So when can we expect a live action Cowboy Bebop movie?
[QUOTE=FreezingStorm;52055512]So when can we expect a live action Cowboy Bebop movie?[/QUOTE]
Please no, I don't want them to ruin it.
[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;52055641]Please no, I don't want them to ruin it.[/QUOTE]
There was gonna be one at one point but I don't think it went anywhere
[url]http://cowboybebop.wikia.com/wiki/Cowboy_Bebop:_Live_Action_Film[/url]
The movie itself was not actually that bad.
He should do some more film reviews.
[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;52055641]Please no, I don't want them to ruin it.[/QUOTE]
I remember years ago hearing that Keanu Reeves was announced to play Spike in a Hollywood adaptation and the weebs came out from the darkest depths of the Internet to screech about it. Maybe that's why that adaptation got cancelled, maybe not. I don't know.
I saw this movie a few days ago, it wasn't that bad at all, I really don't understand the 45% on rotten tomatoes.
[QUOTE=FreezingStorm;52055512]So when can we expect a live action Cowboy Bebop movie?[/QUOTE]
in the least I hope not until benedict retires, sherlock fangirls have been trying to push for him as spike for ages
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both of these pictures are bad
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[sp]"stay moist or dry hard"[/sp] the most incredible thing I've heard from cr1tikal
"you will definitely enjoy your time with this movie" is a weird thing to say considering that most people are panning it
[editline]4th April 2017[/editline]
(because it's really bad)
I plan on seeing it with friends, then watch the original on Netflix and see what the whole fuss is about. Yeah I won't lie when some of the choice words in the trailers had me cringing, but the visuals and the action had me hooked.
I seen it, and it's not a good film. Story is nonsensical and disjointed, character besides 2.5 (Chief only got so much screen time, but very little revealed about him) do not get developed at all, some scenes are entirely pointless, romance and character backstory is forced, action feels empty and clean, and the film suffers from not being able to decide if it wants to be original story or a retelling. The acting is also pretty poor from Major's character, with Chief and Batou being the best characters in the whole film (although I have to admit that Batou's manner of speech kept throwing me off).
Is it pretty? Sure, I guess. But it's so messy behind that pretty facade, it's an endless disappointment.
I don't really get why this movie get so much hate even after it came out. I mean, for what I can tell, most people who hate it are apparently the people who haven't seen it and decide to judge it by its trailers / clips.
I understand that people hate the casting choices, even I have a doubt at first, but hey, Scarlett's performance is actually pretty darn good.
I saw it and it's not bad, not at all and the visual is just amazing. The story is a little weak, though, but definitely not that bad.
Now, for the love of god, if you want to hate this movie, just go see it first ok?
[QUOTE=LuaChobo;52055959]movies fine, it just doesnt do much for anyone who is familiar with the series
that and people who arent familiar with the series are just bitching about motokos casting choice since they have no fucking idea what the character represents
saw it on the 30th (didnt even fuckin know it was out) and i enjoyed it because visually it was stunning and i could see the amount of effort and love they actually put into the film[/QUOTE]
I'm not a huge fan of the original anime - I think it's incredibly cool, but the film itself just isn't that fun to watch, it's a bit of a slog.
But this remake is very far from good. Visually it's stunning, and the practical effects are great. The CGI animation isn't good, the performances are mostly bad, especially scarjo, the plot is very dumbed down and over explained often, all the changes they made are really cliche, it often feels like the movie is in a rush to show you everything and yet leaves you feeling like you experienced very little, the music is generic cyberpunk/synthwave (i love clint but he phoned this one in), the action feels very rehearsed and robotic, and there's no sense of danger or excitement. There's nothing this movie does well outside of visuals.
[editline]4th April 2017[/editline]
It's a vapid mess of half baked ideas, cliches and bad performances
in what way is it enjoyable
is it when every line of dialogue either makes you groan or scratch your head and wonder 'but why?', or when the action is so lifeless you could fall asleep?
[QUOTE=LuaChobo;52055959]movies fine, it just doesnt do much for anyone who is familiar with the series
that and people who arent familiar with the series are just bitching about motokos casting choice since they have no fucking idea what the character represents
saw it on the 30th (didnt even fuckin know it was out) and i enjoyed it because visually it was stunning and i could see the amount of effort and love they actually put into the film[/QUOTE]
What love and effort? The visuals were great but that is where any effort ends. Takeshi Kitano seemed to have the most love in the film, then Pilou Asbaek after him. Scarlet Johansson did her normal routine which is to stand around looking like she has no idea what she is supposed to be doing at any moment and reading her lines off cards just out of shot and giving the performance all the emotion of an ten year old in a school play. Juliette Binoche acted like she would rather have been anywhere but on the set, and Peter Ferdinando was just so flat and boring, but to be fair to him, his character was as basic [sp]of a villain[/sp] as they could possibly make so its not exactly something that prompts effort. [sp]In fact, his motivations for being evil are barely explained.[/sp] The plot is literally a bad remake of [sp]Robocop[/sp] that had to be adapted to cram in characters and scenes from prior Ghost in the Shell titles. Kuze is fucking worthless, he was vaguely interesting at first and by the halfway point he had lost all mystique and they did nothing with him, and I think they wanted him to look like a young Mads Mikkelsen, but they could have just gotten Mads and had someone out there with Takeshi Kitano and Pilou Asbaek that at least made it interesting.
The dialogue was cliched throughout, and even then it still managed to find ways to be bad. The plot was so damn predictable you can figure out the entire plot within the first ten minutes, every big "twist" and "reveal" is blatant. Even the action scenes managed to find ways to be hard to watch thanks to poor camera work and editing.
Seriously, Takeshi Kitano is the best part of the movie, and there are two scenes in the last like 15 minutes he actually seemed to enjoy working on this movie.
[QUOTE=usaokay;52055998]Drinking Game idea: Take a shot every time they say "ghost" or "shell"[/QUOTE]I recommend this because you will be dead before the halfway point and not have to sit through the rest.
[editline]3rd April 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=gufu;52056013](although I have to admit that Batou's manner of speech kept throwing me off).[/QUOTE]At first his accent stood out and was a bit odd, but he honestly did a good enough job that I was alright with it before long and stopped noticing.
[editline]3rd April 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=relinquish;52056014]I don't really get why this movie get so much hate even after it came out. I mean, for what I can tell, most people who hate it are apparently the people who haven't seen it and decide to judge it by its trailers / clips.
I understand that people hate the casting choices, even I have a doubt at first, but hey, Scarlett's performance is actually pretty darn good.
I saw it and it's not bad, not at all and the visual is just amazing. The story is a little weak, though, but definitely not that bad.
Now, for the love of god, if you want to hate this movie, just go see it first ok?[/QUOTE]
Ohh, I saw it. And three days later it still frustrates me.
[QUOTE=LuaChobo;52056081]the rest was good visuals with good choreography[/QUOTE]
Eh. Choreography was dull and too obviously clean. This for example, made the Water Fight scene to be extremely boring: There was very little panic reaction from the gunman, Major just came in and punched him a few times. Afterwards, the gunman's existence was mostly cringeworthy. Hell, the prison scene reminded me of Independence Day at best, and having Kuze kill the dude made the entire point of the scene irrelevant.
[editline]4th April 2017[/editline]
All the fight scenes reminded me of Ultraviolet, and while cool looking, they lacked feeling of ANYTHING behind them.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;52056024]the music is generic cyberpunk/synthwave[/QUOTE]
I don't even remember the music. I don't even remember there actually being music, aside from the few points they brought back the chanting from the prior works.
This thread got me thinking, what if the director make an exactly frame-by-frame adaption and keep every single dialog untouched and with the same visual style? Will people love it? Or will people still hate it because of 'Hollywood adaption sucks' bias?
[QUOTE=relinquish;52056112]This thread got me thinking, what if the director make an exactly frame-by-frame adaption and keep every single dialog untouched and with the same visual style? Will people love it? Or will people still hate it because of 'Hollywood adaption sucks' bias?[/QUOTE]It'd be pointless, but at least it'd be better than what we got. At that point it would depend upon the acting cast.
[QUOTE=relinquish;52056112]This thread got me thinking, what if the director make an exactly frame-by-frame adaption and keep every single dialog untouched and with the same visual style? Will people love it? Or will people still hate it because of 'Hollywood adaption sucks' bias?[/QUOTE]
Then we'd get something like Pacific Rim where it catered to only mecha and kaiju fans while alienating the general audience thinking it was a dorky movie. That's why it bombed in the US while Grown Ups 2 that came out the same month beat PR at the box office. Pacific Rim was saved because the international box office helped it make back the money. It was a ballsy move on Del Toro's part and Hollywood would rather play it safe. Sure we'd love it, but it'd bomb because the people who don't watch anime will feel left out.
[QUOTE=relinquish;52056112]This thread got me thinking, what if the director make an exactly frame-by-frame adaption and keep every single dialog untouched and with the same visual style? Will people love it? Or will people still hate it because of 'Hollywood adaption sucks' bias?[/QUOTE]
That's the thing about remakes and such- what's the point of making the same exact movie? You have to find something new to say, or find a different way to say it, while keeping the core elements of the original.
[QUOTE=Wealth + Taste;52056284]That's the thing about remakes and such- what's the point of making the same exact movie? You have to find something new to say, or find a different way to say it, while keeping the core elements of the original.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't make a straight remake 1:1 myself either, but as a lot of these remakes and reboots show, they really often miss the mark on who they're trying to appeal to or what they have to offer in comparison to the original.
if rusty hates it I guess I HAVE to see it
[QUOTE=Dirty_Ape;52055695]I remember years ago hearing that Keanu Reeves was announced to play Spike in a Hollywood adaptation and the weebs came out from the darkest depths of the Internet to screech about it. Maybe that's why that adaptation got cancelled, maybe not. I don't know.[/QUOTE]
Not gonna lie, a keanu reeves john wick spike spiegel would be pretty awesome
At least it's not as bad as Dragonball: Evolution?
Not saying much though.
[QUOTE=FreezingStorm;52055512]So when can we expect a live action Cowboy Bebop movie?[/QUOTE]Warner Bros still wants to do a live-action Akira despite dilly-dallying about it for years. Current rumours have them courting Jordan Peele to direct, fresh off the success of Get Out.
[QUOTE=relinquish;52056112]This thread got me thinking, what if the director make an exactly frame-by-frame adaption and keep every single dialog untouched and with the same visual style? Will people love it? Or will people still hate it because of 'Hollywood adaption sucks' bias?[/QUOTE]
Like others have said, a 1:1 remake would be pointless or bad (to be honest my feelings on the 1995 were very mixed when I saw it). I think a lot of people are just kind of surprised by the balls out action route, rather than going with something more slow burning. This film seems like the kind of thing you make a Blade Runner-like out of, or an Inception or Looper to be more contemporary. You make this a film built around a few balls out action sequences [sp]like the tank in the sunken city at the end of the original[/sp] but for the most part just focus on strong character performance and engaging world design that pokes at philosophical concepts. From what I've heard and some of what I saw (to be honest I find the holograms mostly jarring and very out of place from the original's grounded Hong Kong inspiration but hey, they were at least visually unique) the film had strong visual elements, everything else mostly doesn't work. It's a shame really, I feel Paramount could have made a film to cash in slightly on the Blade Runner 2049 hype if they played this better.
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