• The Unconquered - Short animation film about Poland during 1939 - 1989 starring Sean Bean
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[hd]https://youtu.be/Q88AkN1hNYM[/hd] PS: Regarding "We broke the Enigma code" part, apparently Poles cracked the code first but Turing finished the job
I expected a polish space program documentary.
Are you sure that was really Sean Bean? I didn't see him die in this one.
is this a modern polish propaganda film?
Polish movie pretending they did something meaningful? I'd give it a watch for the animation, 's bout it.
Cool animation and all, but there are many inconsistencies. Personally I really dislike romanticising history events because it's only leaving a perfect vision of ideals burned into peoples minds and it also spreads false facts, actual historical events never been that simple. Here's a reddit post, detailing it. [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/709acw/poland_the_unconquered/dn1jtjy/[/url]
[QUOTE=Peon Greenjoy;52686682]Cool animation and all, but there are many inconsistencies. Personally I really dislike romanticising history events because it's only leaving a perfect vision of ideals burned into peoples minds and it also spreads false facts, actual historical events never been that simple. Here's a reddit post, detailing it. [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/709acw/poland_the_unconquered/dn1jtjy/[/url][/QUOTE] even that post has some dodgy stuff in it [quote]Also the Katyn massacre was directed at the military cadres and not regular Poles.[/quote] i had relatives who were killed in the Katyn massacre that i would be reluctant to call fascists for obvious reasons, and the USSR destroyed a lot of the documents surrounding it and tried pretty much every trick in the book to deny culpability, blame others, misrepresent the truth, and to downplay their involvement it wasn't just military cadres, it was pretty much the entire head of polish society (including intellectuals, priests, politicians, landowners, journalists, etc), and its even more disturbing when you realised the USSR did this a few years earlier: [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Operation_of_the_NKVD[/url]
Yeah that reddit post, take it with a grain of salt, but there is some right in it, although the guy who wrote it has some bias.
[QUOTE=Melnek;52685725]is this a modern polish propaganda film?[/QUOTE] Pretty much, yeah. A lot of the film had some factually wrong informations in it. They also present it like Poland was the olny country "with the right mind", that allies did not care for them, that there was a "betrayal" by the US and UK. Few examples. The Yalta agreement was a rational move to please the Soviet Union. Poles don't understand that there was no way of liberation of Poland directly after war. UK economy was crumpled, France was just liberated, while the Soviets had millions of troops already stationed in Europe. That would be a suicide that would cost thousands of men, West Germany and possibly Benelus and Austria. Another thing is that "but nobody listened to us" is taken way out of proportion. At that time US was still dealing with aftermath of Black Monday. They has no reason to declare war as they were not interested in European Theatre. Also UK warmly accepted their information on German occupation regions, their army formations and such. There is also a myth that says the Poles were not invited on the victory parade. Firstly, the government in the exile in UK stopped being official as that title went to the puppet government in PPR. By that point you should understand why they were not invited. However the polish generals outside of Poland were invited. They even used the term "związek sowiecki" (in polish version) to describe The Soviet Union. While the etymology behind it is correct, it is used to push their agenda, as they think it should not be called "Związek Radziecki" because they word "Radziecki" was firstly used and propagated during the communist era. That being said they believe by using this form people glorify the Soviet Union, which is not true at all.They call out anyone who uses this term, also calling them non-poles. The aim of this film was not to tell us the story of Poland during WWII, but to propagate the thought of being betrayed by "the rotten west" and show them as untrusted traitors - something that the current government wants them to believe.
Inaccuracies aside, lovely animations, if they made a game with this style, I'll buy it. I think it could be fun with a spy themed game
[QUOTE=helifreak;52685532]Are you sure that was really Sean Bean? I didn't see him die in this one.[/QUOTE] You should give Sharpes Rifles a watch.
[QUOTE=Mifil;52686828]Pretty much, yeah. A lot of the film had some factually wrong informations in it. They also present it like Poland was the olny country "with the right mind", that allies did not care for them, that there was a "betrayal" by the US and UK. Few examples. The Yalta agreement was a rational move to please the Soviet Union. Poles don't understand that there was no way of liberation of Poland directly after war. UK economy was crumpled, France was just liberated, while the Soviets had millions of troops already stationed in Europe. That would be a suicide that would cost thousands of men, West Germany and possibly Benelus and Austria. Another thing is that "but nobody listened to us" is taken way out of proportion. At that time US was still dealing with aftermath of Black Monday. They has no reason to declare war as they were not interested in European Theatre. Also UK warmly accepted their information on German occupation regions, their army formations and such. There is also a myth that says the Poles were not invited on the victory parade. Firstly, the government in the exile in UK stopped being official as that title went to the puppet government in PPR. By that point you should understand why they were not invited. However the polish generals outside of Poland were invited. They even used the term "związek sowiecki" (in polish version) to describe The Soviet Union. While the etymology behind it is correct, it is used to push their agenda, as they think it should not be called "Związek Radziecki" because they word "Radziecki" was firstly used and propagated during the communist era. That being said they believe by using this form people glorify the Soviet Union, which is not true at all.They call out anyone who uses this term, also calling them non-poles. The aim of this film was not to tell us the story of Poland during WWII, but to propagate the thought of being betrayed by "the rotten west" and show them as untrusted traitors - something that the current government wants them to believe.[/QUOTE] Sorry to break your bubble but all shown in this film is 100% true. Poland was betrayed by Allies. Sold to USSR. That is a fact. If it was possible to do other way is another problem, but the fact stays. Whats more UK took part of Polish gold deposited there as repayment for Polish soldiers using UK weapons.... Pity they didn't say they will do it before Polish fighters fought to defend UK. "but nobody listened to us" is a truth as well. The info get through and many partisans risked their lifes so it was possible. Noone cared - that is a fact. The Polish were not invited to Victory Parade. How the hell can you even say that they were. Were there Polish pilots on the march or Polish soldiers who took Monte Cassino or others. Staop damn spreading lies ok? The aim of this very shortened version of ww2 history is tell 100 % truth to fight propaganda that is called history in the west. [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("gimmick" - Orkel))[/highlight]
Gimmick account?
Shame such raw talent was wasted on what's basically propaganda.
[QUOTE=Helldarr;52690647]Sorry to break your bubble but all shown in this film is 100% true. Poland was betrayed by Allies. Sold to USSR. That is a fact. If it was possible to do other way is another problem, but the fact stays.[/quote] Of course, the fact is that Poland wasn't an independent state right after the war is true. What you're ommiting is the context of the entire situation, and instead assume that every single person in the west simply hated the polishfolk. The context is in the post you quoted: [quote=Mifil;38112391]Poles don't understand that there was no way of liberation of Poland directly after war. UK economy was crumpled, France was just liberated, while the Soviets had millions of troops already stationed in Europe. That would be a suicide that would cost thousands of men, West Germany and possibly Benelus and Austria.[/quote] [quote=Helldarr;52690647] Whats more UK took part of Polish gold deposited there as repayment for Polish soldiers using UK weapons.... Pity they didn't say they will do it before Polish fighters fought to defend UK.[/quote] Oh yes, the romanian bridgehead. The topic is genuinely movie-worthy, with so much effort based on transporting Polish gold from one place to another. [url]https://www.nbp.pl/en/publikacje/bankoteka/Bankoteka_4_September_2014_internet.pdf[/url] I recommend pages 22 and 30. And then, lets jump to your main point - billing the Polish soldiers. You can figure out the fate of the gold right here, in this very article [url]http://isap.sejm.gov.pl/DetailsServlet?id=WDU19470630365[/url] basically everything was settled and nothing was paid. [quote=Helldarr;52690647] "but nobody listened to us" is a truth as well. The info get through and many partisans risked their lifes so it was possible. Noone cared - that is a fact.[/quote] The issue that "no one cared" is an interesting one. The documents about the Holocaust provided by the Poles were widespread in the media in the West, but the issue was that no military action was taken. After very quick and non-scientific research, I recognized that the subject is still under a debate on what could possibly be done in that time - Strategic bombardment of the camps? Somehow invading from the middle of the continent? But in the end, the duty to save the imprisoned populace was left to partisans in their countries - in every place conquered by the Nazi Germany, not just Poland. The Allies' military focused mostly on defeating the third reich. The article regarding the Holocaust is in the following link: [url]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/33/The_Mass_Extermination_of_Jews_in_German_Occupied.pdf[/url] . It was released at the end of 1942, where Allies were making progress in North Africa, Germans were having issues at the russian front, and the Japanese were close to losing their islands. Things were definitely advancing, but it wasn't really time to get comfy and focus everywhere else. There are definitely articles written about how nothing could've been done and how a lot could've been done, and I don't think either of us has enough materials and knowledge to make an absolute opinion regarding decisions taken by leaders 70 years ago. [quote=Helldarr;52690647] The Polish were not invited to Victory Parade. How the hell can you even say that they were. Were there Polish pilots on the march or Polish soldiers who took Monte Cassino or others. Staop damn spreading lies ok? [/quote] [del]He didn't say any of this. He explictly said that the Polish were invited, not that they attended.[/del](Sorry, worded that a bit wrong. The Polish were invited to the parade. The did not attend.) As a matter of fact, the issue that no Polish soldiers took part was a big controversy at the time - not an unanimous decisions because the west hates everything that's white and red. The British goverment changed its relations from the goverment in-exile to the goverment not-in-exile, which was a communist puppet. A lot of people in the West were against the idea - even such folk as Winston Churchill. They later sent invitations that weren't accepted as they did not invite all of the branches of the Polish military. A terrible decision that didn't go through unchallenged. I reckon the wikipedia article states it in a more clear manner than my own ramblings [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Victory_Celebrations_of_1946#Political_controversy[/url] [quote=Helldarr;52690647]The aim of this very shortened version of ww2 history is tell 100 % truth to fight propaganda that is called history in the west.[/QUOTE] Well, you're half correct. IPNs video is perfectly aligned to our current gov's views, which is to bash the West for a terrible war that affected the entire world. It's sad that so many years later, while living in literally the best part of the entire world thanks to cooperation of nations that did nothing but war and conquest for thousands of years on this tiny continent of ours, we still have to be aggressive towards eachother, seek reperations, undermine the relationships. Nazi Germany has done a lot of terrible things, and no matter what words I use it's still going to be an understatement, but the Germany of today has taken a note and worked to support itself and countries around it to achieve a lot more than any world war ever could. I am really glad that you did post here, even if your post was already considered a low-effort bait. I hope we can discuss the video and its issues in a civilized, non-circlejerkish manner
Oh fuck off. This shit happens every time. Create something great but put some STINKING SHIT in it corrupting the entire thing. It would have been perfect if not those like 5 lines of text but no, lets try to gain some propaganda points on the sweat and blood of Polish heroes. Get fucked.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;52690837]Oh fuck off. This shit happens every time. Create something great but put some STINKING SHIT in it corrupting the entire thing. It would have been perfect if not those like 5 lines of text but no, lets try to gain some propaganda points on the sweat and blood of Polish heroes. Get fucked.[/QUOTE] I might be assuming too much, but I think mixing up real acts of heroism with garbage is intentional. You can't attack the video without having other folk assume that you also want to smear stuff we should be genuinely proud of. The main subject of the video, as I said in my post, is way too perfectly aligned with our current goverment tactics of attacking the west all the time.
And then nobody talks about how awesome these people were and how horrible it was for them and all the discussion is about the questionable bits. I hate it. Merge sorry
[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;52690716]Shame such raw talent was wasted on what's basically propaganda.[/QUOTE] It's not like the amount of talent in the world is limited. If you want to watch a really, really nice video of the polish history, I recommend this animation. It's 7 years old aaa [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stEuQamTLXw[/media]
[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;52690716]Shame such raw talent was wasted on what's basically propaganda.[/QUOTE] There are some incredible propaganda videos out there. [video=youtube;cHfBIO-alTI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHfBIO-alTI[/video] It's like a god damn Call of Duty cutscene
[QUOTE=Nexosz;52690815]Of course, the fact is that Poland wasn't an independent state right after the war is true. What you're ommiting is the context of the entire situation, and instead assume that every single person in the west simply hated the polishfolk. [/QUOTE] I did not assume anything. I know what the situation was . Still Poland was sold to USSR for the well being of the west. [QUOTE=Nexosz;52690815] basically everything was settled and nothing was paid.[/QUOTE] I dare to nat agree. So does Discovery - History channel [url]http://www.iap.pl/?id=wiadomosci&nrwiad=390284[/url] [url]http://korwin-mikke.pl/blog/wpis/kto_placil_za_benzyne_dla_dywizjonu_303_/322[/url] [url]http://www.filmydokumentalne.eu/bitwy-zolnierza-polskiego-bitwa-o-anglie/[/url] [QUOTE=Nexosz;52690815] They later sent invitations that weren't accepted as they did not invite all of the branches of the Polish military. A terrible decision that didn't go through unchallenged. I reckon the wikipedia article states it in a more clear manner than my own ramblings [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Victory_Celebrations_of_1946#Political_controversy[/url][/QUOTE] So they basicly invited only pilots of division 303 from all soldiers that has fought on all fronts but Japan and that AFTER controversy started. Even Winston Churchil said "Wyrażam głęboki żal że żaden z oddziałów polskich, które walczyły u naszego boku w tylu bitwach i które przelały swoją krew dla wspólnej sprawy, nie zostały dopuszczone do udziału w Paradzie Zwycięstwa. Będziemy w tym dniu myśleli o tym wojsku. Nigdy nie zapomnimy o ich dzielności ani o ich bojowych wyczynach, które związane są z naszą własną sławą pod Tobrukiem, Cassino i Arnhem." [url]https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Londy%C5%84ska_Parada_Zwyci%C4%99stwa_z_1946#cite_note-Parada_w_Londynie-1 [/url] What is funny that statment is nowhere to be found in English version of the same wikipedia article. Funny isn't it. Alliants didn't want to make USSR angry.... Wow that is so damn brave... [QUOTE=Nexosz;52690815] Well, you're half correct. IPNs video is perfectly aligned to our current gov's views, which is to bash the West for a terrible war that affected the entire world. It's sad that so many years later, while living in literally the best part of the entire world thanks to cooperation of nations that did nothing but war and conquest for thousands of years on this tiny continent of ours, we still have to be aggressive towards eachother, seek reperations, undermine the relationships. Nazi Germany has done a lot of terrible things, and no matter what words I use it's still going to be an understatement, but the Germany of today has taken a note and worked to support itself and countries around it to achieve a lot more than any world war ever could. [/QUOTE] You mean that we finally have goverment that is from political party that didn't recieve any money from Germany like the last one did? And goverment that actualy shows history how it was not how i would be nice for others to be seen? Damn I just wander how brainwased you must be (or how well paid) that as a Polish you prefer to spread half truths ad lies about your own country only so that you can be seen as a "progresive" and "inteligent".... Sad. Do you really think that our Allies did all perfect? Like bombing Germany in 1939 with ... leaflets..... or like forgetting about Polish completly just after war ended... You attack reparations but somehow you don't see how Poland is being attacked on all fronts just because we don't want to share a fate of Londonistan or Calphate of Sweden. Germans are behind all of it . Anyone with half a brain knows it. So basicly you state that we mustn defend ourselfes but EU /Germany can bully us as they wish, we must obey but Germans can build Northstream 2... Well maybe it is time to move to some more progresive country.... [QUOTE=Nexosz;52690815] I am really glad that you did post here, even if your post was already considered a low-effort bait. I hope we can discuss the video and its issues in a civilized, non-circlejerkish manner[/QUOTE] Low effort bait - yeah - leftiest way to discuss - label all you not agree with... [editline]17th September 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Nexosz;52690841]I might be assuming too much, but I think mixing up real acts of heroism with garbage is intentional. You can't attack the video without having other folk assume that you also want to smear stuff we should be genuinely proud of. The main subject of the video, as I said in my post, is way too perfectly aligned with our current goverment tactics of attacking the west all the time.[/QUOTE] Don't make me laugh. Who is being attacked there again... Would you like some links from German /EU polticians speaking about Poland? Oh you know it well, your paryt begged those politicians to make those statments.... pathetic.
[QUOTE=Nexosz;52690896]It's not like the amount of talent in the world is limited. If you want to watch a really, really nice video of the polish history, I recommend this animation. It's 7 years old aaa [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stEuQamTLXw[/media][/QUOTE] wanted to click artistic ... anyway that animation was really well done and it's still nice today
[QUOTE=Peon Greenjoy;52686682]Cool animation and all, but there are many inconsistencies. Personally I really dislike romanticising history events because it's only leaving a perfect vision of ideals burned into peoples minds and it also spreads false facts, actual historical events never been that simple. Here's a reddit post, detailing it. [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/709acw/poland_the_unconquered/dn1jtjy/[/url][/QUOTE] Excuse me. How you verified all what this guy wrote? Can you tell me something about it? My verification shows that this guy is a plain ignorant fool who bases on knowledge from propaganda textbooks written by the communists. It is so embrassing when i must disscuss about history with people from the West... All the knowledge which you put into your heads is the so-called "history of winners." Full of manipulation, silenced facts and myths clean everything that could jeopardize the "great fight against Nazism" of the Western World. This is so fucking pathetic.
[QUOTE=eksnajn;52691333]Excuse me. How you verified all what this guy wrote? Can you tell me something about it? My verification shows that this guy is a plain ignorant fool who bases on knowledge from propaganda textbooks written by the communists. It is so embrassing when i must disscuss about history with people from the West... All the knowledge which you put into your heads is the so-called "history of winners." Full of manipulation, silenced facts and myths clean everything that could jeopardize the "great fight against Nazism" of the Western World. This is so fucking pathetic.[/QUOTE] to tylko twoim zdaniem, koleś i've read a lot of polish history (and my knowledge isn't perfect) and to say the least not everything you've been saying has been entirely truthful either
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;52691361]to tylko twoim zdaniem, koleś i've read a lot of polish history (and my knowledge isn't perfect) and to say the least not everything you've been saying has been entirely truthful either[/QUOTE] I would like to know what your statement is, because it is difficult to see any valuable content in it. Which part of my comment is not true?
[QUOTE=Helldarr;52691247]I did not assume anything. I know what the situation was . Still Poland was sold to USSR for the well being of the west.[/QUOTE] For the well being of the entire continent, but I'm glad we're getting slowly there. Or do you still assume that a bunch of completely ruined countries could turn against another country that heavily contributed in removing the third reich, in addition to being a post-war powerhouse? [QUOTE=Helldarr;52691247] I dare to nat agree. So does Discovery - History channel [url]http://www.iap.pl/?id=wiadomosci&nrwiad=390284[/url] [url]http://korwin-mikke.pl/blog/wpis/kto_placil_za_benzyne_dla_dywizjonu_303_/322[/url] [url]http://www.filmydokumentalne.eu/bitwy-zolnierza-polskiego-bitwa-o-anglie/[/url] [/QUOTE] I'm not sure why you linked the first two links if they simply talk about the video itself. Could you point me to the part of the video that discusses your point? I'd happily give it a watch but I don't think I can invest this much time into it. [QUOTE=Helldarr;52691247] So they basicly invited only pilots of division 303 from all soldiers that has fought on all fronts but Japan and that AFTER controversy started. Even Winston Churchil said "Wyrażam głęboki żal że żaden z oddziałów polskich, które walczyły u naszego boku w tylu bitwach i które przelały swoją krew dla wspólnej sprawy, nie zostały dopuszczone do udziału w Paradzie Zwycięstwa. Będziemy w tym dniu myśleli o tym wojsku. Nigdy nie zapomnimy o ich dzielności ani o ich bojowych wyczynach, które związane są z naszą własną sławą pod Tobrukiem, Cassino i Arnhem." [url]https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Londy%C5%84ska_Parada_Zwyci%C4%99stwa_z_1946#cite_note-Parada_w_Londynie-1 [/url] What is funny that statment is nowhere to be found in English version of the same wikipedia article. Funny isn't it. Alliants didn't want to make USSR angry.... Wow that is so damn brave... [/quote] They also invited the Navy branch and sent invitations to various generals. In addition, I don't understand your point about the lack of the quote in the english version of the article. Not only is the part about the controversy longer and more detailed, it also has more references to back it up and hey wait what is this [quote=reference 22] Laurence Rees, World War II Behind Closed Doors, BBC Books, 2009, p.391: "Winston Churchill, now leader of the opposition, said in the House of Commons on 5 June, just three days before the Victory Parade, that he 'deeply' regretted that 'none of the Polish troops, and I must say this, who fought with us on a score of battlefields, who poured out their blood in the common cause, are not to be allowed to march in the Victory Parade... The fate of Poland seems to be unending tragedy and we who went to war all ill-prepared on her behalf watch with sorrow the strange outcome of our endeavours."[/quote] Well, it's not exactly the quote you mentioned, but I don't think this one is in any way worse? I am glad that you have realized the level of controversy that the Allies went through with that decision. Again, it was challenged by a lot of important figures, and well criticized and documented. Again, you're completely ignoring the context of the post-war Europe and the soviet influence. [QUOTE=Helldarr;52691247] You mean that we finally have goverment that is from political party that didn't recieve any money from Germany like the last one did?[/quote] You mean the investments from the european union? I don't think the money stopped flowing in. [QUOTE=Helldarr;52691247]Do you really think that our Allies did all perfect?[/quote] When did I ever say this? But let me go straight to a whataboutism - Do you think that the Polish did everything perfectly? Are you forgetting that it was a world war that to this day defines our time? No one was perfect, and not everyone was a monster. But I don't think we're here to talk about such general topics of good and evil in a war. [QUOTE=Helldarr;52691247]Like bombing Germany in 1939 with ... leaflets...[/quote] Now I'm genuinely unsure. Are you saying that there wasn't enough effort in bombing? The further the war progressed, the more bombing went out of control, removing entire german cities. Is this not enough for you? [QUOTE=Helldarr;52691247] or like forgetting about Polish completly just after war ended...[/quote] Please look at the first point, thank you [QUOTE=Helldarr;52691247]You attack reparations but somehow you don't see how Poland is being attacked on all fronts just because we don't want to share a fate of Londonistan or Calphate of Sweden.[/quote] I'm unsure on how both of these points connect. While Poland wasn't an independent state after the war, neither was Germany. They can pull the same reasons we have to get back western parts of poland (That papa stalin got us, before taking every single valuable thing from these lands to Russia. Maybe we should look at them instead?), ostpreussen and whatnot. [QUOTE=Helldarr;52691247]Germans are behind all of it . Anyone with half a brain knows it. So basicly you state that we mustn defend ourselfes but EU /Germany can bully us as they wish, we must obey but Germans can build Northstream 2... Well maybe it is time to move to some more progresive country....[/quote] Ah, you got me here. I am fully with the European Union when it comes with sanctions against, I've got no clue, our ability to undermine our constitution and democracy. I stand by these values, as a patriotic pole, and I will not respect a goverment whose main goals are to [url=http://carnegieeurope.eu/strategiceurope/71568]pull us away from democracy.[/url] I've got no clue just how exactly You imagine existence within an union. That it's our way or no way? Do you really don't comprehend the idea of sharing the fruits of cooperation but also responsibilities? Germany was one of the countries that always wanted us in the EU, that invested in us the most, and we're still net positive in the entire "ordeal". [QUOTE=Helldarr;52691247] Low effort bait - yeah - leftiest way to discuss - label all you not agree with... [/quote] Sadly, here I will not be responding to You anymore, in regards to this part of Your post. I'd like to point out that this is the situation in the Polish political scene. Anyone who disagrees with the goverment in any way or form is considered a leftist, and in some cases just a commie. The only things this response lacked is calling me a self-hating pole and not a true patriot. The situation here really is this dire, and it's not really going to change anytime soon. Can you really blame me for putting the rest of my hope in EU to influence us in any way to not literally just shoot ourselves in the head, while complaining about the left and reaping rewards from 500+ program that literally gives you money for existing? I'll be honest, that's a lefties wet dream, the 500+ gimmick. [QUOTE=Dwarden;52691266]wanted to click artistic ... anyway that animation was really well done and it's still nice today[/QUOTE] It was made by Baginski, the dude who also made cutscenes for the witcher games. He's our national treasure
I can see why a lot of Poles feel the way they do for getting left behind to the USSR, especially after fighting a pretty bloody war some decades prior against the USSR to keep their stake after getting shit on by three other Empires (if I remember correctly). It sucks ass what the Communists did during the occupation after WW2 as well, nothing can excuse the shit they've done. I'll be giving this a watch though, there is no doubt that Poland contributed a lot to defeating the 3rd Reich at least.
It just got taken down by a copyright strike, nationalists in poland are crying about youtube "censoring" them when it's pretty obvious it's just some dude trolling
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