He is right BUT showing false stuff obviously generates a ton of hype and revenue a la watchdogs.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;45256096]He is right BUT showing false stuff obviously generates a ton of hype and revenue a la watchdogs.[/QUOTE] yes but maybe the same people fooled won't be fooled again by it. we can only hope
[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;45256163]yes but maybe the same people fooled won't be fooled again by it. we can only hope[/QUOTE]
Yeah they will. Jims opinion is that of the video game enthusiast point of view. Many of the over budget trailers at E3 are to appeal to a more casual audience. Who see the amazing trailers, get hyped, and buy the game, not really caring or remembering to much of the trailer.We never hear from these people since they dont really care too much about the product,many may not even finish the game before just getting bored. Secondly Even if it was garbage, Ubisoft claims Watchdogs was a very successful ip.This only reinforces the industry stranded of putting priority on first immperisons, rather than making a new game
[QUOTE=Another Hater;45256228]Yeah they will. Jims opinion is that of the video game enthusiast point of view. Many of the over budget trailers at E3 are to appeal to a more casual audience. Who see the amazing trailers, get hyped, and buy the game, not really caring or remembering to much of the trailer.We never hear from these people since they dont really care too much about the product,many may not even finish the game before just getting bored. Secondly Even if it was garbage, Ubisoft claims Watchdogs was a very successful ip.This only reinforces the industry stranded of putting priority on first immperisons, rather than making a new game[/QUOTE] Fuck forgot about Casual Gamers. anyways as far as 3rd parties go EA was the fucking worst there was no fucking Mass Effect 4 Trailer just a bunch of guy's talking with Mass Effect Music in the background.
[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;45256294]Fuck forgot about Casual Gamers. anyways as far as 3rd parties go EA was the fucking worst there was no fucking Mass Effect 4 Trailer just a bunch of guy's talking with Mass Effect Music in the background.[/QUOTE]
Same goes for that new star wars game
[QUOTE=Adarrek;45257006]Same goes for that new star wars game[/QUOTE]
yea both where a fucking joke.
I probably approached this years e3 with way more skepticism than I have any other. Especially ubisoft's conference who I don't particularly trust anymore. I do miss the days when I could at least somewhat trust gameplay I watched in e3 trailers, y'know, when there actually is gameplay these days. But now it just feels like there's zero integrity in the presentations, and I can't even trust anything I see unless it's from a developer I know can live up to the expectations they set like CD Projekt Red. Even No Man's Sky, which most people agree was one of the major highlights of e3 (not including like, the entire Nintendo conference) puts kind of a bad taste in my mouth, because even though the ps4 is a decently powerful system I seriously doubt it can handle an entire procedurally generated universe with no loading screens or instances. Especially not this early in the generation when most developers don't really know how to optimize well for the consoles without sacrificing either how the game runs or visual fidelity. I just miss the feeling of actually being able to get excited for games before they came out, instead of getting excited after seeing whether or not the developers lied to me after release.
[quote]because even though the ps4 is a decently powerful system I seriously doubt it can handle an entire procedurally generated universe with no loading screens or instances.[/quote]
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_2]That depends entirely on how good at code the developers making the game are.[/url] This game was made way back in 1993 and had no loading screens (there was some instancing, e.g. ships and asteroids I believe) despite presenting an entire galaxy to explore - instead it handled loading when you traveled by generating or destroying things relative to the distance from your ship. Everything packed down to a simple string of numbers and characters, guaranteeing perfect regeneration every time they were procedurally built again.
So yeah I dunno if they're capable either -- but I do certainly believe it's possible.
People keep acting like this is new, but companies always lie to you for sales. Remember Half-Life 2's E3 demos? How much of that actually made the final game? Even indies manipulate, cheat and lie to you via kickstarter and early access scams more often than not. No trust should be placed in anyone involved in this industry.
The video game industry might just be better off dead at this point. A market crash that takes everything with it, publishers, indies and all. Let em all die. The real, timeless classics will continue to stand without being drowned in the shit made today that gets churned out and forgotten within two years.
[QUOTE=LurkyLurker;45265609]People keep acting like this is new, but companies always lie to you for sales. Remember Half-Life 2's E3 demos? How much of that actually made the final game? Even indies manipulate, cheat and lie to you via kickstarter and early access scams more often than not. No trust should be placed in anyone involved in this industry.
The video game industry might just be better off dead at this point. A market crash that takes everything with it, publishers, indies and all. Let em all die. The real, timeless classics will continue to stand without being drowned in the shit made today that gets churned out and forgotten within two years.[/QUOTE]
Dude a cut npc isn't much of a fuss. In hl2's E3 they showed a game that had promise and it was graphically groundbreaking but even after release the game was even better and prettier. Its just lots of concept changes instead of having shitty graphics. Wheres the passion you guys? If people want to do something they do it, this is how we got to this generation of gaming but sadly people DON'T feel like making a new game with totally different graphical changes like we saw back in the day. It's all about money. I am 20 and I remember that the E3s were about alphas and betas that actually looked bad but people could see the graphical changes or physics being implemented into the games and it's actually the fact that people who went to see the damn games were really experienced , back in the day you could play ps1 and lots of PC games but if you played half-life 1 you were hardcore with a good rig and shit and cared about the whole gaming scene and you couldn't wait to see whats new and like we all know , when you love something you look into it and learn about it.In general the audience was well educated. Now the developers know that a lot of people are getting into gaming and they know how to target a large group of people with E3.
[QUOTE=LurkyLurker;45265609]People keep acting like this is new, but companies always lie to you for sales. Remember Half-Life 2's E3 demos? How much of that actually made the final game? Even indies manipulate, cheat and lie to you via kickstarter and early access scams more often than not. No trust should be placed in anyone involved in this industry.
The video game industry might just be better off dead at this point. A market crash that takes everything with it, publishers, indies and all. Let em all die. The real, timeless classics will continue to stand without being drowned in the shit made today that gets churned out and forgotten within two years.[/QUOTE]
There's a big difference between a few things that aren't exactly the same in the released game and outright lying with a trailer or 'gameplay' that the final game isn't close to, and was never going to be. With HL2 they decided the things they had shown could be done better or didn't fit in properly, whereas with games like Watch Dogs and Aliens: Colonial marines, that wasn't the case at all; they were just lies in the first place.
[QUOTE=Sub-Zero;45266717]Dude a cut npc isn't much of a fuss.[/QUOTE]
True, but that's far from the only thing that didn't make the final product. Being able to barricade doors, better AI (that was found to be pre-scripted in the demos), weapons, level features, etc. Does anyone remember how Valve didn't even say HL2 was going to miss its planned release date until literally a week before said date? They may have still released a good product unlike Ubisoft and Gearbox, but I don't think that means they should be let off for doing what is still the same thing: failing to deliver on what was originally shown.
game's had souls at E3 something like HL2 for sure but no these games are so empty.
[QUOTE=LurkyLurker;45265609]People keep acting like this is new, but companies always lie to you for sales. Remember Half-Life 2's E3 demos? How much of that actually made the final game? Even indies manipulate, cheat and lie to you via kickstarter and early access scams more often than not. No trust should be placed in anyone involved in this industry.
The video game industry might just be better off dead at this point. A market crash that takes everything with it, publishers, indies and all. Let em all die. The real, timeless classics will continue to stand without being drowned in the shit made today that gets churned out and forgotten within two years.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LurkyLurker;44934850]doesn't matter cause its probably just some shill posing as a developer to make people blame execs only for d bad game
dev hugboxing needs to stop right now they're lazy, incompetent and just as much to blame as to why watch_dogs=dog_shit[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LurkyLurker;45133135]Or maybe, just [I]maybe[/I], gamers are universally a vile bunch who wallow in the maggot-ridden vomit-speckled [B]dogshit[/B] that 99.9% of this medium consists of? Maybe they need to be called out and shamed for it?
The more I think about it, the more I think that Ebert and Thompson might have had a good point about this medium having no artistic merit whatsoever. Film proved its artistic worth within a decade or two of its creation. I can't say the same for video games thanks to them being made by and for manchildren.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LurkyLurker;45066213]Mass Effect was complete dogshit from day one and I want all traces of it burned out of existence. Dead, buried, forgotten.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LurkyLurker;44954397]i wanna see a comparison between Dog_Shit and Super Mario Brothers
the original nes version
cause it looks objectively better[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LurkyLurker;44404704]hahaha you think Kojima isn't an legitimately awful human being that should be tried as a warcriminal himself.
You want to start giving this medium some dignity? Start by forcing hacks like Kojima out of it. Stop buying their games. [B]Stop being horrible human beings by not enjoying exploitative trash[/B]. It's not hard.[/QUOTE]
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