at the auction also asked where he was from, and ansered that he was from everywhere. And when he was asked his trade, he said he knew how to govern men, which impressed Xeniades who wanted Diogenes to govern his children
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I have it from a book called [I]Diogenes of Sinope - Life and Legend[/I]. Totally worth it too
[QUOTE=gokiyono;52482807]There's soooo much stuff on Diogenes that Sam's unsourced video didn't cover. Like when Diogenes and Alexander met. Alexander at one point asked if Diogenes had heard about him and Diogenes kind of made it seem like he hadn't. Then Diogenes started a conversation that went basically like this:
D: "Are you the Alexander they call a bastard?"
A: "Who did you hear that from?"
D: "Why, your own mothers tounge"
Which Alexander didn't really like, and then Diogenes went: "Yeah. Don't they say your father was a lion or a dragon?"
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There's also the time when a bald man was insulting Diogenes, and Diogenes answered: "VErbal insults are beyond me, so I will therefore compliment your hair for leaving such a foul head"[/QUOTE]
Alexander also came across Diogenes looking through a pile of bones and when he asked him why he was doing that Diogenese replied: "I'm looking for the bones of your father but I can't tell apart from the bones of the slaves" or something along those lines
I think my favourite Diogenes quote was when asked about his favourite wine, he said: "That which others pay"
diogenes is my role model. now he knew what he was talking about.
"The city was under seige. Everyone was busy fortifying the walls - some were carrying stones, others were patching the walls, yet others were building battlements. Diogenes, not wanting to appear idle while everyone around him was working so frantically, diligently rolled his barrel back and forth along the battlements. The city fell."
The lecture in my Hellenistic age class when the professor talked about Diogenes was my favorite lecture to be honest.
Been using the ol Diogenes approach my entire life, and it separates wheat from chaff in very very short order.
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