• Xbox - Project Scorpio Dev Kit
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So glad Kinect is basically dead to them, at least on the gaming applications.
So wait is a Skorpio an Xbox One? Is it backwards compatible?
[QUOTE=IceWarrior98;52317652]So wait is a Skorpio an Xbox One? Is it backwards compatible?[/QUOTE] A Scorpio is an updated Xbox One. It can play all Xbox One games and all its game will (for the near future at least) be regular Xbox One games. The idea is that all future Xbox One iterations should be able to play the old games, rather than having to deal with making consoles backwards compatible with a different system's games.
[QUOTE=IceWarrior98;52317652]So wait is a Skorpio an Xbox One? Is it backwards compatible?[/QUOTE] It is basically what the PS4 Pro is to the PS4.
[QUOTE=IceWarrior98;52317652]So wait is a Skorpio an Xbox One? Is it backwards compatible?[/QUOTE] Upgraded specs with the same OS, ala Windows PC and all the different hardware configurations.
"SSD hard disk drive" [editline]6th June 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=IceWarrior98;52317652]So wait is a Skorpio an Xbox One? Is it backwards compatible?[/QUOTE] Same AMD Jaguar CPU and everything as the regular One, the only real difference is a much beefier GPU (AMD RX 580)
[QUOTE=Kinky Frog;52317779]It is basically what the PS4 Pro is to the PS4.[/QUOTE] No because unlike the ps4 pro this can actually do 4k content including games and video and it actually has 4k blu ray support with HDR support in games and media.
[QUOTE=redBadger;52319221]No because unlike the ps4 pro this can actually do 4k content including games and video and it actually has 4k blu ray support with HDR support in games and media.[/QUOTE] Too bad no one will buy it.
[QUOTE=redBadger;52319221]No because unlike the ps4 pro this can actually do 4k content including games and video and it actually has 4k blu ray support with HDR support in games and media.[/QUOTE] He never claimed that the Scorpio and Pro are the same thing, he said that they're both created around the same concept, which they are. With that said, there are some titles that the Pro plays at a native 4K resolution. And not that it's relevant to your post, but some people are really fired up claiming that the Scorpio's going to be some kind of miracle machine capable of running most titles at 4K and 60FPS, which is never going to happen. Optimization or not, the CPU's still really weak and the RX 580 isn't that powerful either.
[QUOTE=Rixxz2;52319674]He never claimed that the Scorpio and Pro are the same thing, he said that they're both created around the same concept, which they are. With that said, there are some titles that the Pro plays at a native 4K resolution. And not that it's relevant to your post, but some people are really fired up claiming that the Scorpio's going to be some kind of miracle machine capable of running most titles at 4K and 60FPS, which is never going to happen. Optimization or not, the CPU's still really weak and the RX 580 isn't that powerful either.[/QUOTE] It ain't an RX 580, though - it has more CUs and a lower clock. Basically equivalent in performance, though. But yeah, 4K 60FPS won't be a possibility (and 4K 30FPS won't either a lot of the time), but it's still 50% faster than the PS4 Pro which is quite a bit. Don't think it'll make much difference in sales, though.
Resolution and framerate depends entirely on what the game developer wants. If they want their game to run at 4k60, they have to make that choice. There's no arbitrary limit in the hardware of the PS4pro / Xscorpio that keeps the devs from doing that Every time a game runs at 30fps or a sub-1080/4K resolution on a modern console, it's a developer decision.
[QUOTE=Paul-Simon;52322163]Resolution and framerate depends entirely on what the game developer wants. If they want their game to run at 4k60, they have to make that choice. There's no arbitrary limit in the hardware of the PS4pro / Xscorpio that keeps the devs from doing that Every time a game runs at 30fps or a sub-1080/4K resolution on a modern console, it's a developer decision.[/QUOTE] Obviously in the end it's a decision by the developers, but my point about 4K 60FPS is that it won't happen in the vast majority of graphically advanced titles - because of a graphics bottleneck - and in some other titles it won't be attainable because the CPU in Scorpio is still really weak. It's not enough to do 60FPS after all, developers generally want it 60FPS and stable, and I doubt you can do native 4K 60FPS stable on 6TFLOPS GCN without shitting on other quality settings to the point where it makes way more sense to just upscale from 1800p or whatever they're using on PS4 Pro most of the time.
[QUOTE=Paul-Simon;52322163] There's no arbitrary limit in the hardware of the PS4pro / Xscorpio that keeps the devs from doing that Every time a game runs at 30fps or a sub-1080/4K resolution on a modern console, it's a developer decision. [/QUOTE] As opposed to it happening automagically? I don't think anyone's said anything even close to that. The fact of the matter is still that many modern titles will not be able to reach a constant 60FPS on the Scorpio even in 1920x1080 or any resolution for that matter, because the CPU is a massive bottleneck. Obviously lighter titles with less processor overhead will reach it without any problems, but that's not what I'm talking about [editline]7th June 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=GoDong-DK;52320258]It ain't an RX 580, though - it has more CUs and a lower clock. Basically equivalent in performance, though. [/QUOTE] It's about as close as you can come, it's a modified RX 480, the RX 580 is an overclocked 480
[QUOTE=Rixxz2;52322321]The fact of the matter is still that many modern titles will not be able to reach a constant 60FPS on the Scorpio even in 1920x1080 or any resolution for that matter, because the CPU is a massive bottleneck.[/QUOTE] I feel that we could have 5x the GPU / CPU power in consoles, and we'd still see 30FPS games because certain developers prefer and prioritize the visual upgrade over the framerate.
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